Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[DiFabio]

Hopefully Disney turns the Empire's flag into the Confederate Flag

Them Skywalker boys got themselves in a pickle again!

 

[jye4ever]

the only black family in the galaxy.

Nah, somewhere on Hoth you have this going on

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Well, their clothing and hair styles fit perfectly in the OT

 

[Wor-Gar]

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Grandfather?

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I can hear the music now!


I wish Redd Foxx was Mace Windu.



"A Sith Lord...?"

 

[jye4ever]

Them Skywalker boys got themselves in a pickle again!

lol

Man now I want to watch that show....those daisy dukes

 

[GasparZizou]

Finally saw this, I hope I catch up with folk's opinions

I liked it, MUCH better than TFA.

I give it a 7 on first viewing, Vader and Tarkin parts alone are worth the ticket, I remember Riddick said Vader finale didn't make sense? How so? I thought it was very well justified and tasteful the way they sprinkled Vader and Tarkin throughout the movie, they stole the show for me.

Parts of it felt like any random sci-fi tv show, but most of it felt like Star Wars, Krennic was meh, I don't what the racket for that actor was all about, he had plenty to work with and all I got was literally Dagget all over again.

Production values are there, they were impressive, photography was good, score was great, but the weakest part of this is the story in that it's very inconsistent.

For one, I loved they retconned the Death Star flaw, I thought that was brilliant, but for that little fix there were 50 retarded fan service moments that the movie didn't need, and I'll be dammed if those rumors about humor reshoots aren't true, some were very jarring, some were ok.

Plot was original (for a movie), I liked the concept, and the structure of it, but I thought the dialogue was mostly dull and shallow, I did not care for the characters, not to say they were bad, but we didn't get to know them, so I felt nothing for them, usually in these types of movies, like Saving Private Ryan, we get a little character moment, just a tiny scene, when these characters share something personal that makes you care for them, but not here, so, missed opportunity for powerful moments here.

But Vader, ****, I'm ready for that Vader movie.

I take more of these Star Wars stories or anthologies, over continuing the timeline with vapid **** like TFA.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Cuanto $ te pago Disney wey?

 

[ZE_501]

Saw it for the second time this afternoon.

I was able to relax and enjoy it more this time, knowing what to expect and at peace with it.

Badass war movie. It's really it's own thing; strangely even got used to Vader in this viewing.

As for the score, I loved the Jedha stuff; that's actually pretty memorable to me now. I still feel it exists somewhere outside of traditional Star Wars, but it was so gratifying watching that space combat done so well.


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[GasparZizou]

Cuanto $ te pago Disney wey?

10k pesos.

So, like 50 bucks.

you didn't like it?

I'm not sitting on that 7, it could go up or down, depending on my second viewing, and I do want to see it again.

I need to see Arrival and This again, will try to do it this weekend.

 

[jye4ever]

Arrival was great until ruined by the ending.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

10k pesos.

So, like 50 bucks.

you didn't like it?

I'm not sitting on that 7, it could go up or down, depending on my second viewing, and I do want to see it again.

I need to see Arrival and This again, will try to do it this weekend.

I liked it just fine. It's better than TFA and I agree about the Vader scenes.

You're right about a Vader/empire film. That would be cool if they can find a way to use Vader as a main protagonist, maybe with a young apprentice to have an additional character to root for and that can lead to a good Jedi fight with Vader winning of course. Dude need a win on his record

 

[GasparZizou]

I liked it just fine. It's better than TFA and I agree about the Vader scenes.

You're right about a Vader/empire film. That would be cool if they can find a way to use Vader as a main protagonist, maybe with a young apprentice to have an additional character to root for and that can lead to a good Jedi fight with Vader winning of course. Dude need a win on his record

Nah man, have him be the protagonist, have him win, but being a despicable villain. The story should be a small military campaign or operation, supervised by Tarkin with a scene or 2 with the emperor, one or 2 action scenes like the ending of this one, **** that would be great.

They killed the heroes in this one, yeah, they had to do it for sake of continuity, but it was a good ending, I didn't feel much for them but they did various things right, they didn't kiss at the end and they died, that's a step in the right direction, so maybe next time they can have a villain as protagonist.

I'm having a hard time judging the story, am I jaded or was it really not all that memorable or remarkable? I remember all the "hurrr dark and gritty" dumb reviews that I just ignored, however, the few people I saw that said it wasn't memorable called my eye, and worried me cause I thought that might actually be true, since people don't usually use "not memorable" as lightly as "dark and no fun".

 

[Bo Shrek]

Compared to perky perfect Rey yeah I guess she was, her life was more harsh than Rey's though so it fit. Rey was just chilling on a crappy planet.



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Don't forget Saw Guerrera other son......

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Nah man, have him be the protagonist, have him win, but being a despicable villain. The story should be a small military campaign or operation, supervised by Tarkin with a scene or 2 with the emperor, one or 2 action scenes like the ending of this one, **** that would be great.

They killed the heroes in this one, yeah, they had to do it for sake of continuity, but it was a good ending, I didn't feel much for them but they did various things right, they didn't kiss at the end and they died, that's a step in the right direction, so maybe next time they can have a villain as protagonist.

