Shia LaBoeuf says Indy 5 coming

[Agent0028]

I think the problem with Lucas' CGI is that you know its fake. When you see a few dozen speeders zooming around different directions outside a window you know its CGI and not model work. The other problem is CGI characters, in some ways the look better than people in costumes and in some ways they look worse, but we seem to prefer a a real person inside a suit.

 

[**16k**]

The problem with CGI is they ALWAYS look fake! Too bad it's become fashionable to include them because they can only work when sparse...

I think the problem with Lucas' CGI is that you know its fake. When you see a few dozen speeders zooming around different directions outside a window you know its CGI and not model work. The other problem is CGI characters, in some ways the look better than people in costumes and in some ways they look worse, but we seem to prefer a a real person inside a suit.

 

[LOTRFan]

If Indy 5 can capture the tone and emotion of the first 1/4-1/3 of KOTCS I will be happy; I have absolutely no issues at all with Indy's age, Ford did quite well. The movie just became a train wreck once they reached the jungle - and it had nothing to do with aliens/etc; it was the pacing and lack of any real plot.

KOTCS could have been amazing had they futhered the "Red Scare" and continued delving into Indy's recent past with Marcus and his father, there were some truly touching moments in the first 30-40 mins.

 

[Mighty_Jabba]

The problem with CGI is that there aren't that many directors who know how to use it. On one side there are people like Guillermo del Toro, Peter Jackson and Christopher Nolan who apply CGI with restraint and make sure there is a lot of real stuff in their films, which helps both the audience and the actors. On the other side there are directeros like Francis Lawrence, who decided to go for CGI creatures instead of people in make up in I am Legend, which caused them to look cheesy and unreal and killed the film for me.

 

[a-dev]

Interesting trivia: There was actually more model work done on the PT than the entire OT.

Pick your jaws up off the floor, because it's true.

Lucas' problem these days isn't some technology handicap, it's that he's completely lost his way as a storyteller and editor.

And the reason thats 'interesting' is because you wouldn't know it. Where was this model work? It must have been drowned in cartoon embellishments...sorry CG embellishments.

Its true he lost his way as a storyteller and editor. I think his love of the technology side, CGI etc is both a cause and a symptom of this.

 

[Entropy]

Except that the PT models weren't filmed and were just references for the cgi.

 

[Mr ?]

I would love to see you guys calling Harrison Ford grandpa to his face. I would just stand back and laugh as he wipes the floor with you.
Bring on Indy 5

Those are just movies. In reality he's an aging, whiney-arsed liberal with an ear ring and a skeleton for a girlfriend.

 

[IrishJedi]

Except that the PT models weren't filmed and were just references for the cgi.

No, they were absolutely filmed. Geonosis and Mustafar (just 2 examples) are almost entirely made up of detailed and scaled model sets that were shot and used in the background of almost every exterior scene taking place on those planets.

Now, of course it was all shot digitally and then crammed with tons of other completely CG elements... but ILM built (and shot) a crap ton of models on the prequels.

 

[Something Sexy]

Those are just movies. In reality he's an aging, whiney-arsed liberal with an ear ring and a skeleton for a girlfriend.

Looks like we have a volunteer.

 

[Agent0028]

Let's start placing bets.

 

[Khev]

Now, of course it was all shot digitally and then crammed with tons of other completely CG elements... but ILM built (and shot) a crap ton of models on the prequels.

I think a lot of people get confused because of footage with Christensen and McGregor having the Mustafar duel against a totally green backdrop. The assumption is that everything inserted behind them must be CG, when as you already mentioned, it isn't. In Mustafar's case they were composited not only against a landscape miniature but actual footage of live volcanos erupting (in addition to the CGI enhancements throughout.)

 

[DinoLast]

Those are just movies. In reality he's an aging, whiney-arsed liberal with an ear ring and a skeleton for a girlfriend.

Tell that to Joe Rogan

 

[Deak Starkiller]

No, they were absolutely filmed. Geonosis and Mustafar (just 2 examples) are almost entirely made up of detailed and scaled model sets that were shot and used in the background of almost every exterior scene taking place on those planets.

Now, of course it was all shot digitally and then crammed with tons of other completely CG elements... but ILM built (and shot) a crap ton of models on the prequels.

Didn't they use more models in ROTS than in TPM and AOTC combined? Just sayin'.

 

[Captain Britain]

No, they were absolutely filmed. Geonosis and Mustafar (just 2 examples) are almost entirely made up of detailed and scaled model sets that were shot and used in the background of almost every exterior scene taking place on those planets.

Now, of course it was all shot digitally and then crammed with tons of other completely CG elements... but ILM built (and shot) a crap ton of models on the prequels.

I keep wishing I lived in an alternative universe where Lucas asked Gary Kurtz to produce the Prequels with him; had them scripted for him by writers like Kasdan or Darabont; hired directors like Irvin Kershner who would actually collaborate with him; and had the effects done using old ILM techniques from the 70's and 80's - miniatures, matte paintings, stop motion animation - to match the style of the original trilogy.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

I keep wishing I lived in an alternative universe where Lucas asked Gary Kurtz to produce the Prequels with him; had them scripted for him by writers like Kasdan or Darabont; hired directors like Irvin Kershner who would actually collaborate with him; and had the effects done using old ILM techniques from the 70's and 80's - miniatures, matte paintings, stop motion animation - to match the style of the original trilogy.

This woman speaks the truth!

 

[Captain Britain]

This man speaks the truth!

Woman, actually.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Woman, actually.

Oh it's a lady! I apologize Cap. I had no idea, sorry .

 

[zombierider]

Let´s hope Shia´s character is not coming back too!!!