Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "Driver"

[alexi.volk]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

might have to go for the full set if i can.

 

[Hydeous]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Here's the thing regarding style vs. likeness. Not everyone collects 1/6 for the same reasons. Obviously. And everyone is certainly entitled to their reasons. But for me I collect 1/6 so that I can own a miniaturized piece of a film or show that I love and identify with. To me that means getting it to the closest essence of the real thing. Im not a stickler for EXACT detail when it comes to making sure the lapels are exactly the length they need to be, of if the shoes are tad more brown than they were, etc. My dioramas are 'representations' of the real thing. After all, a real 1/6 Bateman apartment would be the size of my office. HAVING said that to me the measure of success in this respect is this: if someone I don't know can come in a look at my collection and not only accurately identify each piece but be convinced by it's presentation enough to invoke the memory of the source material to the degree that they say 'wow, it's like a miniature version of..." then its worth having. I love when someone looks at my photography and questions wether its a screen grab of the film or not. Most of the onus falls on the sculpt. Obvioulsy the clothes matter. The posing. The background. But likeness is king.

One of the things that bothers me most is when someone recognizes the costume and accessories and the character but NOT the actor in the likeness. For instance... "oh look Pulp fiction! Cool! But that kinda doesn't look like travolta..."

I could care less of what others think of whether my figures look like the actors or not, so long as they do in my eyes. Others' opinion (my wife in in this case) is just a bonus, but not a deal breaker.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

For the more expensive side of the menu, I agree. Style is great, but Likeness is King. It's the name of the game.

Here's the thing regarding style vs. likeness. Not everyone collects 1/6 for the same reasons. Obviously. And everyone is certainly entitled to their reasons. But for me I collect 1/6 so that I can own a miniaturized piece of a film or show that I love and identify with. To me that means getting it to the closest essence of the real thing. Im not a stickler for EXACT detail when it comes to making sure the lapels are exactly the length they need to be, of if the shoes are tad more brown than they were, etc. My dioramas are 'representations' of the real thing. After all, a real 1/6 Bateman apartment would be the size of my office. HAVING said that to me the measure of success in this respect is this: if someone I don't know can come in a look at my collection and not only accurately identify each piece but be convinced by it's presentation enough to invoke the memory of the source material to the degree that they say 'wow, it's like a miniature version of..." then its worth having. I love when someone looks at my photography and questions wether its a screen grab of the film or not. Most of the onus falls on the sculpt. Obvioulsy the clothes matter. The posing. The background. But likeness is king.

One of the things that bothers me most is when someone recognizes the costume and accessories and the character but NOT the actor in the likeness. For instance... "oh look Pulp fiction! Cool! But that kinda doesn't look like travolta..."

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JJuHpfN5g

Haha.

 

[DarthMagnus]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I could care less of what others think of whether my figures look like the actors or not, so long as they do in my eyes. Others' opinion (my wife in in this case) is just a bonus, but not a deal breaker.

 

[DarthMagnus]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

You're taking me wrong bro; I actually wasn't going to throw you in there but I thought you might get offended if I DIDN'T

And please don't misunderstand, I'm not saying anything negative about that group that will buy most to anything that he releases; I'm just noting their existence. There's nothing wrong if people are die hard fans and would buy anything he does because the love his work. You have to buy what you like in this hobby. If you can swing it, it tickles your fancy and meets your collecting standards... buy it! I'm just suggesting that the other group that's more driven by likeness has a totally different mentality.

Cool bro. You know were good money my dude. Just had to clear that!

As for that other mentality............its liable to kill this game one day. Beause were do you draw the line? Nothing is perfect! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

 

[robbiethepainter]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Look at the horrible seams on that make-up. Piece of crap!

Cool bro. You know were good money my dude. Just had to clear that!

As for that other mentality............its liable to kill this game one day. Beause were do you draw the line? Nothing is perfect! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

 

[transhi100]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Haha! Something is off with the eyes too!!!

 

[Ebeneezer Jones]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Leave my missus out of this..............................

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[greatlakes6]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I just don't get it. To me, making something inaccurate, is not a style. Having the ability to make something look spot on and then choosing to have it look different just doesn't make much sense to me. Would any of us complain that the figure looked too accurate, too much like the real thing? Of course not. When I see and exemplar of a figure, I want to walk by and say wow, that looks just like so and so. Not, well, it kind of looks like him. When you start off making a figure, do you try to make it look like the 1:1 person, or do you just want to come close?

Just my opinion, but I think the reason so many get upset about the likeness being off on a RM figure is that there are so few really good high end sculptors/painters out there. And when you get a chance at a highly sought after figure, from one of those great artists, you want it to be the real deal, because there may not be another opportunity.

 

[Ajkhunter]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I just don't get it. To me, making something inaccurate, is not a style. Having the ability to make something look spot on and then choosing to have it look different just doesn't make much sense to me. Would any of us complain that the figure looked too accurate, too much like the real thing? Of course not. When I see and exemplar of a figure, I want to walk by and say wow, that looks just like so and so. Not, well, it kind of looks like him. When you stat off making a figure, do you try to make it look like the 1:1 person, or do you just want to come close?

Just my opinion, but I think the reason so many get upset about the likeness being off on a RM figure is that there are so few really good high end sculptors/painters out there. And when you get a chance at a highly sought after figure, from one of those great artists, you want it to be the real deal, because there may it be another opportunity.

