Media Star Wars BattleFront

[Cixx]

You are correct in that the campaigns for Battlefield 3 & 4 were terrible. But that is no reason to simply cut it for this title and not even bother trying. What they should be doing is bringing in better people to do the writing etc and really nail a decent campaign. Instead, we are getting another modern game that tells people they don't want to play alone, well news flash, we do. I generally do play multiplayer, but I still enjoy a good campaign. The Force unleashed is a good example of a very memorable game. Plus, not everybody does want to play online at all. I played the originals online a lot, but some of my best memories are from Galactic conquest.






You seem to crop up everywhere just to call everybody else casual gamers. I still don't understand what you are getting from that? I'm sure somebody is impressed somewhere.. in a galaxy far far away maybe.

Anyway, yes, we are very aware that this is a beta with some modes switched off thank you, I don't think anybody has suggested this is the full game. The things we are complaining about mostly have been confirmed as not being in the full game, so why do we need to wait for that to let them know we aren't impressed? I'm not sure how much you expect to be added, but Walker assault is the only mode they have really been banging on about since the start, and it isn't that good tbh. Sure we'll get a few more maps, but I'm bored of the two we have after two days, so I'm not sure the full game will have longevity on its side. And the yes the waves are cut short, but what is a few more waves in a horde mode going to add to the full game really? Horde mode is something you usually see tacked on as a fun little side project, it is no replacement for a proper single player and I doubt many people will be wanting to play it much after a week.

Also, there is no skill needed for this game, I'm not sure what you're talking about there. I've been playing FPS games (casually) for a good 20+ years now, I'm showing my age there. This is quite possibly the least tactical FPS I've ever played in a long time. Spawn (in a terrible place) run around looking for pickups and kill a few other guys, die... Repeat, repeat, repeat. If anything this one is way too casual and aimed more at the younger audience. But is that surprising given EAs stance on games apparently being too difficult these days? errrgh. Having everything as pickups is nonsense, it was much better in the older games where the ships were just placed on the map, it added to the immersion. As for whinging about people asking for a campaign. Well, we aren't all super cool pro gamers like yourself playing in online tournaments all day, some of us hand our hard earned money over to have some "casual" fun and we would like a campaign. Even if you don't need one, you stand to benefit from one being added also so I'm not sure why you care about people asking for one?

I'm most disappointed about the CIS and Republic being stripped out of the game personally, and Galactic conquest/or a campaign. I'll keep being disappointed even when the full game does hit, because save for a miracle, it won't be adding much. Ultimately the game looks good, sounds excellent and plays quite well for the most part, but if it didn't have the Star wars setting tugging at our hearts, would we be impressed? Probably not. It has potential at best, if they add an awful lot more, this could be a superb game I am sure. As it stands, what we know of the full game just seems lazy and bait if anything for future DLC.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yeah competitive FPS is definitely synonymous of casual gaming, at least CoD/Battlefield tier which it's exactly what this is.

I would honestly not even bother with this if it wasn't StarWars, because this is just going to be Battlefield all over again.

 

[WWEJedi]

You seem to crop up everywhere just to call everybody else casual gamers. I still don't understand what you are getting from that? I'm sure somebody is impressed somewhere.. in a galaxy far far away maybe.

Anyway, yes, we are very aware that this is a beta with some modes switched off thank you, I don't think anybody has suggested this is the full game. The things we are complaining about mostly have been confirmed as not being in the full game, so why do we need to wait for that to let them know we aren't impressed? I'm not sure how much you expect to be added, but Walker assault is the only mode they have really been banging on about since the start, and it isn't that good tbh. Sure we'll get a few more maps, but I'm bored of the two we have after two days, so I'm not sure the full game will have longevity on its side. And yes the waves are cut short, but what is a few more waves in a horde mode going to add to the full game really? Horde mode is something you usually see tacked on as a fun little side project, it is no replacement for a proper single player and I doubt many people will be wanting to play it much after a week.

