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Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Aaron,

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that this is done intentionally. I'm saying that if it is, then we should not be surprised if we know ahead of time.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Aaron,

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that this is done intentionally. I'm saying that if it is, then we should not be surprised if we know ahead of time.

Well I am sorry if we have our wires crossed, but it seemed like you were insinuating RM may intentionally miss the mark on his sculpts.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

As I said in a much earlier post, I do see DeNiro in the sculpt, below the eyes. With the glasses on, he looks really good. That means the eyes are keeping the sculpt from really nailing it.
:goodpost:

Someone mentioned to me privately in an earlier conversation that the eyes are no biggy because they will be covered with the glasses posed with the guns out......I should have reminded them, When or where in the film was Mohawk Travis wearing the sunglasses and shooting at the sametime!!:slap :lol. Travis doesnt wear his sunglasses at night.

The eyes/eyelids need work.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

:goodpost:

Someone mentioned to me privately in an earlier conversation that the eyes are no biggy because they will be covered with the glasses posed with the guns out......I should have reminded them, When or where in the film was Mohawk Travis wearing the sunglasses and shooting at the sametime!!:slap :lol. Travis doesnt wear his sunglasses at night.

The eyes/eyelids need work.

Agreed:lecture
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

So again I ask. What about the fellas that like it as it is? There seems to be as many that like it the way it is as dislike it. Do we have a voice? Why must it be reworked?
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

And this on Instagram

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It's just the eyes that throw it off for me. Reminds me of Happy, Happy, Happy

Or those eyes need a smirk, or that smile needs angrier eyes. I feel the sculpt is about to start laughing.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

It's a numb expression/look. It is what a lot of you rallied for :slap
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Think a lot of us need to chill out because for the most part it seems like most people share the same thoughts just word it differently, and people are to worked up trying to argue over nothing.

1. RM has never used "its my style" as an excuse; so if anything, that's just what some of us are saying.
2. RM is not GOD, his interpretation of an actor is not going to please everyone
3. Everyone collects for different reasons, but likeliness is usually a big component (amongst many other things, exclusiveness, price, overall quality, artist, style - yes style).
4. Everyone SHOULD feel free to critique, its their right. Just don't troll.
5. RM should not feel overly offended to critique, because its just opinions
6. RM can't please everyone and doesn't have to please anyone. Although, if he pleases more people, he makes more money. Its his decision ultimately.
7. The ultimatum of "if you don't like it don't buy it" holds. But doesn't mean if you don't buy it you can't critique it. At the same time, if you like it and want it, you shouldn't need to explain it.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I have to disagree on multiple accounts. One, the eyes as they are painted now do not resemble De Niro's in that pic; they are way more stylized. They are like dollish or anime or doe-ish. Two... you did have more to complain about aside from the lack of accessories in the PF thread. You've made several posts like "not really seeing Jackson in there at all :(" and things along those lines.

Qbomb took the thoughts right outta my head and posted it before I got a chance to. It boils down to inconsistency. You're reference about the Dam Toys figs is not even in the same ball park here. People who collect stuff like that and 3A know what it's all about and are collecting because they like that stylized interpretation. People collect SERANG for the same reasons. With lines like that you know what to expect release after release after release. The inconsistency here leaves people very confused.

Some say that it's an intentional style. I personally disagree. Every sculptor and painter leaves their signature or fingerprint on their work but I feel that it's nearly completely involuntary. If it's intentional, how do you rationalize his track record? Let's leave his early work aside and just chalk that up to him honing his skills. Let's say after year 2 he got zoned in.... and he's been mixing "stylized" sculpts with one's with truer likeness ever since. How do you make sense out of that?

Wake's (and some others here) first reaction about likeness says everything about todays 1/6 collecting mentality. Unless you're into the 3A type thing, the large majority in the hobby is looking for realism and likeness in a sculpt. The general consensus of RM's sculpts seem to be the ones with the least style are the most popular. Why is that?

When Rainman shows you that he can pull off sculpts like Dude, Doc, Bill, Plainview, Anton and that BWE custom (hell, even Stansfield makes that cut IMO) you're led to believe that he can achieve true likeness. When he sprinkles in other releases in random order that didn't ring the bell the same way the aforementioned sculpts did.... then that's where the blurred lines of how to chalk it all up come into play.

