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They went with JA Bayona to direct the first 2 episodes on their 15 billion dollar LOTR
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They went with JA Bayona to direct the first 2 episodes on their 15 billion dollar LOTR
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Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
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Khev you little devil lol
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Khev you little devil lol
ST loving rascals the both of you. Better get that whizzed on Rey figure while you can, it's the last one.
Is that a line from Twilight?
Recently, Ninth Circuit Court Judge Kenneth K. Lee ruled over a case involving a battle between ConAgra Foods Inc. and Wesson Oil. Summarising the outcome, the judge unexpectedly referenced the Star Wars sequels, taking aim at the latest two instalments of the franchise.
"Simply put, Richardson - the new owner of Wesson Oil - can resume using the '100% Natural' label at any time it wishes, thereby depriving the class of any value theoretically afforded by the injunction. ConAgra thus essentially agreed not to do something over which it lacks the power to do. That is like George Lucas promising no more mediocre and schlocky Star Wars sequels shortly after selling the franchise to Disney. Such a promise would be illusory."
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-...d-schlocky-in-recent-ruling-a185304#gs.2fiwbu
"Simply put, Richardson - the new owner of Wesson Oil - can resume using the '100% Natural' label at any time it wishes, thereby depriving the class of any value theoretically afforded by the injunction. ConAgra thus essentially agreed not to do something over which it lacks the power to do. That is like George Lucas promising no more mediocre and schlocky Star Wars sequels shortly after selling the franchise to Disney. Such a promise would be illusory."
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-...d-schlocky-in-recent-ruling-a185304#gs.2fiwbu
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Khev, I can understand your hatred you have for me. After all, I destroyed all your arguments with facts and logic and continue to do so as more and more information is released backing up my side. But deaf ears? From the guy who STILL thinks the ST had a plan? After JJ said it didn?t. Hell I was so right I have jal, where we usually disagree with each other and have some fun back and forths, agree with me too! You are so wrong you unite ?rivals?
Regardless, I?ll be destroying these arguments shortly. Damn it feels good to be back in the ST combat arena!
As I have predicted. Good to see yet another toy executive crap all over the ST.
HAVE YOU FELT IT? THERE HAS BEEN AN AWAKENING. THE RETCON IS COMING
Who is Malgus?
Ha ha we are finally United on the most important matter that these threads face, recognizing that the sequel trilogy is hot garbage!
At one time, Star Wars success was pop culture legend... now its failures are pop culture references. Star Wars has lived long enough to become the villain.
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At one time, Star Wars success was pop culture legend... now its failures are pop culture references. Star Wars has lived long enough to become the villain.
Star Wars is dead.
You can visit its grave by watching Season 1 of The Mandalorian.
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Tragic that Star Wars is being kept on life support by simply going viral with a character that is really not much more than a cute meme designed to sell Funko Pops.
The film franchise that changed cinema forever is now just that one TV SHOW with Baby Yoda.
How the mighty have fallen.
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a-dev's answer pretty much covers how I perceived Kenobi and Yoda's isolated existences...
... but I'd like to add some things on Kenobi. Movie dialogue is pretty much all I had in the OT days to decipher what Kenobi's history, current state of mind, and general purpose was. Most of the relevant dialogue took place during that one scene at his residence. Each line there added a puzzle piece which helped me form an overall picture.
"I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father."
The key here is the past tense of "was once." That implied that whatever a Jedi Knight was, Obi-Wan was retired from duty.
"I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself."
This line told me that Obi-Wan kept an interest in Luke because of his prior friendship with Anakin. And a bit earlier, he told Luke that Owen thought Anakin "should've stayed here and not gotten involved." This suggests that Anakin, Owen, and Kenobi all lived on Tatooine before any involvement in what was referred to as "the Clone Wars." Owen stayed, and Anakin followed his friend Obi-Wan into service. We know this because...
"Your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade, like your father did."
Obi-Wan was the idealistic one; the one who motivated Anakin to join the cause. This makes it easy to understand if Kenobi had regrets. If not for his influence, Owen wouldn't have lost a brother (in-law?), and Luke wouldn't have lost a father.
"I need your help, Luke. She needs your help. I'm getting too old for this sort of thing."
Kenobi still believed in "the cause," but he couldn't do it alone. He obviously felt that the Rebellion was important enough to go risk his life for. When the Leia hologram said that survival of the Rebellion depended on this mission, Kenobi had no choice but to be forced back into action. And it was *this* that motivated him to train Luke. It got an added layer when we later found out that Kenobi knew Leia was Luke's sister.
"You must do what you feel is right, of course."
Kenobi wouldn't have insisted that Luke leave Owen to learn about the Force. But fate stepped in when the Lars couple was killed and Luke's obligations ended there on Tatooine.
