Seen the full feature version of Wolverine! (Potential SPOILERS)

[tylerdurden]

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Couldn't agree more....I also thought these scenes were poorly done

3. Stryker entering commands on the computer to control Weapon XI.....come on Fox you can do better than that. "Decapitate"??? Is he playing a videogame or something?

hahahahaha! yeah, "deadpool" should have come with a finishing move as well, ala mortal kombat.

yeah, that allways struck me as dumber than moosepoop. Especialy when they comic book explanation makes so much more sense.
for those of you that don't know, Wolverines healing factor is a double edged sword. it heals ANY wound he gets, and this includes mental wounds. Memories that are too painful are "healed" and he forgets them as they are literaly erased from his mind.
Taking this a little further, the "memory implants" he has came from a very, VERY simple mechanic. they would shoot him in the head, and while he was healing, they would read a script to him of what they WANTED him to remember, showing him a few pictures, and let his imagination fill in the blanks. He also recieved all those "implants" before he got his adamantium.

man, that rational is INFINITELY more believable and well-thought thru than what the "scriptwriters" of wolverine came up with. maybe fox head honcho tom rothman felt this sort of explanation would be too cerebral for the average IQ-deficient (in his mind) moviegoer. bloody idiot.

btw, i never had a problem with hugh jackman. frankly, he's the reason this movie isn't as bad as i feared. granted, his character is a lot less feral here. but blame the writers not jackman. the guy IS wolverine to me.

 

[Black@ssB0lt]

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I see where your coming from BlackBolt, and I guess it's just down to opinion, and the Wolverine you see in Jackman's portrayal. I guess I see most of the films from an 'Ultimate X-Men' perspective, which seems to be where most of these characters basis has come from, and to me the films Logans have done a great job capturing that portrayal.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see an Astonishing X-Men film, especially with all the costumes straight from the comics (spandex...yum), but I doubt it will ever happen.

I know! The movies I loved that I felt really nailed/expanded on the book or at least had the right feel were such a breath of fresh air. Sin City comes to mind, Spiderman II... LOTR and Watchmen were cast almost perfectly but had their warts in terms of story line changes... but those gripes seem minimal for me when looking at how horrible things can really get... like Wanted, Wolverine, Spidey III, FF, Daredevil, and 300. And like you were saying, once it's out there that's pretty much it, it would be really rare for someone to remake say a DD movie for the actual fans, but it so needs doing.

 

[Skiman]

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U didn't like Wanted or 300

 

[Black@ssB0lt]

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U didn't like Wanted or 300

300 - cheapened to the point of stupidity

Wanted - why even call it Wanted. There was no Wanted movie.

 

[DinoLast]

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300 - cheapened to the point of stupidity

Wanted - why even call it Wanted. There was no Wanted movie.

They changed things because the comic's not very good

 

[Black@ssB0lt]

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They changed things because the comic's not very good

So they got rid of all the good stuff.

 

[MANGLORD]

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300 - cheapened to the point of stupidity

Wanted - why even call it Wanted. There was no Wanted movie.

They changed things because the comic's not very good

comic=interesting colorful supervillians, costumes, over the top violence, cool offensive great fun

movie= featured only 2 of the stories characters whos costumes replaced by leather coats and boring performances. no supervillians, bad rock soundtrack, thread tells them who to take out lol this $#!t sucked

the movie was a whole other story not for nerds

 

[Black@ssB0lt]

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What he said

 

[ChrisCJ99]

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What he said

WTF?????

 

[Atheris]

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Saw this movie yesterday, I honestly didnt think it was that bad. I dont know what everyone is harping on about. The acting was pretty good, their were a few shots where the CGI looked a little "iffy"...like when wolverine was on the motorcycle and used his claws in the ground to turn around...that has some fake-ness to it. But almost every movie made using heavy CGI is going to have those scenes where they human eye will catch something that just isnt right. I think the CGI these days is pretty good, but it hasnt reached its "PEAK" of good...where you really say WOW!
But it was an entertaining movie none the less, I actually went out and ordered the claws made from museum replicas after seeing the movie

Chris

 

[shawn-ray]

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i enjoyed the movie. thought it was very good!

 

[Hydeous]

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Watched this yesterday, after picking up my FOF set, so I was in a really good mood and set my expectation low

Its kinda ok, and I did sort of enjoyed it. Although costume wise, its kinda suck (wondering how would HT pull this one off) and that hugh ******* isn't the prefect candidate as wolverine. He's too tall and slim for the role. They shoulda get the guy who did the CGI for LOTR and use the hobbit tech on logan. He even kinda have that bollywood star effect on him whenever I saw him jumping and the camera shoots him from the back. Corny. Most of the actors and their costumes look wack, specially gambit as he look like he got double chin.