I'm having a hard time judging the story, am I jaded or was it really not all that memorable or remarkable? I remember all the "hurrr dark and gritty" dumb reviews that I just ignored, however, the few people I saw that said it wasn't memorable called my eye, and worried me cause I thought that might actually be true, since people don't usually use "not memorable" as lightly as "dark and no fun".

Well, the story is paper thin and the film is not that memorable in the same way some really good films aren't memorable...if that makes sense. Yeah, they have some new aliens and robots, but that's just background stuff. The rest is all familiar territory and derivative of previous SW films, but that's to be expected because it's a prequel. I don't find the rebels very memorable either, but they served a purpose.

As far as the Vader film goes, I can't see how you make him a protagonist and a villain....unless, there's a conflict within him to give the audience a reason to care about him.

 

[jye4ever]

Article on why only the 1st act is great, 2nd act is good and 3rd act ruins the movie.


Interesting read.

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/1...-hulk-the-slippery-sloping-story-of-rogue-one

 

[GasparZizou]

Well, the story is paper thin and the film is not that memorable in the same way some really good films aren't memorable...if that makes sense.

Interesting, yeah it makes sense, so definitely warrants a second viewing then.

Yeah, they have some new aliens and robots, but that's just background stuff. The rest is all familiar territory and derivative of previous SW films, but that's to be expected because it's a prequel. I don't find the rebels very memorable either, but they served a purpose.

I don't mean memorable as in "new", I mean memorable due do good lines and dialogue, striking scenes, etc etc, to be fair, Vader's scenes are memorable as ****, and I'm not sure it's only "because it's Vader" or "nostalgia", no, I genuinely think Tarkin and Vader scenes are much much better written and so full of character than the rest of the dialogue, honestly, I thought CGI Tarkin acted circles around Dagget, what the hell?

As far as the Vader film goes, I can't see how you make him a protagonist and a villain....unless, there's a conflict within him to give the audience a reason to care about him.

I think people should care about the good guy in Vader's movie, a good guy that Vader will ultimately kill, instead of making Vader align with the audience.

 

[GasparZizou]

Article on why only the 1st act is great, 2nd act is good and 3rd act ruins the movie.


Interesting read.

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/1...-hulk-the-slippery-sloping-story-of-rogue-one

Oh good article, damn, it may go down a bit from that 7, this makes too much sense, I still need to ground how I feel about the movie, I think this one deserves the benefit of the doubt, but this article does ring a bell with me as of now.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I don't mean memorable as in "new", I mean memorable due do good lines and dialogue, striking scenes, etc etc, to be fair, Vader's scenes are memorable as ****, and I'm not sure it's only "because it's Vader" or "nostalgia", no, I genuinely think Tarkin and Vader scenes are much much better written and so full of character than the rest of the dialogue, honestly, I thought CGI Tarkin acted circles around Dagget, what the hell? .

I know what you mean...it's not, imo

Vader is iconic, so he could show up at your birthday party and your party instantly becomes a bit more memorable. If he chokes you...or jokes about choking you, it becomes even more memorable because "member vader choking people back in the 80's." I think it's a combination of nostalgia and undeniable iconic...but familiar iconography that makes it more memorable. It's like the scenes from 84 Terminator in the Genesis film. It's a trick!! That mouse is smart I tell you!!

 

[GasparZizou]

I know what you mean...it's not, imo

The movie? Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's not memorable

I wasn't expecting memorable from new stuff, I was expecting memorable from good performances and good scenes, didn't get any of that either.

Vader is iconic, so he could show up at your birthday party and your party instantly becomes a bit more memorable. If he chokes you...or jokes about choking you, it becomes even more memorable because "member vader choking people back in the 80's." I think it's a combination of nostalgia and undeniable iconic...but familiar iconography that makes it more memorable. It's like the scenes from 84 Terminator in the Genesis film. It's a trick!! That mouse is smart I tell you!!

Don't believe that, I don't believe the reason Vader/Tarkin scenes are so memorable in this is just nostalgia.

You see, everything in Genysis came across as cheap member to me, not iconic, so did a lot of things in RO, but not Vader/Tarkin scenes, they were legitimately well written, had a reason to be there and were opportune and carefully placed, made me think the whole movie was made around these scenes.

I myself don't have strong nostalgia for Star Wars, neither for Tarkin at all, but it was very apparent to me the disparity in dialogue quality in those scenes compared to the rest of the movie.

It wasn't nostalgia for me, the dudes from the cantina in Jedah, the obi-wan reference, the "I have a bad f...." all that made me roll me eyes so hard, but not the Vader scenes, and I was prepared to react the same way.

 

[a-dev]

So this 'member' thing is going to take hold all of a sudden?

Article on why only the 1st act is great, 2nd act is good and 3rd act ruins the movie.


Interesting read.

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/1...-hulk-the-slippery-sloping-story-of-rogue-one

I skipped right to the part about how the 3rd act somehow ruined the movie. If he was honestly thinking all that while watching that incredible battle sequence then I just...I...I don't even...