Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

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BY ALEX OSBORN Rogue One: A Star Wars Story features a number of iconic characters from prior Star Wars films, but there's one particular cameo in the movie that one of the film's writers, Gary Whitta, wishes wasn't included.



Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, Whitta said he wasn't enthusiastic about the decision to include A New Hope's cantina brawlers Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba (aka Walrus Man) in the brief scene that's set in the streets of Jedha.



"I thought having Evazan and Walrus Man was a little too much," Whitta said. "You have to reign in that instinct to go back and put things in just because you loved them when you were a kid." Whitta was the first screenwriter on Rogue One, but others worked on the film after he did (though he would continue to contribute to Star Wars by writing for Star Wars Rebels).



Additionally, director Gareth Edwards discussed with EW how in Rogue One they attempted to reconcile a couple of different lines in the original Star Wars film regarding the Rebel's acquisition of the Death Star plans. "The problem is that in A New Hope, they contradict themselves," he explained, noting that "At one point, they say, 'Conjure up the stolen data tapes' and at another point they say, 'Several transmissions were beamed aboard the ship.' Did they steal data tapes or was it transmissions?"



In an attempt to solve this plot issue, they tried to do both in their depiction of the mission, in footage glimpsed in trailers that included Jyn Erso running across the beach with the plans in her hand. "The original version was that they stole the plans,


tried to get back to the ship and on their way, it all went wrong," Edwards said. This then led to them going to the transmission tower -- which was in a completely different location in this incarnation of the film -- to send the plans. Ultimately though, this extended sequence made the film too long, Edwards explained. In order to condense this part of the film they moved the tower during the film's significant reshoots so it was located at the same base where the tapes are stolen.



Unfortunately, this meant the beach scene, among others, wouldn't make it into the film. "They no longer have to go on a journey across the beach, and some of those decisions can be heartbreaking because I loved a lot of the material we got from that moment," Edwards remarked, while telling EW the decision to cut this material was still best for the film. As he put it, "No matter how well you’re doing in a movie there’s always the point where the audience gets a bit antsy. You don’t want people to have that feeling in a Star Wars film.”
 
Yeah the Evazan and Ponda Baba part should have been left out. I did chuckle at it but having those characters appear in 2 chronologically consecutive movies saying and doing the exact same thing is a bit silly; a 'memba' part that doesn't do anything for the overall story.
 
I agree about not servicing the story but I totally buy into their repeated behavioral pattern, it's how most criminals behave and why they get caught.

A friend of my brother literally is those characters, he goes from bar to bar starting fights and getting arrested.

Over and over and over.
 
A friend of my brother literally is those characters, he goes from bar to bar starting fights and getting arrested.

Over and over and over.

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I'll be careful.
 
The appearance of Walrusman and the Dr was insanely gratuitous. I mean they literally stop the movie for a few seconds as if to say nothing more than "Hey! Remember us! Okay good, carry on." :lol But by the same token no matter how many times I see it I find it completely harmless so in the end no big.

Aaaand I just watched RO at home, full retail price. Who was I kidding earlier, LFL has me by the balls with this film.

And Edwards confirmed what I assumed about the original ending based on the trailer footage. Good call on trimming the beach crossing because the finished battle is the perfect length. White knuckle excitement for a good 40 minutes or so but not long enough to enduce battle fatigue.
 
All the insider comments surrounding the production have been that it doesn't feel like a Star Wars movie. Plus Johnson is a prequel sympathizer.

Good. We need a director that respects the entire story and doesn't just cherry pick and make a "greatest hits" movie to placate tired and irrational fanboys.
 
The same was said about R1, it was a war movie. Have those who feel it was different and those who feel it's a fanboy spectacle. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high this'll fall to far from the rest.
 
So I've watched it again, and it still gets better for me with each viewing. I know it's not a perfect movie, but it's perfect enough for me. I can find small things that I would change, but nothing big.

Example: I wish there was a better transition between the Krennic's Eadu departure and his arrival on Mustafar. Something simple, like when he's looking out of the door of the shuttle on Eadu someone says something like "we've received an urgent message; you're to personally report to Lord Vader", and then as the shuttle door closes Krennic gives an annoyed/worried look.
 
Ooooh! I don't like what you said! *pushes Khev at KryptoSlush*

No KryptoSlush actually makes a really good point. Instead of placating tired and irrational fanboys by having Vader silently slaughtering all those Rebel fleet troopers they could have been much more respectful of the prequels by having him say "Hi!" and "Nice to meet ya!" every time he killed someone. Then when Leia escaped with the plans he could have been all "OOPS, not good."
 
I've also seen it again (twice) - thankfully I still like it. Worthy of recognition in the archives of the Jedi Order. As far as my personal canon it's the first Star Wars film since 1983 that can stay. ''But ROTJ is crap a-dev'', ***t sorry, I keep forgetting - the first film since the one that came out in 1980 etc etc
 
Nice a-dev! When was the last time you've seen *any* movie in the theater three times? Watching it at home I did notice that the Hammerhead corvette was one of the ships that escaped into hyperspace before Vader arrived and started cleaning house. :yess:
 
No KryptoSlush actually makes a really good point. Instead of placating tired and irrational fanboys by having Vader silently slaughtering all those Rebel fleet troopers they could have been much more respectful of the prequels by having him say "Hi!" and "Nice to meet ya!" every time he killed someone. Then when Leia escaped with the plans he could have been all "OOPS, not good."

OOTEENEE!! Herecomesthewindowcleaner! *I have decided that Jawa speak shall here represent mischievous stifled laughter*

Nice a-dev! When was the last time you've seen *any* movie in the theater three times? Watching it at home I did notice that the Hammerhead corvette was one of the ships that escaped into hyperspace before Vader arrived and started cleaning house. :yess:

T'was at a friends actually (by whatever means he acquired it).

Something that didn't click with me on first viewing was that it was only because the Destroyer was disabled by ion cannon that they were able to use the Hammerhead Corvette to push it into the other Star Destroyer - makes sense. Fantastic moment in the film.
 
Although the whole Ion Cannon thing does raise the question - since it's so effective why isn't it the default weapon of choice for all spacecraft?
 
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