Solo: A Star Wars Story

[YoNoSe]

Huh huh...”massive organs.”

 

[Prime Clone]

never meant to be little people inside the actual characters of the Saga driving them around like vehicles. FFS I can't believe I actually typed out that last sentence.

Nor can I, and I’m not quite sure how you made that leap. “Microbiotic beings” doesn’t equate to “little people”. My assumption was that the human characters would “commune” with the Whills, not be “driven around by” them.

I’m also curious how it all fits in with Luke being on the island. Maybe the Whills *were* used for communication, projection etc.

 

[jye4ever]

Nor can I, and I’m not quite sure how you made that leap. “Microbiotic beings” doesn’t equate to “little people”. My assumption was that the human characters would “commune” with the Whills, not be “driven around by” them.

I’m also curious how it all fits in with Luke being on the island. Maybe the Whills *were* used for communication, projection etc.

Sorry Prime but...


Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

 

[Prime Clone]

Sorry Prime but...


Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

Thanks for clarifying Jye!

I'm still having trouble distinguishing between Whills and midichlorians (but sounds like George did too). Is one outside and the other in, or both inside?

I'm also still not seeing "little people"...

 

[jye4ever]

Well little “creatures” so insects maybe lol

 

[Prime Clone]

I guess those Clone Wars episodes where Yoda visits the source of The Force might hold some clues?

 

[TaliBane]

Holy crap the people wishing that George Lucas was back in charge.

And check out this tidbit from the Prologue of the Alan Dean Foster 1976 Star Wars novelization (with some story elements pulled from the script, others from George's unfilmed notes):

Looks like Rian Johnson went *way* back for some of his TLJ themes.

"When wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones with greed to match." Sounds a heck of a lot like "Powerful light, powerful dark" or the inverse "Darkness rises, and light to meet it."

And "In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten people's." Hell Leia and Poe almost quoted that sentence verbatim several times in TLJ.

ANOTHER franchise, another time.

The OT was the Saga of legend, greater than distance or time. No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that … it was the OT.

Once, under the wise rule of GL and the protection of the fans, SW throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones who have greed and auteur hubris to match.

So it was with the OT at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, SW rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside at the time of the PT.

Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry execs within the industry, and the massive organ of commerce, the ambitious KK caused herself to be elected President of LFL. She promised to reunite the disaffected among the fans and to restore the remembered glory of the OT.

Once secure in office she declared herself Emperor of SW, shutting herself away from the fans. Soon she was controlled by the very LFL story groups and "filmmaker" boot-lickers she had appointed to high office, and the cries of the true fans for justice did not reach her ears.

Having exterminated through treachery and deception the legitimacy of fans, guardians of the OT in the SW galaxy, the Disney execs and culture bureaucrats prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened fans of the OT. Many used the media forces and the name of the increasingly isolated Mark Hamill to further their own financial and social justice ambitions.

But a "small number" of fans rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring themselves opposed to the New Disney Order they began the great battle to restore the OT.

From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the media systems held in thrall by Disney's Empire. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten fans…

From the Last Saga,
Journal of the Will of the Fans.

"These Fans were in the wrong franchise at the wrong media-conglomerate time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator

So, so, so little needed to be changed.

 

[Khev]

Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

So to rephrase Qui Gon's dialogue; the midichlorians tell the Jedi the will of the Whills.

 

[jye4ever]

So to rephrase Qui Gon's dialogue; the midichlorians tell the Jedi the will of the Whills.

Holy crap lol

 

[screamingmetal]

I'll take George Lucas and his Midichlorians and little Whills over Rian Johnson and his Leia Poppins and cowardly Luke.

At least George understood the Power Of Myth, something that was missing from TLJ.

 

[ajp4mgs]

ANOTHER franchise, another time.

The OT was the Saga of legend, greater than distance or time. No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that … it was the OT.

Once, under the wise rule of GL and the protection of the fans, SW throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones who have greed and auteur hubris to match.

So it was with the OT at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, SW rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside at the time of the PT.

Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry execs within the industry, and the massive organ of commerce, the ambitious KK caused herself to be elected President of LFL. She promised to reunite the disaffected among the fans and to restore the remembered glory of the OT.

Once secure in office she declared herself Emperor of SW, shutting herself away from the fans. Soon she was controlled by the very LFL story groups and "filmmaker" boot-lickers she had appointed to high office, and the cries of the true fans for justice did not reach her ears.