Also, there is no skill needed for this game, I'm not sure what you're talking about there. I've been playing FPS games (casually) for a good 20+ years now, I'm showing my age there. This is quite possibly the least tactical FPS I've ever played in a long time. Spawn (in a terrible place) run around looking for pickups and kill a few other guys, die... Repeat, repeat, repeat. If anything this one is way too casual and aimed more at the younger audience. But is that surprising given EAs stance on games apparently being too difficult these days? errrgh. Having everything as pickups is nonsense, it was much better in the older games where the ships were just placed on the map, it added to the immersion. As for whinging about people asking for a campaign. Well, we aren't all super cool pro gamers like yourself playing in online tournaments all day, some of us hand our hard earned money over to have some "casual" fun and we would like a campaign. Even if you don't need one, you stand to benefit from one being added also so I'm not sure why you care about people asking for one?

I'm most disappointed about the CIS and Republic being stripped out of the game personally, and Galactic conquest/or a campaign. I'll keep being disappointed even when the full game does hit, because save for a miracle, it won't be adding much. Ultimately the game looks good, sounds excellent and plays quite well for the most part, but if it didn't have the Star wars setting tugging at our hearts, would we be impressed? Probably not. It has potential at best, if they add an awful lot more, this could be a superb game I am sure. As it stands, what we know of the full game just seems lazy and bait if anything for future DLC.

Hey, you are the guy that cries about me referring to casual gamers...... you still are....

Definition of casual gamer, which, from many comments I read in this board, a lot of you are.

"A casual gamer is someone who only plays a few games per year. The term "hardcore" is just a bad way of saying "dedicated". "

"A person who plays games but aren't competitive. Usually they are just there to be social and have fun but if they end up losing in the game they wouldn't mind. They don't put in a lot of effort to try to win. They may or may not play long hours of games. A casual gamer doesn't place their gaming as a first priority."

So, maybe now you can understand?

As far as campaign goes, many seem to have a misconception to what is included in this game. There are "Mission Modes" which have different modes such as battles, hero mode, and trials. This is the substitute for campaign, except it is not called campaign. Not sure why you care so much something is not labeled "campaign." The campaigns literally consisted of planet jumping, win the battle and that is pretty much it. Not much of a "campaign" to me when compared to games like Last of Us.

As I said before, EA is gearing it towards everyone to play, but it is not. Majority of matches I played there are about 8 people who know how to play and do good (dedicated gamers) where as the other 30+ players run around being destroyed by the few because they either have no idea what to do or just can't get the game down and end up going 5-16 every single match. Even in Call of Duty every player has his game and does good. From what I played, I have yet to see this.

I agree with the Separatists and Republic forces not being playable. I wish they were, but oh well.

 

[Cixx]

I think video games have simply left me behind. I'm just ****ing terrible now. I had maybe 10 kills and 100 deaths. Everyone just picks me off so easy from across the map. If I do get close I lose EVERY close battle. Just isn't fun.

I am the same way i will be 40 in February. I started with Pitfall and pac-man. Moved on to tyson's punch out and mario. Then Rogue Squadron n64 etc. etc. I come from a different generation than these 12 year olds online telling you to lick their nuts when they pwnz you! It's why i generally hate MP games, unless it's MMO style.


So i made an exception with this game because it's SW. And it's gorgeous. And as bad as i am i'm getting better and i'm of the old mantra practice makes perfect. We will only get better if we stick it out. (that's how these kids/modern 20 year olds do it they play all the time) I'm not saying we gotta dedicate most of our time to it, but to get better some time is required to have fun with out dying a lot. And even if i do die a lot i'm still coming for your *** mother****er WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT. BELIEVE IT!


Maybe some FPS connoisseurs here could put down some tips for us that don't play these type of games all the time. How to aim properly, how to fire properly, maps, etc. etc.. (it can't just be reflexes right?) It seems like i can unload my blaster at someone hit them, and they take damage but don't die. Yet im dead in a hit or two.(and it's not a shield) unless im aiming at their balls! (but damage is damage right)

The only reason i want to be decent at this game is cause SW!

And i still stand by my statement, a fleshed out campaign woulda been nice.

(And i'm glad they made it easy. Believe me when your 40 and time is an issue it's nice to just jump in and play and put your brain away. I don't need to learn a wealth of **** everytime i buy a game) So this will be the game where i get to be decent eventually at MP.

On a side note, we need more SW games period wtf is the hold up should their not be a TFA game in the work$? (or 5 for that matter?)

