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[electroshock]

Re: Rogue

Seriously, I wish mine looked like this

Ok but this is NOT the ORIGINAL PIC FROM SIDESHOW!!!!

They CHANGED!!!

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL,NOT ABOVE,THEY CHANGED 3 DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sebastian]

Re: Rogue

The nature of a contract with a credit card company includes payment of debts if a loan is not repaid in the proper timespan. The nature of the contract with Sideshow is that you agree to pay X amount, with 10% upfront, no explicit concerns of interest apart from implicit inflationary issues. The fact that your $30 was not invested elsewhere in that timespan has no bearing on your agreement. Life is full of risk and opportunity costs. If I buy a loaf of bread today, and realize tomorrow that it has mold on it and return it to the store, I lose out on the decreased value of the dollar over the course of a day, but I don't demand that Wal-Mart pay me back 200% interest because I could've gotten that investing on a hot stock.

The only contract you agree to is what is stated when you check out on Sideshow's site. If you decide that the risks are too high, then you shouldn't agree to the deal. Just because you feel you are being jilted doesn't mean that Sideshow is defaulting on a contract.

That is all assuming that they actually shipped out the product that we initially preordered. They did not. I already defined what a contract is. Does this NRD serve any purpose in the production process? Why should loyal consumers be handcuffed into a one sided contract that the other party can default on at any time. It has nothing to do with stock speculation, it has to do with the fact that they failed to deliver the product that we contracted and left a deposit for. My argument to abolish the NRD has merit, it benefits one party only while penalizing the other.

If I paid 10% to a wedding planner to render services 9 months ago and they failed to do so.. there would be an issue of interest. It's the world we live in.

 

[Jedah Kalm]

Re: Rogue

Totally out of context!
I did not say that Sideshow has no fault! But due to the factory sloppy paint in this instance, its is that specific crew in the factory that did a bad job!
Case in point, did you see my Vamp pics? My god!! Now that is a statue with a near perfect paint application. My guess its the same factory!
What happened was the last minute pressures for changes by Disney, coupled with pressures to get these to you in time accumulated to a less than satisfactory paint application. Makes total sense to me.


And about ARH, at this time we have a smaller factory working for us. I am confident that issue such as this was missed one way or another by Sideshow. We are all still finding out the facts little by little. Its really unfortunate but what can Sideshow do, its a done deal? What was done is done, let them learn and move forward. Whatever they have to do they will!! I am sure of it!

Sorry to butt in, I just have a small interjection. You're using the Vampirella Comiquette as an example, and I also have both statues. I also have a particularly bad copy of the Rogue PF. Now, you say that the Rogue PF was rushed to get it out to us. The Vampirella Com was delayed so much that it was nearly a year between pre-order and release. So, why didn't Sideshow take the same care with Rogue? Why was Vampi delayed time and again to make sure that she had an adequate paint job, and not the same for Rogue? Why does a statue with a much smaller ES (Vampi: 1350 total) take much longer to produce than a statue with a higher ES (Rogue: 2250 total)

Yes, a particular group of people were the ones that actually painted the statues, but I can't wrap my head around why Sideshow rushed it to begin with? They've always been known to be a "it's done when it's done" kind of company.

 

[averone]

Re: Rogue

Sorry to butt in, I just have a small interjection. You're using the Vampirella Comiquette as an example, and I also have both statues. I also have a particularly bad copy of the Rogue PF. Now, you say that the Rogue PF was rushed to get it out to us. The Vampirella Com was delayed so much that it was nearly a year between pre-order and release. So, why didn't Sideshow take the same care with Rogue? Why was Vampi delayed time and again to make sure that she had an adequate paint job, and not the same for Rogue? Why does a statue with a much smaller ES (Vampi: 1350 total) take much longer to produce than a statue with a higher ES (Rogue: 2250 total)

Yes, a particular group of people were the ones that actually painted the statues, but Sideshow is to blame for rushing it to begin with.

VAMP = Dynamite ent (less restrictive)
Rogue = Disney

My guess is the last minute changes were put into place by Disney and forced the whole thing to get all screwed up!
Disney told Sideshow, Sideshow told the factory and then we got this!
The final cast was ready and then had to be changed in effect putting the pressure on the paint crew to hurry the whole thing up

Just a guess, my own personal opinion really from deduction and emails, but why dont we find out from the source.
Its all speculation so far till Sideshow comes forward with their solution, as I am sure they will soon.

 

[VS1976]

What a poor decision by SSC!

Ok but this is NOT the ORIGINAL PIC FROM SIDESHOW!!!!

They CHANGED!!!

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL,NOT ABOVE,THEY CHANGED 3 DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!

I don't like how they switch the pics. Instead of resolving the problem, it leaves a very bad impression on me about SSC. I also don't like their explanation that if your not happy return it attitude.

Changing the butt, I can accept. Not resolving the messy paint job from the factory is another thing!

If SSC pulls this stunt again, they are going to lose customers. This is just absolutely ridiculous. What a bloody shame.

 

[VS1976]

Re: Rogue

VAMP = Dynamite ent (less restrictive)
Rogue = Disney

My guess is the last minute changes were put into place by Disney and forced the whole thing to get all screwed up!
Disney told Sideshow, Sideshow told the factory and then we got this!
The final cast was ready and then had to be changed in effect putting the pressure on the paint crew to hurry the whole thing up

Just a guess, my own personal opinion really from deduction and emails, but why dont we find out from the source.
Its all speculation so far till Sideshow comes forward with their solution, as I am sure they will soon.

