Solo: A Star Wars Story

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

If all this is true....they you should be happy to give it up no? I mean maybe sad that the films are not giving you what you want, but now weeks after it’s over and done, you should be happy to walk away...

I can also suggest you can get your SW fix , in the more traditional archetype but reading the comics and watching the animation.




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so you want me to leave? is that it? is this what it is all about? just come up and say it

Yeah that statement made a lot of sense.

Listen not all of us have our balls retract into our bodies any time we see a woman reprimanding a man. You guys would have died in the 70's with Leia mocking and chastising Han during the entire Death Star escape that *she* had to take control of.

it is nice to see that you dont care about the destruction of the white male in the media . real cool with the indoctrination of younger generations

some of us actually worry about what messages are shown to people, thats cool

 

[Spazz]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Yeah that statement made a lot of sense.

Listen not all of us have our balls retract into our bodies any time we see a woman reprimanding a man. You guys would have died in the 70's with Leia mocking and chastising Han during the entire Death Star escape that *she* had to take control of.

That's swell. If only your balls didn't retract when it came time to familiarize yourself with the ideology you're commenting on.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

khev needed to see this

not just khev, people on both sides need to understand this. there’s no reason getting pissed off now, it’s been this way since the renaissance.

 

[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

it is nice to see that you dont care about the destruction of the white male in the media .

I'm not into white male bashing at all but until Oscar Isaac actually turns white I'm not going to worry about it in the context of TLJ, lol.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

so you want me to leave? is that it? is this what it is all about? just come up and say it




it is nice to see that you dont care about the destruction of the white male in the media . real cool with the indoctrination of younger generations

some of us actually worry about what messages are shown to people, thats cool

Awe Crows no no....I love the friendly debates....I was honestly suggesting some material that you wouldn’t have to see those trigger messages....

All cool bro... The Darth Vader Comics are really really good. No political bias I can see , you should check it out.




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[ZaCHw117]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

How to know Spazz is a troll 101: He doesn’t reply to you if proved wrong.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

In all honestly for those who are worried about the messages they see in media....you can always see this stuff, has been that way for the 46 years I have been on the planet....

The left can point out the right wing media....

The right can point out the left....

And centrists, like myself, can see both sides........

I feel for those who feel a beloved story has been corrupted by an agenda.....but not everyone will be bother with it.

My wife is a horse trainer who saves abused horses and rehabilitates them for use in child therapy and finds homes for them....how do you think she viewed the Canto Blight scenes?


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[Spazz]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

yeah, all art is propaganda, paintings, music, movies, etc. are all designed about self expression which is always bias. propaganda is information designed to be persuasive by being biased. the fact that you’re just now figuring that out is why you’re pissy.

The Last Jedi is not the only movie to do this. They all have.

Do you ever bother to learn anything, before commenting on what it is that you're talking about?

"Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented"

Not all books, paintings, movies and television are propaganda, even when they have a specific argument that is political. The difference between Propaganda and politicized fiction, is that propaganda relies on emotional attachment, rather than directing your attention toward experiences that you can learn from. You can easily avoid bias and emotional appeals in creating art, by abandoning idealism. You should abandon idealism anyway, because its irrational.

 

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

not just khev, people on both sides need to understand this. there’s no reason getting pissed off now, it’s been this way since the renaissance.

yes the CIA has been influencing movies since ages ago




but never this blatant

 

[Spazz]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

yes the CIA has been influencing movies since ages ago




but never this blatant

But Crows! Irrational emotional appeals that distort history are inevitable! That's what all art does!

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

You can easily avoid bias and emotional appeals in creating art, by abandoning idealism.

This is the single most un-sound sentence from any of your posts and you know it. Art does not exist in realism, it exist in idealism. To not be able to understand this is a major social flaw and speaks volumes of your personal life. Art evokes emotion, and is designed around it. So is propaganda, they are one in the same.

In fact, propaganda is a form of art.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Clearly he does not understand humans.....