 

[WWEJedi]

Maybe some FPS connoisseurs here could put down some tips for us that don't play these type of games all the time. How to aim properly, how to fire properly, maps, etc. etc.. (it can't just be reflexes right?) It seems like i can unload my blaster at someone hit them, and they take damage but don't die. Yet im dead in a hit or two.(and it's not a shield) unless im aiming at their balls!

Well.... I can offer some advice.

1. Find a gun you like and get good with it. Figure out its range, how many shots it takes to kill someone, the recoil, how fast it overheats, is it better to burst it or hold the trigger. I use the DLT-19 and after some experimenting with the other guns, I like this one the best.

2. Sensitivity and Reflexes can play a part in being good. Mess with the sensitivity a little. Try it at max, at min, in between, just experiment until you find a setting you like. Reflexes, well, the older you are the harder games are to play, reflexes help, but outplaying your opponent by your map placement or just using your mind to flank, wait to attack, etc... can be your greatest weapon.

3. Play smart, play as if you are really on the battlefield and it is your own life on the line, not just a virtual life. Might be dumb advice, but it works for me. It really depends if you want to have fun or be good or win. Some think it is fun running around trying to get kills and others think it is fun sitting back, playing slow but careful. Some try to win at all costs and some don't care if they win or lose. Some play for K/D. Personally, I hate losing. I rather have no fun and win then have fun and lose. I rather go 5-20 and get objective points and a win then going 20-5 with a lost. So, structure your game around what you want to get out of it.

4. Get a vehicle. Preferably, a AT-ST. Camp the **** out of there spawn points. I trapped the whole team inside a ECHO base exit and just sat there waiting for them to come out. Ended up with 25 kills in five minutes and kept a good chunk of the team occupied from the objective points.

I mean I could go on and on I like talking about game strategy and stuff Not sure what game type you play the most. For me it has been an even split.I like Drop Zone a lot more though. Basically for that game, I always run to the pods and activate those. I find a good spot to sit and defend it the best I can on my side that I am watching. Hope this helped a little.

 

[darthviper107]

Hardly anyone plays/finishes the campaigns in these types of games, actually the data on the amount of people that buy a game vs. how much they actually play of it is pretty sad, so in the interest of getting the multiplayer running well in time for release and avoiding the issues they had with BF4 they decided to cut the part that people weren't really going to play. Sure, it's something I'd have liked, but I'm in the minority. I mostly only played the single player of BF4 and it was 4 hours of terrible, so I understand their reasoning.

 

[user 1190]

Well.... I can offer some advice.

1. Find a gun you like and get good with it. Figure out its range, how many shots it takes to kill someone, the recoil, how fast it overheats, is it better to burst it or hold the trigger. I use the DLT-19 and after some experimenting with the other guns, I like this one the best.

2. Sensitivity and Reflexes can play a part in being good. Mess with the sensitivity a little. Try it at max, at min, in between, just experiment until you find a setting you like. Reflexes, well, the older you are the harder games are to play, reflexes help, but outplaying your opponent by your map placement or just using your mind to flank, wait to attack, etc... can be your greatest weapon.

3. Play smart, play as if you are really on the battlefield and it is your own life on the line, not just a virtual life. Might be dumb advice, but it works for me. It really depends if you want to have fun or be good or win. Some think it is fun running around trying to get kills and others think it is fun sitting back, playing slow but careful. Some try to win at all costs and some don't care if they win or lose. Some play for K/D. Personally, I hate losing. I rather have no fun and win then have fun and lose. I rather go 5-20 and get objective points and a win then going 20-5 with a lost. So, structure your game around what you want to get out of it.

4. Get a vehicle. Preferably, a AT-ST. Camp the **** out of there spawn points. I trapped the whole team inside a ECHO base exit and just sat there waiting for them to come out. Ended up with 25 kills in five minutes and kept a good chunk of the team occupied from the objective points.

I mean I could go on and on I like talking about game strategy and stuff Not sure what game type you play the most. For me it has been an even split.I like Drop Zone a lot more though. Basically for that game, I always run to the pods and activate those. I find a good spot to sit and defend it the best I can on my side that I am watching. Hope this helped a little.

#4. I don't think he asked for in for on how to be an *******.

