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There is only one Dark Lord... and he didn't use to be a whiny adolescent with emotional issues. :wink1:

when i was a kid, i'm not kidding... i thought it was Dark Vader :lol

^ maybe that shows how far back my habit of 'not listening properly' goes :eek that's like at least 30 years of not shutting up :rotfl

Morgoth was the real Dark Lord, back then Sauron was just his lieutenant.

:stick but Morgoth retired to Florida and left the bad ass suit for Sauron :bunnydanc
 
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My job is to allow the viewer to make up his or her mind on those details as to the skeletal victims on the ground. Part of the beauty of Tolkein's work is that there is some room to give visual interpretation to a scene like this.

Hear hear! :lecture

Its' all about artistic license, after all. As art collectors -- and I think that's ultimately what we really are -- we really should allow artists a little room to interpret their subjects in a way that speaks to and inspires their own unique artistic vision.

We probably shouldn't get too caught up in the literal interpretation of the image, lest we end up trying to "CSI" the whole scene to death. (Next thing you know we'll be trying to determine the identities of the skeletons and their exact causes of death! :lol)

Personally, I don't want to miss the forest for the trees! If we get too caught up in minutiae, we risk forgetting how awesome the painting -- and hopefully the statue -- really are! :duff

(Also: Fantastic job, Jerry! :clap)
 
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Actually, forced into retirement by the other Valar. I hear the void is empty and he (Melkor, he who arises in might) is working on a come back.
 
Thanks Bucky : )

Some of us don't agree on some things, like legs, rings of power poses, skeletal victims' helmets, etc., BUT a very good chance we all love Tolkein's works that has inspired many. Of all the critics I have dealt with on the Sauron project and others, there is one critic that is the worst of all................ME.
This Sauron statue is also an inspired piece that will vary from my art, and maybe toward the better in three dimensions. Let's wait and see!

Take care all,

JV
 
Sorry for all this crapola Jerry. :(

Congratulations on creating a wonderful work-of-art. :clap

Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with on your Balrog painting. :wink1:

I tip my hat to you sir, you have a wonderful talent.



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Bill
 
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There is only one Dark Lord... and he didn't use to be a whiny adolescent with emotional issues. :wink1:

vader is one of my favorite villains, but the prequels really did a number on him. Good thing they ended right as he put on the helmet, if they showed vader whining in his helmet it would destroyed the character completely.
 
vader is one of my favorite villains, but the prequels really did a number on him. Good thing they ended right as he put on the helmet, if they showed vader whining in his helmet it would destroyed the character completely.

I treat the prequels as totally different movies from the originals. They're just too different to me.

I don't think I've watched the prequels all the way through since I first saw them in the theater. I catch them once in a while on Spike, but just bits and pieces. They could fall off the face of the Earth for all I care.

I just hope I live long enough to see the original trilogy as seen in theaters on blu.

Sauron > Vadar
 
Sauron > Vadar

I like Sauron a lot, and LOTR much more then SW, but for me, it's really a shame we only got to see small flashes of Sauron in whole and I just don't feel the character played as big of a part in the movies as he should have, since he's the main villain and all. That's the only thing I didn't like about LOTR.
 
He does play a big part. He's the one driving all the events of the entire story. You have to read other material to get more physical events of Sauron. During The War of the Ring you get the eye and his essence driving things. There is something powerful in that.
 
vader is one of my favorite villains, but the prequels really did a number on him. Good thing they ended right as he put on the helmet, if they showed vader whining in his helmet it would destroyed the character completely.

Errrr...too late.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s"]Vader whining like Frankenstein [/ame]
 
He does play a big part. He's the one driving all the events of the entire story. You have to read other material to get more physical events of Sauron. During The War of the Ring you get the eye and his essence driving things. There is something powerful in that.

I guess, I just wanted to see him more often then we did. The big eye just wasn't enough for me.
 
Sequel? It's been 10 years - time for a "reboot". (or "Relaunch", whatever Hollyweird is calling it lately)

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gah no need for reboot, the original is still perfect. It could be released today in theaters and go toe to toe with any movies in every category including sfx and cinematography.

a lotr movie only sequel could totally work! While middleearth enjoys its peace under king aragorn they became complacent, sauron breaks free catches them by surprise and conquers much of the land while looking for the ring, aragorn tracks down & reassembles the fellowship, then the fellowship splits up into finding the ring & organizing an army while dodging ringwraiths & orcs. Arwen joins the fellowship too. Sam finds the ring this time while frodo looks after him, everyone then meets for a huge battle, ending with the entire fellowship fighting and killing sauron with the ring's help. Oh yeah throw in a few dragons for giggles. Get joss whedon to write the script, peter jackson can still direct.

wola!! damn i should go into the movie business /nod
 
I guess, I just wanted to see him more often then we did. The big eye just wasn't enough for me.


That's all he was by the time of TLOTR, or 'The War of the Rings'. His physical body was long dead and he was just a presence, even in The Hobbit he will just be a 'presence' working through the Necromancer.

Other than making the rings and finally appearing on the battlefield at Dagorlad, to see Sauron in his prime as a shapeshifting bad-a**, would need a big chunk of The Silmarillion to be filmed :wink1:
 
That's all he was by the time of TLOTR, or 'The War of the Rings'. His physical body was long dead and he was just a presence, even in The Hobbit he will just be a 'presence' working through the Necromancer.

Other than making the rings and finally appearing on the battlefield at Dagorlad, to see Sauron in his prime as a shapeshifting bad-a**, would need a big chunk of The Silmarillion to be filmed :wink1:

so in what timeline/book is sauron actually the sauron we see in statues?
 
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