Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

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crows, you da man! That's awesome. I'm gonna laugh all night.

If I ever said anything mean to you, I didn't mean it.

credit goes to khev for coming up with the joke lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yes, but khev knows he's funny.

But Khev's was a classic come-back. So was Jye's a-dev x-wing explosion. Those TLJ guys are funny.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

alright

I never saw that movie but at least shes human lol

At least it's not this.

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Imagine what this guy has seen.

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Prime Clone and Bravomite:

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Oh boy that made me laugh haha!

I really enjoyed the pod racing sequence TPM and spent many many hours playing the game! Ben Quadrinaros (Prime Clone to you and I) actually had the fastest pod in the game ... I can only imagine that if Prime Clone had managed to get his pod started during the Boonta Eve Classic that it might have totally scuppered Qui-Gon's little wager. I suspect foul play from Sebulba (so much world building in the PT ... A feast for the imagination haha).

I wonder who Khev and Jye would be in the ST ...

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Your countless and inventive fansplaining theories and 24/7 dedicated TLJ defence service has earned you the rank of Rian's force nuns (if I could do gifs it would have been the one of Rey squishing your cart).

I didn't forget you Junkion (you come from the same place as the Achto Bros but your a bit more like their lovable friendly mascot)

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Jaws ... After recent revelations you must know who you are, playing off both sides - there is only blind support or hatred for TLJ there is no middle ground haha

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Jaws ... After recent revelations you must know who you are, playing off both sides - there is only blind support or hatred for TLJ there is no middle ground haha

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This thread has really lightened up since I am not fighting with Jye and Khev all the time :lol




Well played Crows with the Avatar :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well while I do prefer TLJ to TFA i’m still all about the OT aesthetics so here’s hoping Solo is not only as good as RO but that it actually improves upon it with a few more layers of character building.

I’m ok if they leave the rebellion/rebel fleet out of it but then pump up the bounty hunters
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

A very important article. An excerpt:

"The Last Jedi" and the Politicization of Storytelling

*Writer-director Rian Johnson believes division was inevitable if Star Wars was to “grow, move forward and stay vital.”


There’s been a disturbance in the franchise: Ambivalence, rather than anticipation, has characterized the online response to Disney’s announcement of the deluge of new Star Wars projects we are to be saturated with over the next several years. And while the trailer for Solo: A Star Wars Story (scheduled for May) was expected to be received with some misgiving, many fans are actively rooting for it to flop.

The origin of this disturbance is not difficult to pinpoint: Until a few months ago, Disney had nimbly sidestepped any serious divergence in the fan base of the IP it acquired for $4 billion. But that changed dramatically with the release of the most recent installment.

Indeed, the biggest twist of The Last Jedi wasn’t in the film itself but in its audience reception. Though its commercial profitability was always comfortably assured, its revenue disparity with The Force Awakens is the steepest sequel-to-sequel decline on record and its second-week box office plunge is the biggest in history. In China, Hollywood’s largest overseas market, the film took a blistering 94 percent nosedive after the first week and was pulled from theaters with less than half its predecessor’s earnings.

*Archetypes and the mythic storytelling form never lose relevance. They are timeless and universal.

First, the 1977 original, far from accommodating the cultural climate of its time, was tonally counter-cultural. Its clear-cut portrayal of good versus evil eviscerated the moral relativism of 70s cinema. Its hopeful optimism was an antidote to post-Vietnam nihilism. It was a conscious throwback that paid homage to the sci-fi adventure serials Lucas grew up with.

Secondly, the reasons for its enduring appeal have eluded Johnson entirely. How has the original trilogy remained such a cultural touchstone? Why are studios still making films in its shadow after so many decades?

One reason is that archetypes and the mythic storytelling form never lose relevance. They are timeless and universal. By contrast, loading a film with political messaging for 2018, using it as a vessel to comment on current events, makes its relevance transient. Ironically, Johnson’s attempt to “update” the saga is precisely what caused his entry to feel dated at an accelerated pace.

*If all the consternation is an objection to minority characters and strong female protagonists, why does its predecessor enjoy such high audience ratings?

One conspicuous difference is that The Force Awakens’ diverse cast played characters integral to its story, whereas, in The Last Jedi, characters are shoehorned in with no discernable purpose other than demographic representation. The most glaring example of this is Rose Tico, played by Vietnamese-American actress Kelly Marie Tran: Her entire subplot (helping Finn find a codebreaker) ends up having no subsequent significance or narrative payoff, and the rest of her time on screen is barely less superfluous.

If such perfunctory tokenism and pandering to vapid identity politics are what is meant by “diversity” then certainly, that was one aspect of The Last Jedi which drew criticism.

*Its shallow identity politics reflect a cultural hegemony adrift from deeper moorings.

https://fee.org/articles/the-last-jedi-and-the-politicization-of-storytelling/
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Star Wars was one of the few movie franchises which did not need to embrace the current obsession with race and sex.
It was already culturally diverse - it always was. It already had strong female characters and leaders. Movie icons as such.

TLJ pushes all that into trashy social media correctness and in many ways undid all the good work that Lucas had achieved in diversity in tentpole fantasy movie making. He created characters that were well rounded and part of the storyline - not cardboard facades- cut-outs shoe-horned into a script.

Leia, Lando, Mon Mothma, James E-Jones - The Empire was fascist white supremism. The bad guy.

Disney or Kennedy - who knows which or both - have pushed it into ridiculous territory now.
RO: Female lead.
TFA: Female lead with secondary character a black actor.
TLJ: Female lead, with 2 of the other main characters strong women - all the men were faulted-weak or untrustworthy.
Watch those scenes with Poe and Leia and Holdo- it’s like they counted the number of men and women in each scene- that’s counter productive to equality or diversity. For gods sake don’t become the thing you want to fight.
Write good female characters -use ethnic diversity in a natural way that fits the story.

And now we have a female droid in Solo - who “fights for droid rights”

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It's not like Lando was a smooth talking ex-criminal in a pimp outfit. And his elaborate backstory, my goodness such depth. How could they ruin all of that leg work?
 
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C’mon for the time that it was made in the early eighties- that was a huge ****ing deal - it was a statement culturally.
And he was painted in exactly the same light as Ford. Two dodgy friends with a less than respectable past. Both became heroes. Painting him as a person of questionable character was much braver than creating a squeaky clean black hero.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

C’mon for the time that it was made in the early eighties- that was a huge ****ing deal - it was a statement culturally.
And he was painted in exactly the same light as Ford. Two dodgy friends with a less than respectable past. Both became heroes. Painting him as a person of questionable character was much braver than creating a squeaky clean black hero.

Exactly my point. Products of their time.
 
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