Thats the thing with handmade art though, it will have flaws because no human is perfect, human error comes into play and different variations show through, you are paying for this artist's creation because its handmade and his perception of the character, if you want a 1:1 which I feel most people do then perhaps don't buy Rainman, its not like this figure is looking like some other dude, I can definitely see De Niro, if you can't then I don't know what to say, pass on it I guess, these figures aren't being printed from computers...(yet!), its not going to be 100% accurate ever!

 

[TurdFerguson]

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Thats the thing with handmade art though, it will have flaws because no human is perfect, human error comes into play and different variations show through, you are paying for this artist's creation because its handmade and his perception of the character, if you want a 1:1 which I feel most people do then perhaps don't buy Rainman, its not like this figure is looking like some other dude, I can definitely see De Niro, if you can't then I don't know what to say, pass on it I guess, these figures aren't being printed from computers...(yet!), its not going to be 100% accurate ever!

Yes, all that stuff you said.

 

[meth head]

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AJK nailed it there for me as well.

The worrying thing is people are struggling/don't understand that way of thinking. Personally I find that bizarre!

 

[greatlakes6]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Here's the thing regarding style vs. likeness. Not everyone collects 1/6 for the same reasons. Obviously. And everyone is certainly entitled to their reasons. But for me I collect 1/6 so that I can own a miniaturized piece of a film or show that I love and identify with. To me that means getting it to the closest essence of the real thing. Im not a stickler for EXACT detail when it comes to making sure the lapels are exactly the length they need to be, of if the shoes are tad more brown than they were, etc. My dioramas are 'representations' of the real thing. After all, a real 1/6 Bateman apartment would be the size of my office. HAVING said that to me the measure of success in this respect is this: if someone I don't know can come in a look at my collection and not only accurately identify each piece but be convinced by it's presentation enough to invoke the memory of the source material to the degree that they say 'wow, it's like a miniature version of..." then its worth having. I love when someone looks at my photography and questions wether its a screen grab of the film or not. Most of the onus falls on the sculpt. Obvioulsy the clothes matter. The posing. The background. But likeness is king.

 

[siquisiri]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

What about the several on the fence? Should they have a say? It is a huge risk for RM to not listen to feedback after putting himself out there for feedback the way he has. Buying, not buying or undecided should all be valid feedback if he is a businessman. If it's just for artistic expression anyone's opinion shouldn't matter.

so even if you are a past customer (and i am) I am not allowed to give an opinion because in your mind (no matter what) you have already made up your mind and will be buying whatever he puts out?? Does that gives you more of a say so with RM then the other "willing to pay" customers WANTING to give this guy the money for a character that is iconic? that doesn't make sense...because up until a few days ago...i was going to give this guy 1500 just like you....the only exception is that i am not a robot and will not buy anything he puts out just to say "hey...its a RM piece here"....i think his brand has taken on another level because of collectors like you...his work has always been good, there is no denying that but his likenesses are often hit or miss...i'm a collector...just like you...the only difference in our habits is that i like to see 95% or better....which he has done....i only questioned why is it that he can't do it consistently...and if he has the ability to do it...why doesn't he do it....it would make his bottom line better... but i guess thats wrong to actually give your opinion in a RM thread...thats pretty brash and almost cocky of you to say TD

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[siquisiri]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Thats the thing with handmade art though, it will have flaws because no human is perfect, human error comes into play and different variations show through, you are paying for this artist's creation because its handmade and his perception of the character, if you want a 1:1 which I feel most people do then perhaps don't buy Rainman, its not like this figure is looking like some other dude, I can definitely see De Niro, if you can't then I don't know what to say, pass on it I guess, these figures aren't being printed from computers...(yet!), its not going to be 100% accurate ever!

I think that peeps on the board have just gotten used to RM and others taking input from members of the board in the past.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Eyes need to be tweaked open a bit more, and the Nose needs some tweaking.

 

[meth head]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I haven't heard much mention of the holster(s). Are they not being done

Is that something Robbie can do maybe?

 

[greatlakes6]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Thats the thing with handmade art though, it will have flaws because no human is perfect, human error comes into play and different variations show through, you are paying for this artist's creation because its handmade and his perception of the character, if you want a 1:1 which I feel most people do then perhaps don't buy Rainman, its not like this figure is looking like some other dude, I can definitely see De Niro, if you can't then I don't know what to say, pass on it I guess, these figures aren't being printed from computers...(yet!), its not going to be 100% accurate ever!

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand what you are saying. My thinking, is that at his level of skill, I fully believe that he has the ability to be more 1:1 accurate. It seems that he chooses not to be. That is fine. If there is an understanding that although I can make it more accurate, but I choose not to, then the discussion ends, we all know where he stands.

As I said in a much earlier post, I do see DeNiro in the sculpt, below the eyes. With the glasses on, he looks really good. That means the eyes are keeping the sculpt from really nailing it.

 

[meth head]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand what you are saying. My thinking, is that at his level of skill, I fully believe that he has the ability to be more 1:1 accurate. It seems that he chooses not to be. That is fine. If there is an understanding that although I can make it more accurate, but I choose not to, then the discussion ends, we all know where he stands.

As I said in a much earlier post, I do see DeNiro in the sculpt, below the eyes. With the glasses on, he looks really good. That means the eyes are keeping the sculpt from really nailing it.

Aghast at what some people cook up in their minds