 

[Scareb]

Nice little trick everyone forgets is something applied in real life. One of the first things we were taught in the army. For moving targets, don't shoot where they are, shoot where they're gonna be. It's called leading the target. If you have a target moving, aim just in front of them and fire. If you miss, either close the distance a little or increase it depending on where your shot lands. Eventually, after lots of practice, you'll be able to hit them without needing test shots.

 

[PermaG]

Apparently ADS (Aim Down Sight) is worthless. It zooms in a little and makes your character walk (slower speed).

No change in recoil, spread, accuracy...so dont waste your time using it.


Since this is Star Wars with lasers, I assume there is no bullet drop, so no need to compensate for it.


The main way I lose in most shooters and then have an easiest time with them, is once you learn the map.
Knowing the map VS someone that doesnt, makes things much easier.


In the end, as much as I have been waiting for a new Battlefront...I still havent been able to bring myself to play it.



fyi, this is a casual game/shooter

 

[myc]

I love this game.. but it aint easy.. I see myself all the time at the button to of the list by the end of the game.. I shoot at people a few times and I get killed after just 1-2 hits.. not sure whys that...

aiming is also somewhat not easy and needs a lot of time to get used to IMO

 

[KitFisto]

Most people ARE casual gamers so the term itself is meaningless. Not everyone is a "pro" gamer with hours and hours to dedicate to playing video games. Most of the best players are 12 year Olds who come home from school and turn on their system for the next 6 hours and do nothing, but game. When I was kid the Atari was a rainy day toy because I'd rather be out playing football with friends. Today, all kids care about is technology.

 

[KitFisto]

I love this game.. but it aint easy.. I see myself all the time at the button to of the list by the end of the game.. I shoot at people a few times and I get killed after just 1-2 hits.. not sure whys that...

aiming is also somewhat not easy and needs a lot of time to get used to IMO

I'm having the exact same issue. I aim and shoot people and when I hit them it takes SEVERAL hits to kill them, but I'm dead in 1 or 2 every time. Then I get killed from three quarters of the way across the map a lot too from people I never see and lastly it NEVER fails that if I look left, someone comes from the right to kill me and if I look right someone comes from the left to kill me with zero time to react.

 

[Python]

Hey, you are the guy that cries about me referring to casual gamers...... you still are....

Definition of casual gamer, which, from many comments I read in this board, a lot of you are.

Yeah, with laughter I am a casual gamer, 99.9% of gamers are. I couldn't care less about you referring to us as such. I just don't see why you being a super pro ninja gamer would give your opinion any more sway than the rest of ours as you seem to think it does is all. This game certainly shouldn't appeal to a hardcore legend like you, it is the most casual shooter I've encountered in years with very little tactics and terrible spawning etc. You seem to have noticed that however seeing as your advice was to find an AT-ST and camp the rebel base, this makes the game so much fun for the rest of us. If this wasn't star wars themed, nobody would look twice at it, we all have our rose tinted specs on, the game needs a lot of work and more content to make it worth anywhere near what they are charging for it.

 

[Kibagami]

I love this game.. but it aint easy.. I see myself all the time at the button to of the list by the end of the game.. I shoot at people a few times and I get killed after just 1-2 hits.. not sure whys that...

aiming is also somewhat not easy and needs a lot of time to get used to IMO

Try flanking the enemy where they're caught unawares.
Avoid 1 on 1 gun fights, the survival rate for that is low.

 

[myc]

I'm having the exact same issue. I aim and shoot people and when I hit them it takes SEVERAL hits to kill them, but I'm dead in 1 or 2 every time. Then I get killed from three quarters of the way across the map a lot too from people I never see and lastly it NEVER fails that if I look left, someone comes from the right to kill me and if I look right someone comes from the left to kill me with zero time to react.

man.. we just to old for this #*)$* I think ! ! hahah ... But year.. the radar thing is also something I can not count on for some reason. And those miles away kills from people that do not even had a rifle.. is just things I dont understand.. HOW ??
I also seam to run and run and just dont find also no enemies until I suddenly got killed from NO IDEA WHERE

I also would love to use a vehicle.. just dont know where to get to opportunity

 

[KitFisto]

man.. we just to old for this #*)$* I think ! ! hahah ... But year.. the radar thing is also something I can not count on for some reason. And those miles away kills from people that do not even had a rifle.. is just things I dont understand.. HOW ??
I also seam to run and run and just dont find also no enemies until I suddenly got killed from NO IDEA WHERE

I also would love to use a vehicle.. just dont know where to get to opportunity

You're speaking my language man LOL.

