Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[jye4ever]

One cool thing I noticed during the Darth Vader scene at the end of Rogue One is that Vader actually catches a laser blast from one of the Rebel Soldier's blasters in midair and throws it back at him, killing him. Kylo Ren, it turns out, was not the first person to do this.

That's cool I need to rewatch because I missed that.

Nothing will ever top iMO of Vader lifting the rebel up to the ceiling then slicing him in mid air with the two halves hitting the ground after the most shocking Vader scene ever created , even more crazy than cutting Luke's hand off

I get where you're coming from it is a very awesome scene....but.....

It can not compete seeing for the time Vader cutting off Luke's hand followed up with the big father reveal.

That remains imbedded in cinematic history at the National Film Registry in the Library of Congress.

RO Vader while very awesome we have already seen him do that in videogames.

I mean sure one can say it's significant because that's the first time in a SW movie he went full power while in costume and I would agree but nothing can touch the Vader-Luke exchange in ESB.

 

[KryptoSlush]

That's cool I need to rewatch because I missed that.

I had to go frame by frame to catch it, but it's there. So badass.

 

[Khev]

The simple plot premise and the fast pace it was afforded created a teflon thrill ride that doesn't allow any nitpicks to stick.

Agreed which is why I feel no shame in mentioning RO in the same breath as SW, ESB, ALIENS, and Raiders. You can nitpick any of them but it doesn't diminish their greatness in any way.

And I also agree that RO is in no way shamed by living in ESB's shadow. Quite frankly arguably every other film ever made does as well.

Another thing I really like about RO is how unique and necessary everyone's actions were in saving the day. One thing that has bugged me about ROTJ was realizing however many years back just how redundant the overall victory was, at least with regard to the Rebels defeating the Empire. If Luke didn't redeem Vader and kill the Emperor so what he still would have died when the DS exploded. If Han never got the shield down so what because Luke still caused the Emperor's death and Vader could have just gone on the intercom and announced that the Emperor was dead and for all Imperials to unconditionally surrender. They obeyed him when he ordered them to commit suicide in asteroid fields, you know they would have given up if he told them to. Same if Lando and Wedge failed. Luke's victory made their accomplishments unnecessary.

But in RO you have each of the main characters playing an absolutely crucial role in the plans getting into the hands of the Alliance. Jyn and Cassian steal them, Baze helps keep Chirrut alive, Chirrut activates the Master Switch, Bodhi sends word to the Alliance that the plans will be beamed up, and then you've got significant accomplishments from the side characters like Blue Leader destroying the AT-ACT that was about to kill Baze and Chirrut (and thus keeping them alive so they can turn on the Master Switch,) Mon Mothma getting credit for sending Blue Leader into battle, Admiral Raddus getting credit for joining the fight which led to Mothma sending the X-Wings, Gold Leader's Y-Wings taking out the Star Destroyer with ion cannons, then Raddus again sending the Hammerhead Corvette to push it through the Shield Gate, etc.

It just was never about one or two characters doing all the heavy lifting while others needlessly engaged in battle. It was an awesome ripple effect of the entire Alliance coming together and firing on all cylinders when it counted.

 

[guyver1]

That's cool I need to rewatch because I missed that.



I get where you're coming from it is a very awesome scene....but.....

It can not compete seeing for the time Vader cutting off Luke's hand followed up with the big father reveal.

That remains imbedded in cinematic history at the National Film Registry in the Library of Congress.

RO Vader while very awesome we have already seen him do that in videogames.

I mean sure one can say it's significant because that's the first time in a SW movie he went full power while in costume and I would agree but nothing can touch the Vader-Luke exchange in ESB.

Of course..what I meant as far as Vader being gruesome in a film, that scene I mentioned was crazy, as far as best Vader scene ever ..absolutely the classic and iconic " No.,I am your father " was legendary and will forever be in the Hollywood archives.

 

[jye4ever]

Agreed which is why I feel no shame in mentioning RO in the same breath as SW, ESB, ALIENS, and Raiders. You can nitpick any of them but it doesn't diminish their greatness in any way.

And I also agree that RO is in no way shamed by living in ESB's shadow. Quite frankly arguably every other film ever made does as well.

Another thing I really like about RO is how unique and necessary everyone's actions were in saving the day. One thing that has bugged me about ROTJ was realizing however many years back just how redundant the overall victory was, at least with regard to the Rebels defeating the Empire. If Luke didn't redeem Vader and kill the Emperor so what he still would have died when the DS exploded. If Han never got the shield down so what because Luke still caused the Emperor's death and Vader could have just gone on the intercom and announced that the Emperor was dead and for all Imperials to unconditionally surrender. They obeyed him when he ordered them to commit suicide in asteroid fields, you know they would have given up if he told them to. Same if Lando and Wedge failed. Luke's victory made their accomplishments unnecessary.

But in RO you have each of the main characters playing an absolutely crucial role in the plans getting into the hands of the Alliance. Jyn and Cassian steal them, Baze helps keep Chirrut alive, Chirrut activates the Master Switch, Bodhi sends word to the Alliance that the plans will be beamed up, and then you've got significant accomplishments from the side characters like Blue Leader destroying the AT-ACT that was about to kill Baze and Chirrut (and thus keeping them alive so they can turn on the Master Switch,) Mon Mothma getting credit for sending Blue Leader into battle, Admiral Raddus getting credit for joining the fight which led to Mothma sending the X-Wings, Gold Leader's Y-Wings taking out the Star Destroyer with ion cannons, then Raddus again sending the Hammerhead Corvette to push it through the Shield Gate, etc.

