Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Not just the comics..the books depicted an agile Vader as well

I don't think it works.

If a character is young and agile to begin with like Maul, then it's fine.

However, seeing Yoda go from old man with a cane to break dancing with a lightsaber and screaming like Xena Warrior Princes was jarring, so I don't need to see an agile Vader.

 

[guyver1]

So does anyone wonder how Obi wan got to tatooine in the end of ROTS. If it was through his PT fighter. What happened to it and why did he need a ship to go to Alderann in ANH.

I know he was hiding, but I wonder if it drove him crazy living on Tatooine for the rest of his life knowing he couldn't leave

 

[Khev]

Noobs. Back in the 80's we wondered why Vader didn't freeze the Falcon in mid air back on Echo Base or easily stop Luke from falling in Cloud City.

 

[guyver1]

I don't think it works.

If a character is young and agile to begin with like Maul, then it's fine.

However, seeing Yoda go from old man with a cane to break dancing with a lightsaber and screaming like Xena Warrior Princes was jarring, so I don't need to see an agile Vader.

The crazy thing about it was Yoda was still old when he was flipping around in the PT so I wonder how wild he must have been when he was training to be a Jedi

 

[Khev]

Didn't the Alderann flagship hit light speed at the end of RO

I assume you mean Leia's Blockade Runner and not Raddus' flagship which was disabled by Vader's Star Destroyer.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

So does anyone wonder how Obi wan got to tatooine in the end of ROTS. If it was through his PT fighter. What happened to it and why did he need a ship to go to Alderann in ANH.

I know he was hiding, but I wonder if it drove him crazy living on Tatooine for the rest of his life knowing he couldn't leave

A lot can happen in 17 years.

Maybe he sold it to those little guys that sell robots.

Maybe the sand people stole it.

Maybe he destroyed it.

Maybe it has one seat so he needed a bigger ship in ANH.

 

[DiFabio]

So does anyone wonder how Obi wan got to tatooine in the end of ROTS.

Bail Organa probably dropped him off.

 

[guyver1]

I assume you mean Leia's Blockade Runner and not Raddus' flagship which was disabled by Vader's Star Destroyer.

yeah sorry I never paid attention to Leia's ship's name..still don't

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Noobs. Back in the 80's we wondered why Vader didn't freeze the Falcon in mid air back on Echo Base or easily stop Luke from falling in Cloud City.

Really? Based on what feats?

I can see people (including myself) thinking that nowadays because of the video games or watching super hero films.

However, when I was a kid watching the OG films, I never thought Vader could do anything like that, since it took Yoda, who was at that time the greatest and most powerful Jedi a lot of effort and concentration to lift Luke's ship.

I did wondered why Luke didn't choke Jabba the Hut or the monster he fought in ROTJ, like he did with the two guards?

 

[guyver1]

A lot can happen in 17 years.

Maybe he sold it to those little guys that sell robots.

Maybe the sand people stole it.

Maybe he destroyed it.

Maybe it has one seat so he needed a bigger ship in ANH.

Yeah a lot could happen in the years that past plus he knew a lot about the sand people. Maybe over the years he was battling them. If Owen wasn't on tatooine, would Obi stayed there that long. He knew Ani's mother ( carrier) was already dead so hmm

 

[Khev]

For you guys who care about prequel canon has it occurred to you that RO's prologue occurs just five years after Obi-Wan and Anakin dueled on Mustafar? Which would also mean that Jyn's even earlier flashback of Coruscant when her dad and Krennic were having drinks might have even been them celebrating Galen's promotion to head DS engineer *before* the end of ROTS. That almost hurt to type and it certainly isn't a part of my SW "reality" but I just wonder if you guys even noticed that we have actually seen new live-action prequel era footage from Disney if you go by the official canon.

 

[Khev]

Really? Based on what feats?

Based on "size matters not" and the fact that Yoda believed that a novice like Luke could accomplish a similar feat had he only the belief.

 

[jye4ever]

Really? Based on what feats?

I can see people (including myself) thinking that nowadays because of the video games or watching super hero films.

However, when I was a kid watching the OG films, I never thought Vader could do anything like that, since it took Yoda, who was at that time the greatest and most powerful Jedi a lot of effort and concentration to lift Luke's ship.

I did wondered why Luke didn't choke Jabba the Hut or the monster he fought in ROTJ, like he did with the two guards?

Yeah I definately wasn't thinking that about Vader in 80-83.

I would love to bring the PT back to 1983 and show people who had just finished watching ROTJ.

 

[guyver1]

Really? Based on what feats?

I can see people (including myself) thinking that nowadays because of the video games or watching super hero films.

However, when I was a kid watching the OG films, I never thought Vader could do anything like that, since it took Yoda, who was at that time the greatest and most powerful Jedi a lot of effort and concentration to lift Luke's ship.

I did wondered why Luke didn't choke Jabba the Hut or the monster he fought in ROTJ, like he did with the two guards?

Didn't the Clone Wars series touch base about using the force choke depended on the situation

 

[jye4ever]

For you guys who care about prequel canon has it occurred to you that RO's prologue occurs just five years after Obi-Wan and Anakin dueled on Mustafar? Which would also mean that Jyn's even earlier flashback of Coruscant when her dad and Krennic were having drinks might have even been them celebrating Galen's promotion to head DS engineer *before* the end of ROTS. That almost hurt to type and it certainly isn't a part of my SW "reality" but I just wonder if you guys even noticed that we have actually seen new live-action prequel era footage from Disney if you go by the official canon.

 

[Khev]

I did wondered why Luke didn't choke Jabba the Hut or the monster he fought in ROTJ, like he did with the two guards?

I always wondered why Luke had to throw a skull at the button in the Rancor pit instead of just pushing it with the Force. He was certainly capable at that point in time.

 

[guyver1]

The theories tying SW lore to RO and PT with the OT mixed in is intriguing

Can you imagine when TLJ comes out, the topics that will be raised. But since Canon is gone, I wonder what in the Rey era of SW will make sense to us

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Didn't the Clone Wars series touch base about using the force choke depended on the situation

I don't watch Clone Wars, so I have no idea.

Force choking is just using telekinesis to apply pressure, so I'm sure it has limitations depending on the opponent.

I've never seen Vader using it against a physically invulnerable being, just normal people/humans...so maybe it doesn't work on a big monster like Rancor.

However, Leia choked Jabba with a chain , so Luke should have been able to do it against Jabba...then again, Luke's telepathy didn't work on Jabba, so maybe his kind can resist telekinesis/force choking, but there's nothing official that says Jabba's kind can resist telekinetic attacks.

I always wondered why Luke had to throw a skull at the button in the Rancor pit instead of just pushing it with the Force. He was certainly capable at that point in time.

Lack of concentration?

 

[Khev]

Yeah I definately wasn't thinking that about Vader in 80-83.

When I said 80's I didn't mean the years the films were released. I was single digit ages for every single one (ages 3, 6, and 9 respectively) and I certainly wasn't questioning anything about tactics or what have you *that* early on. But once I hit my teens in the latter years of the decade my homies and I did theorize that based on Yoda's teachings Vader might have been able to stop the Falcon and wondered why he didn't levitate Luke.

Now of course we didn't have the snide "ha ha that's so stupid" vibe of superhero fanboys in the internet age, it was more "ooh I bet Vader was kicking himself for not thinking fast enough to try that, the Rebels/Luke sure are lucky," etc.

 

[Khev]

Lack of concentration?

That would be my best assumption. Only using the Force when "calm and at peace" and all that as opposed to being high on adrenaline while running from a giant monster.