Having exterminated through treachery and deception the legitimacy of fans, guardians of the OT in the SW galaxy, the Disney execs and culture bureaucrats prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened fans of the OT. Many used the media forces and the name of the increasingly isolated Mark Hamill to further their own financial and social justice ambitions.

But a "small number" of fans rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring themselves opposed to the New Disney Order they began the great battle to restore the OT.

From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the media systems held in thrall by Disney's Empire. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten fans…

From the Last Saga,
Journal of the Will of the Fans.

"These Fans were in the wrong franchise at the wrong media-conglomerate time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator

So, so, so little needed to be changed.

EPILOGUE

The heroes' voices could not be muted. Wrestled SW they did, away from the grip of Disney's Empire. And, in time, rightfully restored to his proper throne was the once-mighty GL.

GL expunged the new tales of the Saga and forced upon the masses . . . his Whills. His Whills would forge the ST canon anew. And the Skywalkers, Kenobi, and Yoda were revealed to have been puppets all along, whose strings were pulled by . . . the Whills.

Yes, these once-mighty icons of forging one's own destiny would forever be known as mere vessels of the microbiotic conductors of fate. (And some slapstick droid bits, wretched dialogue, and farting llama-things).

(I hope it's clear that this is all meant in good fun.)

 

[xipotec]

It’s really another example of how OT is lighting in a bottle.

Had GL had his unfettered way, OT would have turned out differently, and possible as bad as PT.

The benefit of tight budget, producer and studio influence....

George has always been a super nerd, and if you give a super nerd total unregulated control, you get PT....

If you give tons of cash and no one with good world building you get ST,

There has to be a way to get back in the middle.-


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[greedo737]

“Or, they could just make a good movie ...”

https://youtu.be/XQmKabdArUg

 

[crows]

“Or, they could just make a good movie ...”

https://youtu.be/XQmKabdArUg

 

[Khev]

I'll take George Lucas and his Midichlorians and little Whills over Rian Johnson and his Leia Poppins and cowardly Luke.

I 100% believe you. And that pretty much perfectly encapsulates the two factions of SW fandom with regard to TLJ and George Lucas. There are those who accept Luke as a complex and flawed character vs. those who would rather he be perfect due to the little men buckled into tiny little pilot chairs inside his brain. I think it's a virtual impossibility that the two groups can ever really see eye to eye across such a divide and why debating the merits of the Saga with someone on the other side is the height of futility...

 

[crows]

I 100% believe you. And that pretty much perfectly encapsulates the two factions of SW fandom with regard to TLJ and George Lucas. There are those who accept Luke as a complex and flawed character vs. those who would rather he be perfect due to the little men buckled into tiny little pilot chairs inside his brain. I think it's a virtual impossibility that the two groups can ever really see eye to eye across such a divide and why debating the merits of the Saga with someone on the other side is the height of futility...

khev would you pay 150 dollars to see a star wars movie if it was exclusively shown ONLY At celebration?
(Like if they made boba fett movie but it cost 150 dollars to watch)

 

[Khev]

khev would you pay 150 dollars to see a star wars movie if it was exclusively shown ONLY At celebration?

Only if Felicity Jones would be sitting in my lap, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

I 100% believe you. And that pretty much perfectly encapsulates the two factions of SW fandom with regard to TLJ and George Lucas. There are those who accept Luke as a complex and flawed character vs. those who would rather he be perfect due to the little men buckled into tiny little pilot chairs inside his brain. I think it's a virtual impossibility that the two groups can ever really see eye to eye across such a divide and why debating the merits of the Saga with someone on the other side is the height of futility...

That movie Lucas was describing already exists it’s called the PT.

 

[crows]

Only if Felicity Jones would be sitting in my lap, lol.

you wouldnt go to an exclusive screening of Boba fett for 150....
and you call yourself a fan........................

 

[ajp4mgs]

If the Whills had been guiding Force-sensitive characters throughout GL's saga, then would the Whills have been compelling Leia to kiss her brother like that? If so, some of these microbiotic little guys might just be creepy pervs!

Great, now I never want to know what happened during Vader's interrogation of Leia in ANH. That's reason enough to say "thanks, but no thanks" to the "will of the Whills." And I'm actually having a hard time coming up with an idea that I would hate more to explain how the Force works.