Every time I fire this up, it's BECAUSE it's Stars Wars and after 1 or 2 matches of going 3-14 and 5-18 I'm back to NHL 16 or Gears of War

 

[myc]

You're speaking my language man LOL.

Every time I fire this up, it's BECAUSE it's Stars Wars and after 1 or 2 matches of going 3-14 and 5-18 I'm back to NHL 16 or Gears of War

Yes..SW is also my only motivation.. its fun . it really is. but I would enjoy it more if I wouldnt suck that much ! we should team up !!!

but year.. I go then back to NBA2k16 to just to make myself feel better

 

[simsim90]

AT-STs are hugely overpowered. I spent almost an entire match in one, 40 kills 6 deaths and over 7000 in score. Literally 2 shots and theyre dead. The multigrenade is epic when they are at a y-wing point and the rocket pretty much instant kills turrets.

 

[Moonloop]

I enjoyed the beta, had a lot of fun. Looking forward to the final game.

 

[WWEJedi]

Most people ARE casual gamers so the term itself is meaningless. Not everyone is a "pro" gamer with hours and hours to dedicate to playing video games. Most of the best players are 12 year Olds who come home from school and turn on their system for the next 6 hours and do nothing, but game. When I was kid the Atari was a rainy day toy because I'd rather be out playing football with friends. Today, all kids care about is technology.

I have to yet to find any 12 year olds that are good at Gears or Call of Duty. Misconception.

I'm having the exact same issue. I aim and shoot people and when I hit them it takes SEVERAL hits to kill them, but I'm dead in 1 or 2 every time. Then I get killed from three quarters of the way across the map a lot too from people I never see and lastly it NEVER fails that if I look left, someone comes from the right to kill me and if I look right someone comes from the left to kill me with zero time to react.

Chances are you are being shot at by multiple people and only see one. So those 1-2 shots you see... there are probably more from your sides or behind you.

Yeah, with laughter I am a casual gamer, 99.9% of gamers are. I couldn't care less about you referring to us as such. I just don't see why you being a super pro ninja gamer would give your opinion any more sway than the rest of ours as you seem to think it does is all. This game certainly shouldn't appeal to a hardcore legend like you, it is the most casual shooter I've encountered in years with very little tactics and terrible spawning etc. You seem to have noticed that however seeing as your advice was to find an AT-ST and camp the rebel base, this makes the game so much fun for the rest of us. If this wasn't star wars themed, nobody would look twice at it, we all have our rose tinted specs on, the game needs a lot of work and more content to make it worth anywhere near what they are charging for it.

Your comprehension skill with regards to words are clearly lacking. Hardcore is a bad way to say dedicated. There are no "hardcore" games on Xbox. I wish you could learn, but I guess you just can't. As for getting a AT-ST and camping the rebel base.... are you one of those people who send hate mail and cry that you lose? The goal is to win, not lay down and die so to the "game so much fun for the rest of us."
As for tactics, maybe you just are not as smart as me or the people I play with. Easy strategy to win Walker Assault every single time. Yes... there are tactics to this game, tactics to every game.

Try flanking the enemy where they're caught unawares.
Avoid 1 on 1 gun fights, the survival rate for that is low.

??? Survival rate is low? You have a 50% chance at killing them.

man.. we just to old for this #*)$* I think ! ! hahah ... But year.. the radar thing is also something I can not count on for some reason. And those miles away kills from people that do not even had a rifle.. is just things I dont understand.. HOW ??
I also seam to run and run and just dont find also no enemies until I suddenly got killed from NO IDEA WHERE
I also would love to use a vehicle.. just dont know where to get to opportunity

When you spawn, the AT-ST power up is right in front of you, you just have to spawn quick and run straight and you should see it. Same goes for the X-Wing, that is to the right from spawn. The A-Wing is in Echo Base and I think there is another one somewhere around the map

AT-STs are hugely overpowered. I spent almost an entire match in one, 40 kills 6 deaths and over 7000 in score. Literally 2 shots and theyre dead. The multigrenade is epic when they are at a y-wing point and the rocket pretty much instant kills turrets.

Yup. AT-ST is sweet.