If he always produced something stylized like Serang and it was clear-cut then I guarantee you that 80% of the people that frequent his threads and chase his releases wouldn't be around anymore. I know that I for one wouldn't. I'd pop in as I do in the Serang threads, admire the work for the top shelf craftsmanship that it is, drop my comments and praises and keep it moving; I wouldn't be in the market to buy though.

The inconsistency has drawn a mixed clientele here. For the most part I see 2 collectors here (I'm not talking about the sculpt only peeps :peace). The ones that will buy basically everything and anything that RM releases because they are die-hard RM fans (mixman, Mags & a small select few others) & the likeness fanatic crowd that were drawn in by the best of his sculpts. All groups know what to expect in the outfit and accessory dept. but the likeness-heads sit here from release to release hoping that the next one will be up there with the rest of his best.

Ok I have just seen this.

So I have just been through the Jules thread and I find none of the accusations you make. I agreed that the hair needed to be fuller and maybe a tweak on the facial hair/handlebar mustache. They were unanimous opinions. In large I praised the sculpt highly from the start, it's all there in black and white.

I did have beef with the lightness of the package and the quality of the wallet.

Don't go spouting BS when it isn't true. You got an issue with me, at least stack it up correctly.

Oh the rest of your post, I fell asleep. I got real bored with another of your rambling posts.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Can't we all just get along? It seems like a lot of this stuff has devolved into getting personal, and that's not very nice. Just to clarify, there are multiple parties that seem to be indulging in this kind of ****. At the end of the day, whether you call it art, a toy, or a figure, these things are 12" hunks of plastic, regardless of where they come from, is it really worth the kind of crap that comes up in these threads?
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Can't we all just get along? It seems like a lot of this stuff has devolved into getting personal, and that's not very nice. Just to clarify, there are multiple parties that seem to be indulging in this kind of ****. At the end of the day, whether you call it art, a toy, or a figure, these things are 12" hunks of plastic, regardless of where they come from, is it really worth the kind of crap that comes up in these threads?

It would seem there are some bad blood that's developed over time and that's sad. That is definitely not what this hobby is all about. As members of the 1/6 figure community and customs in particular we should all strive to help each other and this hobby move forward and be better. This side drama is really unnecessary.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

When somebody accuses me of saying something that I didn't, and accuses me of being inconsistent, which I am not, I have a right to bring that up.

He is one of the cronies, I expected nothing less.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

So again I ask. What about the fellas that like it as it is? There seems to be as many that like it the way it is as dislike it. Do we have a voice? Why must it be reworked?

:lecture

Anybody from the rework it camp want to chime in? Feel free.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Honestly I know you guys like "the style" but is improving the likeness not a good thing? I mean really are you seriously going to be disappointed if he improved the likeness?
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Honestly I know you guys like "the style" but is improving the likeness not a good thing? I mean really are you seriously going to be disappointed if he improved the likeness?

If we like it now why wouldn't we like it if he improved on it?
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Honestly I know you guys like "the style" but is improving the likeness not a good thing? I mean really are you seriously going to be disappointed if he improved the likeness?

Not at all. If Rainman is willing to rework the sculpt to bring out more likeness I'm sure most if not all would be all for it.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I've never taken sides before in this whole debate... but PERSONALLY... I collect 1/6 customs because they can blow me away in how realistic they appear. I don't buy 1/6 because they're artistic takes on a character so much as because they look like a shrunken down 1/6 version of the movie character. Not saying that Rainman or ANY custom 1/6 maker misses the mark, etc. on various projects... but I always prefer the artist to strive more for realism than any "artistic flairs".


But hey... that's just my preference. Even as is... I'm going to order me a Taxi Driver. Would I be ecstatic if Rainman improved the likeness? Of Course!!! But it's not an awful representation like some people make it out to be.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Honestly I know you guys like "the style" but is improving the likeness not a good thing? I mean really are you seriously going to be disappointed if he improved the likeness?

To some, myself included, little tweaks are not going to drastically change the likeness but change the appearance. Changing the eyelid position is not all of a sudden going to give us a photo realistic sculpt. It will just change the appearance/expression.
 
Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

To some, myself included, little tweaks are not going to drastically change the likeness but change the appearance. Changing the eyelid position is not all of a sudden going to give us a photo realistic sculpt. It will just change the appearance/expression.

I respectfully disagree. I believe you can tell a lot from a person's eyelids. Big difference from person to person. Like I've stated countless times... people's brains recognize facial features differently. Different facial features stand out more to others... some people may not even notice differences until several are present. But then again... it could be because I've spent so much time out of my life watching people get their faces altered permanently in real life. :)
 
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