Prof X looks kinda plasticy in the end as well, wondered if those are CGI. And judging from what I have seen from spidey 1-2 and ironman, it just sort of puzzles me that this is one of the most recent Marvel comic's production. Kinda disappointing, IMO.

Wouldn't watch it again (like I did with spidey and ironman), and even if HT manage to nail this one, I'm still unsure if I'm gonna pull the trigger or not.

 

[Nils]

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On Gambit

Spoiler

Gambit, as a clone of Mr. Sinister, can actualy do quite a bit with his owers. He has them "toned down" to prevent himsself from LITERALY blowing up the world, as well as affecting living tissue. Amusingly enough, when he has the genetic blocks removed to acess his full power, he can Actualy touch the woman he loves (Rogue) with no ill affects. amusingly, however, this puts the rest of the world at risk, so his "surgical modifications" stay on.

If he concntrates, he can even superchare air molecules and use them to affect things without physicaly touching them, however this takes ALOt out of him.

On wloverines powers and acenstory

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Wolverine, Sabertooth, Feral, Raine Synclare, and several others are members of the species Lupus Superior. Yes, You read that correctly. LUPUS superior. they are mutated WOLVES, not Humans. they can trace their ancestery back to Canine ancestors, as opposed to Apes. As such, their Powers are all very simular, and are genetic. Meaning they were born with them. if you pay CLOSe attention to the opening sequence when Young wolverine Kills Logan, He does so with his claws. Which are still bone at the time. ( logan being the man whom his mother tells him is his father, was the groundkeepr at the Holwette Mansion. wolverines Birth name Being James Howlette. His mother had been having an affair with the groundskeeper. Stories vary, but i BELEIVE he takes the name logan in the film becuase he feels bad. In the comics, a young girl who was his frined that ran off with him Told the owner of the mining camp they ended up in his name was Logan, to hide his true identity. Yes, in BOTH stories Sabertooth is the son of The groundskeeper, and Wolverines 1/2 Brother. In the comic, he was simply called "Dog"

And onto the subject of Deadpool

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Deadpool is a jerk in the comics. His mouth is considered his most dangerous weapon, as he taunts and insults and talks nonstop. It annoyws and irrataes ihis opponets to the point where they make a mistake, and he can get to them. during Civil war, cable sides with Captan america's Secrit avengers, and deadpool sides with the government. Deadpool goes after Daredevil, and ends up taking on all the secrit avengers. at one point he slaps a "device" onto daredevil, and tells his it's an interdimensional teleporter, and in 5 seconds it will teleport his ( daredevil's) brain to dimension X. Daredevil peels the device off, and looks at it, and says " this is just An iPod with some double sided tape on it" Deadpool suckerpunches him, and takes daredevil down, and replies "I know, but it distracted you" Moments later the rest of the avengers show up, and take Deadpool down. When cap askes Cable how to restrain deadpool, he responds " Duct tape. Lots and Lots of Duct tape. At least one roll for his mouth alone. "
On the subject of his skill, There is a point in the gambit limited series where a 1 million dollar bounty is taken out against Gambit. Gambit spends the entire issue outwitting and outrunning mercenairys. he finaly gets stopped by the constrictor.. and then deadpool comes in, and knocks the constrictor out. He's about to put gambit down, and gambit askes him " so how much are they paying you?" Deadpool tells him the price "1 million"
And gambit ofers him 3 million NOT to kill Gambit. Deadpool agrees, and gambit leaves. there is a woman running with him (i forget who it was, might have been currier) and she askes gambit why pay Deadpool, since he's eaisly outsmarting and out manovering all the other mercenairies? he replies " simple, Becuase I CAN't Beat Deadpool, not while running from everyone else. I can run from deadpool Alone, or I can run from the chumps. Not both at the same time. He's THAT good."
For the record, Gambit is Head of the unified Guild of Theves and assassins at this point, the 3 million dollar check he writes deadpool is legetimate.
You want to see definiteve, Comic book accurate deadpool? go watch the animated "hulk Vs. Wolverine" movie. It's Deadpool EXACTLY how he is in the comics. Yes, he's an incredable assassin, but he's also a complete goofball.

That's ALOt of text.