To me, it didn't seem back then that Kenobi was hanging out waiting for Luke to bring peace and liberty back to the galaxy. This is supported by the fact that Yoda didn't want to train Luke (too old, and too much like his father). If age was an issue, there's no way 20 years would've gone by before introducing this prodigy to the Force and a heroic destiny. It was the urgency of Leia's message that motivated the training to begin. And after destroying the Death Star, Luke showed enough promise to perhaps be reason to hope for the Empire's defeat.
I'll spare you yet another diatribe about how the PT reframed everything. For now.
Great points a-dev and ajp, I totally agree.
Both Obi-Wan and Yoda seemed partially resigned to the current status quo of the galaxy, wishing things were different but not willing to force people to do what they didn't want to do or even encourage willing people to act if they weren't qualified for the task. Yoda's dialogue in ESB even heavily suggests that Luke was at best Yoda's *second* choice to defeat the Emperor with the "other" being his first choice. But the other was far away (or not yet born) and Luke was right here and willing so...against Yoda's preferences he agreed to train Luke.
Which is just another reason I have absolutely no problem with the latter's fall from grace years later in TLJ. In the PT Yoda was the one Master who didn't want Anakin to be trained and in the OT he didn't want to train Luke. Both times Yoda's misgivings ended up being valid at one point or another. I know there are many fans who wanted Luke to forever be the "Bestest Jedi EVAR" after ROTJ but I never got the impression that that would be his path after ROTJ.
He was just going to be the *only* Jedi for a time and training a new generation without the influence of the Sith. Kind of easy to be the "best" under such circumstances. But even as his mastery of the Force grew he remained the same flawed human who would always need to be vigilant of his own recklessness and later hubris. For me it totally works, for those whom is doesn't well you have cartoon Luke hacking droids in Mando. Everyone wins.
Both Obi-Wan and Yoda seemed partially resigned to the current status quo of the galaxy, wishing things were different but not willing to force people to do what they didn't want to do or even encourage willing people to act if they weren't qualified for the task. Yoda's dialogue in ESB even heavily suggests that Luke was at best Yoda's *second* choice to defeat the Emperor with the "other" being his first choice. But the other was far away (or not yet born
) and Luke was right here and willing so...against Yoda's preferences he agreed to train Luke.Which is just another reason I have absolutely no problem with the latter's fall from grace years later in TLJ. In the PT Yoda was the one Master who didn't want Anakin to be trained and in the OT he didn't want to train Luke. Both times Yoda's misgivings ended up being valid at one point or another. I know there are many fans who wanted Luke to forever be the "Bestest Jedi EVAR" after ROTJ but I never got the impression that that would be his path after ROTJ.
He was just going to be the *only* Jedi for a time and training a new generation without the influence of the Sith. Kind of easy to be the "best" under such circumstances. But even as his mastery of the Force grew he remained the same flawed human who would always need to be vigilant of his own recklessness and later hubris. For me it totally works, for those whom is doesn't well you have cartoon Luke hacking droids in Mando. Everyone wins.
I'll spare you yet another diatribe about how the PT reframed everything. For now.
Oh boy did it reframe things. The PT bears out almost none of that dialogue. Now Obi-wan just made all that stuff up - some of it totally superfluous as far as what he really needed to convey to Luke. So he wasn't just lying but really going to town with it.
Old Ben: "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father."
Luke: "Hmm, and what's that?"
Old Ben: "Your father's lightsaber--"
Old Ben thinking to himself: *oh what the hell, in for a penny, in for a pound..."
"--and your father really wanted you to have it. He said those exact words to your uncle."
*what am I doing, for what purpose am I saying these lies*
"I'm getting too old to fight, and your father absolutely adored sand--"
*may the Force forgive me I can't stop*
"--Did I ever tell you about Yoda, my ONE master? AHHHHH, AIIIIEEEEEEEE!" *runs out of hut and leaps off cliff in order to stop himself from lying any further*
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...Yoda's *second* choice to defeat the Emperor with the "other" being his first choice. But the other was far away (or not yet born
Kind of easy to be the "best" under such circumstances.
And as the PT proved, Yoda has terrible judgment and is more often wrong than he is right. He's more of a 'this will do for now' kind of creature. Of course liar Kenobi would recommend such a mediocre tutor for Luke. No wonder Luke is so messed up.
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Old Ben: "Darth Vader betrayed on murdered your father."
Luke: "Hmm, and what's that?"
Old Ben: "Your father's lightsaber--"
Old Ben thinking to himself: *oh what the hell, in for a penny, in for a pound..."
"--and your father really wanted you to have it. He said those exact words to your uncle."
*what am I doing, for what purpose am I saying these lies*
"I'm getting too old to fight, and your father absolutely adored sand--"
*may the Force forgive me I can't stop*
"--Did I ever tell you about Yoda, my ONE master? AHHHHH, AIIIIEEEEEEEE!" *runs out of hut and leaps off cliff in order to stop himself from lying any further*
He didn't need to say this stuff! It should have been ''This is your father's Lightsaber....there ye go. You can have that now'' No further elaboration required. Well, maybe some instructions on wtf a lightsaber does, some do's and don'ts, safety tips and the like.
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