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Nice painting for sure!

So he'll have cloth or leather around the waist area and a cape? I was wondering where the PF part of it would come in.

I like the helm better in the painting.
 
Nice painting for sure!

So he'll have cloth or leather around the waist area and a cape? I was wondering where the PF part of it would come in.

I like the helm better in the painting.


I saw the actual costume when it was in the traveling museum exhibit about ten years ago. Seriously mind-blowing. The triangular bit hanging down from his waist is actually several layers of chain mail. So my guess would be that they'll do that as a solid, sculpted piece. (It won't be real chain mail, I'm sure, as that would be crazy expensive.)

They'll definitely do a fabric cape, though.
 
I don't get why there are numenorean and high elven sceletons.

Yeah must have been long after the battle.? But Sauron was gone by then doesnt make sense. Not sure about that left leg.

We only see a few minutes of the very end of the battle in the prologue. Perhaps it went on for many days prior to that. And this image is meant to capture the Dark Lord having a stroll around the battlefield during a lull in the carnage to survey his handiwork. :dunno
 
I'm sure the flesh was burned off those skeletons. Look at the heat around them. Also, the battle wasn't in one day.
 
Wouldn't they be charred? I hope the base is boneless.

Take it from someone who knows. It doesn't take long for bones to be picked clean by birds, bugs and parasites, especially if they've been charred.

I don't recall if it says in the movie or the books how long the wars went on, but I'm sure they were a short period of time.
 
I believe Sauron will be an incredible piece to have. That being said, it needs to be an attainable piece. I have for the most part stayed away from buying the new releases for lotr simply because the franchise lost steam relatively quickly following the final movie release. This is one of perhaps three pieces I would go back for.

My advice, make this piece solid. Every person that bought the weta Sauron had his helmet break and SS can't provide replacements. Make it solid and don't get crazy w the price. If you want to peak peoples interest to maybe go back and revisit the lotr collection, this is the piece to do it with.
 
In the books, the main battle lasted a while (I think it was several months), then it was the seige of Barad-Dur for seven years, before Sauron emerged and was defeated (even though the movies obviously compresed all this).

So i'm not sure at what point he went for a wander with no-one else around. :lol

But that's not the point is it. It's artistic interpretation of the charcter, and it looks damn cool imo. :rock
 
The battle of the Last Alliance I believe lasted 7 years before Sauron was finally defeated.In that battle were Elves and the men of Gondor, decendants of Numenor, so Numenorian armour made sense to me to include in the artwork. During that time, many events could have taken place, between the written words of the Silmarillion.
As far as any charred bones goes, I chose to believe that either

1 : The remains we see were after a few years when the battle first broke out, yet the war was still ongoing prior to Sauron's fall, and the heat of the volcanic environment charred the remains. Later, wind and rain took care of the rest, and if there was any left from that point, war always attracts carrion birds, so no flesh on them 'ol bones.
Or 2: The very presence of Sauron alone is enough radiating evil that no flesh survives His dreaded presence.

JV
 
And it doesn't take birds to eat corpses. They're fighting orcs. That being said, if anything was going to eat your face, it would probably do the courteosy of removing your helmet. Probably just remains of a long battle over several years.
 
In the books, the main battle lasted a while (I think it was several months), then it was the seige of Barad-Dur for seven years, before Sauron emerged and was defeated (even though the movies obviously compresed all this).

So i'm not sure at what point he went for a wander with no-one else around. :lol

But that's not the point is it. It's artistic interpretation of the charcter, and it looks damn cool imo. :rock

i think for some of that time he was in Barad Dur looking in a mirror and admiring his bad assness :rock
Sauron would make Darth Vader wet himself he's so bad :eek:
 
My job is to allow the viewer to make up his or her mind on those details as to the skeletal victims on the ground. Part of the beauty of Tolkein's work is that there is some room to give visual interpretation to a scene like this.
As for me, Orcs did not rip every victim's helmet off to have a "bit of manflesh", but did his killing and moved on from victim to victim during the battle. The poor fellows in my scene were killed in battle but were left where they fell, with only the elements of time to cause their decayed state ( or Sauron's radiating evil radiation does that to his enemies ). Lava flows later cooled over some of the bones turning into hardening rock, etc. I thought plenty ahead on it, just maybe not as some would have painted it themselves. It's just my take on this Sauron business :wink1:
All I know is the Sculpt is really lookin' sweet, and can't wait to see it in person.

JV
 
Darth vader was pretty much up at the top when it came to bad ass characters in pop culture. But as we all know, the prequel trilogy came out and docked major coolness points from vader, particularly the nooooooooooooo scene.

Now Sauron is pretty cool at the moment but he hasn't experienced the prequel effect yet so judgment should be reserved. :wink1:


:lol

There is only one Dark Lord... and he didn't use to be a whiny adolescent with emotional issues. :wink1:
 
Vader is still as cool to me as ever. What you will see of Sauron shouldn't change a thing as it wil come from the appendices. So it should only add to it.
 
The battle of the Last Alliance I believe lasted 7 years before Sauron was finally defeated.In that battle were Elves and the men of Gondor, decendants of Numenor, so Numenorian armour made sense to me to include in the artwork. During that time, many events could have taken place, between the written words of the Silmarillion.
As far as any charred bones goes, I chose to believe that either

1 : The remains we see were after a few years when the battle first broke out, yet the war was still ongoing prior to Sauron's fall, and the heat of the volcanic environment charred the remains. Later, wind and rain took care of the rest, and if there was any left from that point, war always attracts carrion birds, so no flesh on them 'ol bones.
Or 2: The very presence of Sauron alone is enough radiating evil that no flesh survives His dreaded presence.

JV


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I still believe this to be an excellent choice of pose other than the 'raised ring of power'. He looks supremely confident in his own conceited way as he stands on the ruins of Eru's creations ready to deal with the final threat of Elves and Men (before getting his a** kicked by Gil-Galad and Elendil ) :lecture
 
My advice, make this piece solid. Every person that bought the weta Sauron had his helmet break and SS can't provide replacements. Make it solid and don't get crazy w the price. If you want to peak peoples interest to maybe go back and revisit the lotr collection, this is the piece to do it with.

Unfortunately, I doubt it will be solid.
 
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