I've been reading alot of the old comics recently to catch up, love Deadpool. However, I've just read the comic where Sabretooth dies. My eyes are tearing up, and I actually want to hurt marvel. I know he'll come back (every freakin' character does with no explanation other than 'magic') but seriously...
Wolverine killed him with a magic sword. Since when did this become highlander?! My favorite character had his head lopped off with a freakin' magic sword. *sigh*
I hope to god that when he returns vengance will be swift.

 

[lerath666]

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300 - cheapened to the point of stupidity

Wanted - why even call it Wanted. There was no Wanted movie.

I agree with this post

They changed things because the comic's not very good

Then you'r taste in comics must be very poor. Wanted is one of the best books I've read in a long time. I agree, the cut all of the GOOD from it, and made a matrix 1 esque action flick. whoopty-freaking-doo.

Something i've never understood. WHY PAY FOR A MOVIE LISCENSE TO AN EXISTING PROPERTY and then use nothing but the character names? If you want to tell an original story, tell an original story. Don't Ham-fist existing characters into it, just because you think it's cool. that makes it little better than Crappy fan-fction.

I've been reading alot of the old comics recently to catch up, love Deadpool. However, I've just read the comic where Sabretooth dies. My eyes are tearing up, and I actually want to hurt marvel. I know he'll come back (every freakin' character does with no explanation other than 'magic') but seriously...
Wolverine killed him with a magic sword. Since when did this become highlander?! My favorite character had his head lopped off with a freakin' magic sword. *sigh*
I hope to god that when he returns vengance will be swift.

Vengeance? Sabertooth ASKED him to do it. Becuase he lost controll of the situation. No, if sabertooth is going to kill anyone If he comes back ( which I doubt, but if he does, it will likely be a clone created by sinister) he'll go after the one who put him in the position where he WANTED to die. Romulos. But IMO, No, He's gone mate. Also, Magic's been a part of Marvel for a LONG time, and it frequently gets overused *cough*OneMoreDay*Cough*. The sword is some sort of "rage given form" forged by Wolvie. kinda neet idea, but could also be dumb. Seems to me however, that With Remulos, and Dakkon in the picture now, they needed to cut out SOMETHING less wolverine get swamped with too many "clones" like him against him. Oh, and lets not forget Wildechilde.

 

[Nils]

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I agree with this post



Then you'r taste in comics must be very poor. Wanted is one of the best books I've read in a long time. I agree, the cut all of the GOOD from it, and made a matrix 1 esque action flick. whoopty-freaking-doo.

Something i've never understood. WHY PAY FOR A MOVIE LISCENSE TO AN EXISTING PROPERTY and then use nothing but the character names? If you want to tell an original story, tell an original story. Don't Ham-fist existing characters into it, just because you think it's cool. that makes it little better than Crappy fan-fction.



Vengeance? Sabertooth ASKED him to do it. Becuase he lost controll of the situation. No, if sabertooth is going to kill anyone If he comes back ( which I doubt, but if he does, it will likely be a clone created by sinister) he'll go after the one who put him in the position where he WANTED to die. Romulos. But IMO, No, He's gone mate. Also, Magic's been a part of Marvel for a LONG time, and it frequently gets overused *cough*OneMoreDay*Cough*. The sword is some sort of "rage given form" forged by Wolvie. kinda neet idea, but could also be dumb. Seems to me however, that With Remulos, and Dakkon in the picture now, they needed to cut out SOMETHING less wolverine get swamped with too many "clones" like him against him. Oh, and lets not forget Wildechilde.

Wildchild sucks. He should have died instead. He's the poor mans Sabretooth. I don't see why marvel would kill off a number of peoples favorite villain in a poorly thought out story line to replace him with Wildchild. I know sabretooth asked to die, but common, that isn't the character we know and love. That story line pissed over everything Marvel had set up in the past (they evolved from WOLVES?!) and the sword Wolvie used was very dumb. OKay he's a samurai, it doesn't give him magic swords. Plus, Sabretooth has an adamantium skeleton. How did the sword cut through that? (unless it was so magic it could cut unbreakable steel.)
I think he'll be back, simply because alot of people were pissed off with his death, and with everything in the marvel universe going as it is, it could still not be Sabretooth (Skrull, clone created by Romulus, House of M mucking reality up?)
I wouldn't mind seeing him working with Wolverine to take down Romulus, but a marvel world without Sabretooth is like...well...Wolverine without sabretooth. Not as fun.

 

[Brooks11b]

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Sp the movie last night. I thought it was pretty bad. It started off ok and just kept going down hill. Like X-3 it had way to many heroes and didn't do justice to any of them.

Go see the new Star Trek instead that movie is great!!