Geesh Ave, I don't know why you are defending SSC? Changing the butt design doesn't change how to apply paint on a sculpt. No QC check was done. Is it that difficult to ask for a factory sample? The way SSC are handling this mess is not a good PR situation. I am actually offended by the switch the pic on there website yesterday.

In this tough economic times, they better fix how they operate. Continue to do what they do (which is not owning or fixing the problem) may be the downfall of a company.

 

[-jay-]

Re: Rogue

I don't think anyone can defend SSC on this one but i'm interested in seeing what they do for you guys.

 

[Brayzen]

Re: Rogue

I am not too sure what SSC was thinking not disclosing the re-sculpt. I mean the current sculpt is fine it just isn't "as advertised"

Averone can you give any insight on the process with dealing with a factory in China. Can SCC really do anything as far as holding the factory accountable for fixing this issue? I mean if the Chinese factory says no we will not fix it what does SSC do then?

I think someone earlier pointed out people have been excited about adding this to their collection for months now, then they saw it at SDCC and on the net and it raised the excitement and that leads to having an emotional attachment to the item even before you get it.

Such a sad situation money back just doesn't cut it IMO.

Oh and can anyone explain to me why you would change the gallery pics on a sold out item? Is it so they can "un-sold out" it when they get all the returns? Just seems so dishonest to change it now.

 

[electroshock]

Re: Rogue

HOW THE HELL CAN THEY DO THIS ????

AND THIS???!!! its soooo diferent quality control

those pics are from XXPRIVATEXx a good friend in spain

 

[ilikethat69]

Re: Rogue

This is real sad...

 

[VS1976]

Re: Rogue

Possible they ran out of fine tip paint brushes? This is the worst thing I have ever seen from SSC.

 

[-jay-]

Re: Rogue

This one is fantastic in person! The paint is just awesome and that's why it's such a shame when you see paint like on this Rogue.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Re: Rogue

Wow that does highlight the drop in QC but it's not a timeline thing either since Vampirella CQ turned out fantastic. I wonder what happened.

I was one of those that was ecstatic at the thought of having this piece, especially after her stellar showing at SDCC. It's disappointing the final product was so different, you expect some drop in quality from the proto but not to such a shocking degree. Wish they told us about the back end and didn't pull a bait and switch. The change of the gallery pictures after it was shipped was just another kick in the nuts (especially for international customers who have to deal with tax and high shipping costs).

HOW THE HELL CAN THEY DO THIS ????

AND THIS???!!! its soooo diferent quality control

those pics are from XXPRIVATEXx a good friend in spain

 

[ilikethat69]

Re: Rogue

Totally out of context!
I did not say that Sideshow has no fault! But due to the factory sloppy paint in this instance, its is that specific crew in the factory that did a bad job!
Case in point, did you see my Vamp pics? My god!! Now that is a statue with a near perfect paint application. My guess its the same factory!
What happened was the last minute pressures for changes by Disney, coupled with pressures to get these to you in time accumulated to a less than satisfactory paint application. Makes total sense to me.

And about ARH, at this time we have a smaller factory working for us. I am confident that issue such as this was missed one way or another by Sideshow. We are all still finding out the facts little by little. Its really unfortunate but what can Sideshow do, its a done deal? What was done is done, let them learn and move forward. Whatever they have to do they will!! I am sure of it!

Couldnt agree more

 

[thomasbierzynski0524]

Re: Rogue

Rogue got screwed. Our X-men Pf display too.

 

[Sskaaar]

Re: Rogue

Couldnt agree more

Disney requesting the change is BS! That was the board members speculation then all of a sudden it's being use as a reason, excuse for the change with no real info to back it up? Now that's what they are saying because thats what we think happened. But we don't know jack, all we know is that they ef'd up in quality control and that is it. We don't blame the factory, workers, painters even though they were the one working on it. Question is, who gave the approval to ship them out like this?

 

[IronLungs31]

Re: Rogue

Possible they ran out of fine tip paint brushes? This is the worst thing I have ever seen from SSC.

Now we are going to get the chance to see how loyal folks are now to this company. I know after all of this, I see the writing on the wall a little more clearer these days. I know for me, I've lost a little bit of the compassion I had to collect these statues. I'm going to start working my way out of this hobby as we speak. Nothing good is going to come from this, other than they'll pull this again sometime down the road. Then play the switcharoo game with the statues itself, and then switch the proto photos, just so they can say that's what we been advertising all along.

Just out right sicking to think this hobby has came down to a company becoming so SHADY!

 

[Andr3w]

Re: Rogue

Very sad! Lost so much respect for this company. Don't really care how nice their customer service department is, because Sideshow as a whole is just plain ol' crooked nowadays.

I wouldn't go that far..

 

[JosephCPR]

Re: Rogue

Ok but this is NOT the ORIGINAL PIC FROM SIDESHOW!!!!

They CHANGED!!!

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL,NOT ABOVE,THEY CHANGED 3 DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!

I know. I meant that I would settle with the one in the new posted pic. Vamos, que me conformaría con la nueva que han sacado y no con el truño que me ha llegado.

 

[electroshock]

Re: Rogue

1 premium format = 300~350$

This amount saves any quality control

Come on folks! A Xbox 360 with gow3 cost less