RATE or REVIEW The Last Movie You Watched.

[snoop101]

Settle down ladies.

 

[EVILFACE]

How you chaps have the patience to individually quote and respond to specific lines

And to do it over Predator 2? For pages?

 

[WWEJedi]

I sound like WWEJedi huh? I'm perfectly fine with P2 being the under-appreciated little gem it apparently is

My thoughts exactly with ROTS.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What are you talking about? I addressed the review and I maintain it's retarded to take away the mystery from the Predator.

I have made plenty of arguments and I could quote them again, why are you so hell bent on covering your ears? I don't get it.

Your response was completely dismissive and then you say the reason AVP sucked was because we knew too much about the Predators, which is in no way true. See..

Who the hell wants to know more about Predators? Leave that **** in mistery, that's one of the reasons AvP sucks.

There are a million reasons as to why all the AVP aren't great, but it has nothing to do with exploring the Predator race, world, history or developing those characters and world. The Predator doesn't need to be mysterious after P1...and a good sequel develops the ideas and characters from the first film. Changing the setting, and giving us a similar Predator is not breaking new ground from a story telling point of view.

I sound like WWEJedi huh?

Yep, you argued with him so much...some part of him got imprinted on to you...Smith/Neo style

Dude, I asked you like 3 times to explain why is the jungle so pivotal to the Predator and you could not do it, 3 times, you just ignored me, yet you expect me to just spoon feed you a scene you missed.

I did. You just ignored it like everything else. I told you that he's a hunter, that the environment played a role in the film because he knew the jungle and the soldiers didn't, which gave him a tactical advantage, and that given that the design of the character is that of a lizard like character who uses camouflage...or invisibility in the jungle, it made more sense for him to be in a jungle, which is what the writers wrote to begin with. They didn't start with him in a modern city for a reason. Just because he could turn invisible in a city or in other environments doesn't mean is appropriate for the character, but that wasn't good enough just like the review's point are "retarded"....great response to the review along with "who wants to know more about the Preadtor world or culture?"

You still haven't given me one meaningful scene/moment between Jerry and the chick that shows their relationship developing...don't think I forgot about that.

It is true, and you haven't explained why not, nu-uh isn't an explanation. None of us have even touched the subject of the writing in either movies.

The memorable lines, the character's dialogue with each other, the fact that P1 creates the world which P2 just borrows and changes the setting...I mentioned those things which are connected to the writing.

That's not what you said in the part your post I quoted is it? Seriously, what is it that you need to twist, ignore, make up arguments, do you not want a serious discussion?

I'm not twisting anything..

You said

P2 and P1 have the same level of quality writing.

so I said

No, because P1 is the original, the film that gave us that world and the main creature...

then your response was

And none of that has to do with writing, Jesus Christ dude

and my response was

The story of an elite group of soldiers being hunted by a reptile like Alien has nothing to do with the writing? The great character intros, the lines, and a great first, second and third act has nothing to do with the writing? If you actually read the "Hunter" script, you'll see how detail it is and how much of what you see on screen is on the script.

P1 created the main components which the second just borrows and it uses in a less effective way compared to the original film. Basically, P1 is more original than P2.

The fact that one has a semi-plot breaking moment and the other one doesn't doesn't give credit to the latter? Alright.

That's good, but lets not forget that alone doesn't make it a better film. It might be an improvement in ONE area, but overall the original still created the main components which the second just borrows and it uses in a less effective way compared to the original film, which is one of the reasons I said that the writing in P1 is superior, because it's what started it all.. and it's more original than P2.


And another thing not related to any of your posts. I've been watching Predaturd 2 scenes on youtube, and Glover's overacting is horrendous. As ridiculous as it might sound, Arnold is way more subtle with his acting and gives a much better performance than Glover....plus all those cliches like the angry boss yelling at Glover, the new guy/partner Paxton, and the annoying reporter Die Hard style and Robert Davi playing a similar role like in Die Hard make this film an early 90's time capsule of what not to do in a sequel. What a mess of a film Glover isn't even the worst as crazy as that sounds, Paxton takes it to a whole different level of cheesiness....maybe it's his voice. The best actor in that film (which is not saying much) is the Salsa singer Ruben Blades while the most badass is Busey.

 

[cmiller99]

But basically, his power set is the same, only his powerlevels vary, right now, he's pretty much Golden Age, can't fly, has some super strength and vulnerability, but his regular power levels in current main continuity is that he can bench press the weight of the earth for 5 days straight deprived of sunlight when he regains his powers, that's probably what he'll go back to.

Can't fly? Is this a usual thing? I'm really not familiar with comic Superman but I thought that flying was one of his staple powers.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Can't fly? Is this a usual thing? I'm really not familiar with comic Superman but I thought that flying was one of his staple powers.

He was talking about the current comics/story arcs in which Superman lost his powers and can't fly. It's not permanent...he will be good old powerful Sups eventually.

 

[cmiller99]

He was talking about the current comics/story arcs in which Superman lost his powers and can't fly. It's not permanent...he will be good old powerful Sups eventually.

Ah right.

 

[WWEJedi]

Yep, you argued with him so much...some part of him got imprinted on to you...Smith/Neo style

I feel as if now this is some inside joke between the two of you..... baiting me...... Eh... was a funny read for me either way

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

What's the offence for highjacking a movie thread around here these days..

 

[jstep13]

^^ be forced to read WWE's posts?

 

[jstep13]

Surviving the Game 8/10 - such a guilty pleasure of mine but I love this movie

 

[Snake Plissken]

Christ almighty, Gaspar (you too Clown Prince of typing).

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I caught 'Kickboxer' again for the first time in years the other day -- 7.8 / 10.

Cheesy as ****, but it's Van Damme in his absolute prime, & the fight scenes with Tong Po are still excellent to this day.

I always thought it was a good flick. It's a rehash of Bloodsport in some ways, but I didn't mind.

 

[RIDDICK]

Not "Clown Prince of Gaspar" person in this thread:

 

[EVILFACE]

Either Kirk is being attacked by his wigs or the chicks on the Enterprise have discovered razors.

 

[RIDDICK]

... or the chicks on the Enterprise have discovered razors.

They're fans of Furiosa.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I always thought it was a good flick. It's a rehash of Bloodsport in some ways, but I didn't mind.

Yeah, it is actually. Still, I found it cheap recently, & I'm happy to have it added to my movie library. I was a huge fan of his growing up, & always wanted to go back & get those first few films of his that were actually really cool.. except for Double Impact. Loved it in high school, but it's a pretty dumb movie.

Still gotta get the original Universal Soldier too.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Yeah, it is actually. Still, I found it cheap recently, & I'm happy to have it added to my movie library. I was a huge fan of his growing up, & always wanted to go back & get those first few films of his that were actually really cool.. except for Double Impact. Loved it in high school, but it's a pretty dumb movie.

Still gotta get the original Universal Soldier too.

His movies are good bad movies, that I never get tired of. Lionheart is a good one too.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

It was called 'Wrong Bet' in Australia, & apparently 'Lionheart' for the U.S market - what was up with that.

..& yeah that's a fave of mine too. One of his better showings all round.

Good/bad is Streetfighter. So bad.. but I want to get that one as well because it's SF (kinda).. & nostalgia.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Ugh Street Fighter. Even as a little kid seeing in the theater, I knew it was ****

 

[RIDDICK]

Street Fighter

as a little kid

in the theater