 

[darren1228]

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Sp the movie last night. I thought it was pretty bad. It started off ok and just kept going down hill. Like X-3 it had way to many heroes and didn't do justice to any of them.

Go see the new Star Trek instead that movie is great!!

Yeah my favorite part of the movie was Wolverine and Sabretooth going through all those wars.

 

[darren1228]

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hahahahaha! yeah, "deadpool" should have come with a finishing move as well, ala mortal kombat.

It would've been cool if Stryker entered toward, down, toward, High Punch on his keyboard to finish off Wolverine (I think that was Sub-Zero's fatality from MK1, I know Scorpion's was up,up)

 

[lerath666]

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Wildchild sucks. He should have died instead. He's the poor mans Sabretooth. I don't see why marvel would kill off a number of peoples favorite villain in a poorly thought out story line to replace him with Wildchild. I know sabretooth asked to die, but common, that isn't the character we know and love. That story line pissed over everything Marvel had set up in the past (they evolved from WOLVES?!) and the sword Wolvie used was very dumb. OKay he's a samurai, it doesn't give him magic swords. Plus, Sabretooth has an adamantium skeleton. How did the sword cut through that? (unless it was so magic it could cut unbreakable steel.)
I think he'll be back, simply because alot of people were pissed off with his death, and with everything in the marvel universe going as it is, it could still not be Sabretooth (Skrull, clone created by Romulus, House of M mucking reality up?)
I wouldn't mind seeing him working with Wolverine to take down Romulus, but a marvel world without Sabretooth is like...well...Wolverine without sabretooth. Not as fun.

Actualy, I disagree COMPLETELY about it not being the Sabertooth we know. Sabertooth has allways been about one thing above all others (and reading through the oder comics, it becomes very clear). Sabertooth has allways been about Control. Bein the top man in any situation, bein in theknow, being in controll of EVERY situation, and controll over his own destiny. When Romulus took his humanity ( what little there was in him to begin with) from Sabertooth, it turned him into a ravaging beast, and not the cold, caculated killer that he was. Romulus took Sabertooth's Control from him. Thus sabertooth Took back his Control (and in his mind, perhaps his dignity) by Deciding how and when he was going to die. By Asking wolverine to kill him, He Took back control. And in his mind, robbed Romulus of his victory.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that it feels a little empty w/o sabertooth present, but i think that like Cyber, ( and hell, like Steve rogers) Sabertooth is gone for good. PARTLY becuase sabertooth allways seemed like a character that marvel never really knew what to do with Wolverines "father-turned-Half-Brother".

Unfortunatley, Ever since Joe Q took the helm, marvel has made ALOT of bad decisions.
Killing sabertooth. One More Day ham-fisting spidey's secret identiy genie back into the bottle, and reserecting gwen stacey. Killing charles Xavier, then reserecting him w/o his memory. the list goes on.

 

[Nils]

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Actualy, I disagree COMPLETELY about it not being the Sabertooth we know. Sabertooth has allways been about one thing above all others (and reading through the oder comics, it becomes very clear). Sabertooth has allways been about Control. Bein the top man in any situation, bein in theknow, being in controll of EVERY situation, and controll over his own destiny. When Romulus took his humanity ( what little there was in him to begin with) from Sabertooth, it turned him into a ravaging beast, and not the cold, caculated killer that he was. Romulus took Sabertooth's Control from him. Thus sabertooth Took back his Control (and in his mind, perhaps his dignity) by Deciding how and when he was going to die. By Asking wolverine to kill him, He Took back control. And in his mind, robbed Romulus of his victory.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that it feels a little empty w/o sabertooth present, but i think that like Cyber, ( and hell, like Steve rogers) Sabertooth is gone for good. PARTLY becuase sabertooth allways seemed like a character that marvel never really knew what to do with Wolverines "father-turned-Half-Brother".

Unfortunatley, Ever since Joe Q took the helm, marvel has made ALOT of bad decisions.
Killing sabertooth. One More Day ham-fisting spidey's secret identiy genie back into the bottle, and reserecting gwen stacey. Killing charles Xavier, then reserecting him w/o his memory. the list goes on.

Completely agree with the number of bad decisions. I'm actually getting a little peeved at the number of 'other' wolverine characters. Okay, X-23 was a fun addition, and I quite like her. Then to add Draken and Romulus?! Wolverine is losing any form of uniqueness he had. Just a question though, does it ever explain how the Mursama blade cut through Sabretooth's adamantium? Or was the only explanation that it was 'a magical sword?' Ridiculous if it was. If he's gone for good, Joe Q and I are going to have some words.