It just was never about one or two characters doing all the heavy lifting while others needlessly engaged in battle. It was an awesome ripple effect of the entire Alliance coming together and firing on all cylinders when it counted.

Jesus H Carpenter that is an above DiFabio level post right there!

Dude you're firing on all cylinders!

You just single handily made *RO > than an OT movie!






* Still requires committee approval from Wor-Gar and a-dev though.

Of course..what I meant as far as Vader being gruesome in a film, that scene I mentioned was crazy, as far as best Vader scene ever ..absolutely the classic and iconic " No.,I am your father " was legendary and will forever be in the Hollywood archives.

Believe you me that RO Vader scene is on repeat viewing at my house.

 

[guyver1]

Jesus H Carpenter that is an above DiFabio level post right there!

Dude you're firing on all cylinders!

You just single handily made *RO > than an OT movie!






* Still requires committee approval from Wor-Gar and a-dev though.





Believe you me that RO Vader scene is on repeat viewing at my house.

I wonder if 3D in the Vader scene in the home gives off the same impact of the Vader massacre of IMAX in the theater..yes I know but HD 4K resolution has to account for something right

 

[jye4ever]

I wonder if 3D in the home gives off the same impact of IMAX in the theater..yes I know

While RO 3D isn't the go to title when one wants to show off 3D the 3rd act is a must watch in 3D at least once.

 

[Khev]

Jesus H Carpenter that is an above DiFabio level post right there!

Dude you're firing on all cylinders!

You just single handily made *RO > than an OT movie!

I even forgot to mention poor K-2 who also played a critical role in Jyn and Cassian finding and then retrieving the plans. But yes he's easily one of my very favorite characters in the Saga now.

* Still requires committee approval from Wor-Gar and a-dev though.

 

[guyver1]

While RO 3D isn't the go to title when one wants to show off 3D the 3rd act is a must watch in 3D at least once.

You mean Vader choking Krennic in 3D doesn't have any impact

 

[jye4ever]

I even forgot to mention poor K-2 who also played a critical role in Jyn and Cassian finding and then retrieving the plans. But yes he's easily one of my very favorite characters in the Saga now.

His snarkness is so much fun I could watch a movie just on K2SO going about his business.

I like that Cassian was thin framed like K2 lol.

You mean Vader choking Krennic in 3D doesn't have any impact

Vader's shadow when the door opened looked great lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I mean sure one can say it's significant because that's the first time in a SW movie he went full power while in costume...

Did he?

After watching the film...or the scene again, I feel he could have used his telekinetic abilities to keep the door close so that no one could leave, but nope, he was too busy using it to keep one dude stuck to the ceiling.

He took a few of their weapons, but why not disarm them all...or choke them all at once? Can he only choke one person at a time?

It's a cool scene, but I feel he could have done more to get the disc, considering his abilities.

Maybe I've been spoiled by superhero films and Magneto lifting stadiums, but I don't think so.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm happy they didn't go all Cap with him.

Next you'll be complaining that he failed to force pull Leia's ship back to him lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Can't he run really fast like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan too?

Oh no, not when he needs to. That's right.



What about leaping far?

Oh no, again, can't use established canon abilities that would end the story right then and there. Right.


But couldn't he just snatch that little disc right out of the soldier's hand like he does with laser bolts?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Next you'll be complaining that he failed to force pull Leia's ship back to him lol.

Actually, I posted that a few months ago

He could at least try

 

[guyver1]

Didn't the Alderann flagship hit light speed at the end of RO..there is no way ANH started from that moment there couldn't have been enough time for even a star destroyer to track it down that fast if it jumped to light speed that quick. Unless Edwards is saying the star destroyer jumped with the flagship at the same time and why did the flagship jump to tatooinee

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Can't he run really fast like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan too?

Oh no, not when he needs to. That's right.



What about leaping far?

Oh no, again, can't use established canon abilities that would end the story right then and there. Right.


But couldn't he just snatch that little disc right out of the soldier's hand like he does with laser bolts?

I never bought into the comic Vader running or jumping like some Olympic athlete...not after watching the original films.

It'd be like watching Robocop the movie, then reading a comic and seeing him doing splits and moving like Spider-Man

Still, his telekinetic abilities should be enough to keep a door close while he kills the rebels.

 

[DiFabio]

Can't he run really fast like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan too?

Oh no, not when he needs to. That's right.



What about leaping far?

Oh no, again, can't use established canon abilities that would end the story right then and there. Right.


But couldn't he just snatch that little disc right out of the soldier's hand like he does with laser bolts?

wtf I hate Star Wars now

 

[rivera2171]

Didn't the Alderann flagship hit light speed at the end of RO..there is no way ANH started from that moment there couldn't have been enough time for even a star destroyer to track it down that fast if it jumped to light speed that quick. Unless Edwards is saying the star destroyer jumped with the flagship at the same time and why did the flagship jump to tatooinee

The flagship jumped to Tatooine to find ObiWan Kenobi...

 

[guyver1]

I never bought into the comic Vader running or jumping like some Olympic athlete...not after watching the original films.

It'd be like watching Robocop the movie, the reading a comic and seeing him doing splits and moving like Spider-Man

Still, his telekinetic abilities should be enough to keep a door close while he kills the rebels.

Not just the comics..the books depicted an agile Vader as well

 

[guyver1]

The flagship jumped to tatooine to find ObiWan Kenobi...

Oh yeah how could I forget