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[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

This is the single most un-sound sentence from any of your posts and you know it.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't...

 

[Caped Baldy]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Is hentai art? Asking for a friend. (hint: caw caw me like Grace)

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Is hentai art? Asking for a friend. (hint: caw caw me like Grace)

 

[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

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[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Hentai is art.... by the definition of art.

the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

Unfortunately ; beauty and emotional power is in the eye of the beholder....and judging by the pure volume of hentai out there.....someone finds it powerful or beautiful.....


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[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

I dont even care if a movie has male hating or really evil male characters as long as the movie is good.... even white male hating is fine if the movie is GOOD.....

Look at the hateful eight, look at reservoir dogs, EVERY tarantino movie has ********* male characters and the women are usually the good guys, Kill Bill is LITERALLY the biggest form of that. Kill bill is LITERALLY about a super hero woman taking down hundreds of evil men until she gets to the most evil man of all.

But those movies were G O O D.............. It's like, Jesus Christ.... Kill Bill was literally about a woman cutting down men in droves because she was SOO powerful that she was basically a superhero while all the men were either evil a holes or completely idiotic dummies
(Like the Restaurant Owner or the sheriff or the guy making the sake)

Kill bill literally starts with the Bride being abused at the hospital and both movies show us just how awful and horrible men can be and how powerful and strong and smart women can be
(Even the female villains are made to be elegant and smart and sophisticated)
Lucy Liu is SO POWERFUL that she literally cuts off a Man's head and takes over the gangs.... she becomes gang leader while keeping her elegance and sophistication....
the duel with Lucy Liu is beautiful and slow coreographed and calculated. they are such amazing swordswomen that their fight is very slow and precise.

Compare that to the way the men fought in the scene before that one, clumsy and aggressive and messy. (Then lets look at how Bill's brother die, the blonde chick humiliates him in death and puts a snake in the money she gave him for the sword.....)

the entire movie is all about women being better than men and men being disgusting awful creatures. and you know what

I LOVE KILL BILL....... you know why? because Quentin Tarantino was smart enough and had enough common sense to make a good story and add some women to the villain list. he also made the villains of different races. sure the movie can be see as "Anti male" but the movie has such an amazing plot and such wonderful fights that you actually end up ROOTING for the Bride to win. you want her to punish those men. she was powerful and strong and beautiful and a badass.
A TRUE HERO. we see her suffer, we see her have moments of weakness, we see her sweat and bleed and get close to losing.

thats a movie im willing to defend at all costs, regardless if it was "anti male" or not. because Quentin wanted to tell a GOOD story, not just pander to the SJW

 

[xipotec]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Mmmmm....Kill Bill might not be the best example of a Feminine film.....

Moonstruck? Pretty damn good film....strong female lead, most the guys in that are pretty lost.

I get what your saying about Tarantino and his over the top message .....


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[Spazz]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

This is the single most un-sound sentence from any of your posts and you know it. Art does not exist in realism, it exist in idealism. To not be able to understand this is a major social flaw and speaks volumes of your personal life.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Art can be abstract, or it can have stipulated meaning as an aesthetic. If you want to communicate ideas, art has to be stipulated. All propaganda communicates ideas, so all propaganda has to be stipulated. That means all propaganda depends on shared sensory datum, in order to function as propaganda. Sensory datum couldn't exist if idealism were true: that reality, or reality as we can know it, is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or otherwise immaterial. You are literally speaking nonsense.

If the artist chooses to communicate an idea, they have to ensure precision in stipulating what they're communicating, appealing to a shared perception (like a dictionary). Otherwise, the art ceases to function as communication. Glibidy gloablmen? Sloabift sjdoiwn!

Art evokes emotion, and is designed around it. So is propaganda, they are one in the same. In fact, propaganda is a form of art.

My table is a piece of furniture, made of wood. My chair is a piece of furniture made of wood, they are the same. Tables are chairs. In fact, a table is a form of chair. Logic!