Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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To be honest the only interest I have in the release of a "Lucas" cut of episode 9 would be that it gets the people behind the sequel trilogy fired and/or the trilogy getting officially removed from the Star Wars universe.
 
The Lucas Cut :lol



I can see it now: George wants more of this...


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What makes the Lucas cut of TROS made up story so ridiculous is that it is premised on the notion that Lucas thinks that there is anything worth building on from the 5 hours of garbage that came before TROS.
If Lucas was not almost 80 and retired I might MIGHT buy that he would want to redo the entire sequel trilogy from the ground up but just TROS???
Like Lucas would be aching to tell stories about Rey and Poe and Finn and Rose...yep...people are lining up to make movies about those exciting, fascinating, and dare I say powerful characters.
Luke, Han, Leia...some of the greatest characters in contemporary cinema...Rey...one of if not THE worst...and Finn and Poe are not too far behind.
 
What makes the Lucas cut of TROS made up story so ridiculous is that it is premised on the notion that Lucas thinks that there is anything worth building on from the 5 hours of garbage that came before TROS.
If Lucas was not almost 80 and retired I might MIGHT buy that he would want to redo the entire sequel trilogy from the ground up but just TROS???
Like Lucas would be aching to tell stories about Rey and Poe and Finn and Rose...yep...people are lining up to make movies about those exciting, fascinating, and dare I say powerful characters.
Luke, Han, Leia...some of the greatest characters in contemporary cinema...Rey...one of if not THE worst...and Finn and Poe are not too far behind.
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As to whether the ST ignores the PT, maybe it does to a point. But the PT is a more distant past than the OT. Also, RJ was a prequel apologist and in TLJ Luke recapped the fall of the Jedi.

Marvel comics, however, have done anything but ignore the PT! Captain Typho joins Sabe in the latest ish...



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As to whether the ST ignores the PT, maybe it does to a point. But the PT is a more distant past than the OT. Also, RJ was a prequel apologist and in TLJ Luke recapped the fall of the Jedi.

Marvel comics, however, have done anything but ignore the PT! Captain Typho joins Sabe in the latest ish...

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Lucas did not want to come out and say that as the explanation for padme's death but Anakin basically chocked her out and snapped her neck- maybe that was too dark for GL idk. For whatever reason GL felt the need to add in that dumb line from the nurse robot "im afraid MR. Kenobi she is dying" Kenobi responds' Dying? how is that possible" Robot Nurse " it appears she has lost the will to live" instead of saying "in vader's anger he snapped her neck and we cannot repair it". Its like George couldn't fully commit to Anakin being bad, so he refused to blame him directly as the cause of her death. Maybe he felt in doing so it would render ROTJ unbelievable since it was the love vader had for his son that brought him back from darkside. It would be much harder sell is that same monster that actually killed his "pregnant" wife and unborn children was not only directly responsible -he snapped her kneck and killed her knowing she was preganat, would all off a sudden care about that child he thought he killed. By having Anakin not be directly responsible for her death, or implying he didn't mean to kill them that seed is still planted that the love for his family especially his children could bring him back
 
BVS sucked so bad. I cannot understand how anyone can tolerate it.

But I have films I like people hate.......

Batman is BvS was totally out of character to me.


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Lucas did not want to come out and say that as the explanation for padme's death but Anakin basically chocked her out and snapped her neck- maybe that was too dark for GL idk. For whatever reason GL felt the need to add in that dumb line from the nurse robot "im afraid MR. Kenobi she is dying" Kenobi responds' Dying? how is that possible" Robot Nurse " it appears she has lost the will to live" instead of saying "in vader's anger he snapped her neck and we cannot repair it". Its like George couldn't fully commit to Anakin being bad, so he refused to blame him directly as the cause of her death. Maybe he felt in doing so it would render ROTJ unbelievable since it was the love vader had for his son that brought him back from darkside. It would be much harder sell is that same monster that actually killed his "pregnant" wife and unborn children was not only directly responsible -he snapped her kneck and killed her knowing she was preganat, would all off a sudden care about that child he thought he killed. By having Anakin not be directly responsible for her death, or implying he didn't mean to kill them that seed is still planted that the love for his family especially his children could bring him back

All of Star Wars is pretty inconsistent anyway.

By the time of ROTJ Anakin was guilty of child murder, war crimes, betraying his best friend, torture, murdering his own officers, and genocide ? including being complicit to the obliteration of an entire populated planet.

Spousal abuse and murder is just one more box to check, for that character. If you look at it clearly there was never any ?redemption? available to a character with that much blood on his hands, and Luke was an idiot for trying.

But Star Wars has nothing to do with reality, so whatever.


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All of Star Wars is pretty inconsistent anyway.

By the time of ROTJ Anakin was guilty of child murder, war crimes, betraying his best friend, torture, murdering his own officers, and genocide ? including being complicit to the obliteration of an entire populated planet.

Spousal abuse and murder is just one more box to check, for that character. If you look at it clearly there was never any ?redemption? available to a character with that much blood on his hands, and Luke was an idiot for trying.

But Star Wars has nothing to do with reality, so whatever.


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I agree that darth vader had to die in the ot, he could never truely redeem himself, in the real sense of the word he had committed too many atrocities, but he could stl save his son. The st ****ed up with ben solo by striping away any accountability for his actions by saying it was all snoke (or palps or ****ing dr who in his head manipulating him) he had really no control over his his actions (Unlike anakin who did he he made his own choice to slice off maces hand) it was just snoke in bens head the whole time then he explicitly kept telling Him to kill han solo his father so he could be a true sith (or in snokes mind rid him of his one weakness that could turn him back to the light), in that sense ben solo did not have to die, he was not evil he was simply a manipulated puppet- he could have been redeemed

Bucky in the mcu is a good example, he was brainwashed like kylo he is not a bad guy he just wasnt in control of his actions, someone else was. Vader on the other hand knew exactly what he was doing, he was in control of his actions, he just lost sight of what he was doing it for
 
BVS sucked so bad. I cannot understand how anyone can tolerate it.

But I have films I like people hate.......

Batman is BvS was totally out of character to me.


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Are you sure your in the right thread, the BVS thread is like 5 doors down on the right side of the main page. Say there is no place like home then click your heals three times and the forum will instantly take your there
 
Id like to point out that one funny element about that doomcock gif is that RJ gets the worst of it. He gets force chocked, slammed into the ceiling then cut in half with the saber lol purely awesome. That couldn't be a coincidence. I think that made me lol the most. then you have kk hiding in the back letting all the directors die in front of here, which is ironic cause she takes no blame for nothing. Sacrifice your directors you evil *****.
 
Actually there is rumors that say that Palpatine(or Anakin himself without him knowing) using sith magic redirect Padme's life force to maintain Anakin alive until he put vader in the suit. Thats why GL edited the scene that way
 
Actually there is rumors that say that Palpatine(or Anakin himself without him knowing) using sith magic redirect Padme's life force to maintain Anakin alive until he put vader in the suit. Thats why GL edited the scene that way

I always really liked this interpretation. It implied that Palpatine wasn't outright lying to Anakin when he said that the dark side could unlock the secret of preventing death (Palps even knew how!). The best lies are most convincing when they have an element of truth to them - however Palpy baby never intended to give up this power especially not to save Padme who was a third party vying for Anakin's attention and loyalty. Anakin's efforts to save Padme literally caused her death and the very power he gave up everything to possess for the purpose of saving her was then used to take her life to save his...

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