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In the comic book adaptation, they show Indy tying himself with his whip to the periscope which stays above the water.

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I'd love to see a live-action film about Conan the Cimmerian hitching a ride on a Nazi submarine. I can already hear him crying "Oolow low! Oolow low!" as the waves hit his face.
 
AOTC is very bad (I have said this countless times). Even I chuckle at some of the lines. 5/10.

Very bad = 5/10? I guess if you're giving it a letter grade a 5/10 would be 50% and an F so that seems bad to you. But when I assign a rating, I don't give it a letter grade. Five is an average, enjoyable flick that was not horrible to sit through but wasn't very good either. So with that in mind

ANH - 10/10
ESB - 11/10
RotJ - 9.5/10
TPM - 5.5/10
AotC - 1/10
RotS - 3/10
TFA - 5/10 (rating subject to change if Episode VIII can make Luke heroic and not look like a quitter loser; apart from that it was an entertaining flick and would probably be at least a 7/10)
Avatar - 0/10

And I guess they kinda filmed that too:

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It's funny I never questioned what happens to Indy when I was a kid, though. I guess I never realized that the sub ever submerged.

Thanks for sharing that photo! I'd heard of that deleted scene but have never seen it before. Neat. Submarines don't submerge unless they're hiding from other ships in wartime. WWII hadn't started yet. Was Germany breaking any national treaties or laws having a submarine in the Mediterranean near Egypt? I never really thought about that either myself.
 
Avatar 0/10? You didn't **** around with that backlash :lol

I hated it the first time I saw it. I kept checking my watch and wondering when that **** would end. I could not believe the box office numbers. I could not believe the hype. I'm so happy many went back on their initial feelings for it and hate it with me. I guess the effects were great but I hated the designs of most of the stuff so the point I'd award it for technical achievement is taken away for looking stupid. AotC has some good parts to it. Not many, but I did sit through the movie a half dozen or so times before realizing it was as bad as it is.
 
I assume you only saw Avatar in 2D? That was a big part of the koolaid factor for a lot of us. No way would I say it was a 0/10 movie though. It's still James Cameron making a pretty exciting and crowd pleasing movie. I'd give it a high 7/low 8 out of 10.
 
Avatar is one of the few films that belongs in a theater. Watching it on tv just doesn't work....not the same, unlike other movies. No matter how big your tv might be, the theater experience and the 3D makes that movie shine. One of Camero's best, despite not being very original.
 
Inside Llewyn Davis: 6.5/10
Oscar Isaac was amazing, but the story was a little too rambling for me. Depressing, even though nothing particularly bad happens. Although you always feel a looming threat that something terrible is going to happen just because the mood is so dire and bleak. The best part was the cat(s).
 
Avatar is one of the few films that belongs in a theater. Watching it on tv just doesn't work....not the same, unlike other movies. No matter how big your tv might be, the theater experience and the 3D makes that movie shine. One of Camero's best, despite not being very original.

Never saw it. But anyone who wants the theater experience... is getting three more chances with the sequels...
 
Inside Llewyn Davis: 6.5/10
Oscar Isaac was amazing, but the story was a little too rambling for me. Depressing, even though nothing particularly bad happens. Although you always feel a looming threat that something terrible is going to happen just because the mood is so dire and bleak. The best part was the cat(s).

I loved that they let the songs play. Defintely a peculiar movie but it's confidence in the material is admirable.
 
Extreme reactions to movies can never be trusted and used to project how you yourself will feel about a movie. A 0/10 and a 10/10 are thus equally suspect.

Any time I've allowed myself to expect a 10/10 movie after reading such scores from people I've been let down. On the other side of the coin I know that Avatar is clearly better than 0/10. It quite simply would not have done the business it did if it was truly so bad.
 
I like movies that have compelling stories and interesting characters. Avatar had neither. And as good as the effects were, the action itself wasn't anything we hadn't been seeing in blockbusters since CGI had really taken off a decade before. I don't think James Cameron is all that great and doesn't deserve a pass for this boring, preachy, and generic as heck movie. The only movie he's made I love is T1. And I don't even own that one.
 
Any time I've allowed myself to expect a 10/10 movie after reading such scores from people I've been let down.

Yeah, I'd never tell someone "go watch this movie, it's a perfect 10!" (Or "straight 10" as I believe Cameron called Genisys. :lol) If I love a movie like Fury Road or TFA I'll tell my friends or family "I loved it," or "I thought it was really good" and then let them have their own experience. I don't even like calling a movie "great" because of the risk of overselling it. I still haven't given TFA a numerical rating and don't know that I'll be able to for a good long time.
 
Yeah, I'd never tell someone "go watch this movie, it's a perfect 10!" (Or "straight 10" as I believe Cameron called Genisys. :lol)

Maybe Cameron whispered under his breath ''out of 100'' and we missed it. :lol

Not that I'd give Genisys a 1/10. It's more enjoyable than that, it's just not a real Terminator movie as far as I'm concerned.
 
I'd give Avatar a 4/10 and that's basically for effects, which were beautiful. Otherwise, it was a predictable Pocahontas rehash. Unobtanium is as ridiculous as Transformium. Plus, I can't get over the fact that they use the same part of their body to have sex to link to the animals they ride.
 
Extreme reactions to movies can never be trusted and used to project how you yourself will feel about a movie. A 0/10 and a 10/10 are thus equally suspect.

Any time I've allowed myself to expect a 10/10 movie after reading such scores from people I've been let down. On the other side of the coin I know that Avatar is clearly better than 0/10. It quite simply would not have done the business it did if it was truly so bad.

I think our problem with judging others' opinions is we all use different rating systems. For example this side conversation was sparked because I called WWE's 5/10 rating out for describing a "bad" movie. That isn't a "bad" rating. It's somewhere between being "ok" and "meh."

Maybe a new rating system is in order. This will be mine:

0/5 - I hated this movie. I either turned it off or wished I had!
1/5 - I didn't like this movie. It was compelling enough to sit through to the end but was dumb and best forgotten.
2/5 - I enjoyed this movie but have no desire to see it again.
3/5 - I liked this movie and would like to see it again someday if its on Netflix or something.
4/5 - I really like this movie. I would like to own it someday if I can have it for a decent price.
5/5 - I freaking love this movie. I will buy it the day it comes out, will probably double dip to better releases that come out, will maybe own merchandise from this movie and will see it so many times that I can quote it word for word.

So with this rating system in place, here is how I would rank SW and Avatar:

ANH - 5/5
ESB - 5/5
RotJ - 4.5/5
TPM - 2.5/5
AotC - 1/5
RotS - 1.5/5
TFA - 2.5/5
Avatar - 0/5

I'm not being a movie critic when I give it a rating. I'm simply conveying how much I enjoyed the movie. I did not enjoy Avatar despite any of the good things that might have been in it. And despite the flaws that might be in a movie like Star Wars, there's really no other movie that gives me so much pleasure to watch.
 
That rating system is okay if you judge a film only by it's rewatch factor. But by that system I'd have to give Schindler's List a 2/5 when in reality I consider it a masterpiece. In no way does that mean that you can't use your own methods but it isn't something I would ever adopt.
 
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