Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I'll take a Team Khev (L) t-shirt only of it comes with his smiling face on the front.
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Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
With Khev next to Felicity in a Khev t-shirt also.I'll take a Team Khev (L) t-shirt only of it comes with his smiling face on the front.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Yea many SW fans look at the PT with rose colored glasses. But its often not their fault as they may have been young and impressionable .
As you age you will become a cynic about the films, and then as you age further you will realize no film franchise should be held to such standards as SW is, and you learn once again how to just have fun watching a film without judging every frame and posting your discourse on how it ruined society on every social media platform available.
These films have ranged from excellent to down right cringeworthy....its all in our heads if we decide to allow it to “ruin” any fun we have had or will have in the future.
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Yea many SW fans look at the PT with rose colored glasses. But its often not their fault as they may have been young and impressionable .
As you age you will become a cynic about the films, and then as you age further you will realize no film franchise should be held to such standards as SW is, and you learn once again how to just have fun watching a film without judging every frame and posting your discourse on how it ruined society on every social media platform available.
These films have ranged from excellent to down right cringeworthy....its all in our heads if we decide to allow it to “ruin” any fun we have had or will have in the future.
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
His first post shows an out-of-focus Finn and Chewie actor. Does this mean Finn has been restored to primary-character status?
It was George Lucas trying to do something different, while maintaining the SW feel. As you know he largely succeeded for me, but obviously not for everyone.
Same goes for the OT. I can't quantify how much my love of the OT is based on nostalgia, but I will concede I like the PT mainly because it provides a backstory for the OT.
His first post shows an out-of-focus Finn and Chewie actor. Does this mean Finn has been restored to primary-character status?
It was George Lucas trying to do something different, while maintaining the SW feel. As you know he largely succeeded for me, but obviously not for everyone.
Same goes for the OT. I can't quantify how much my love of the OT is based on nostalgia, but I will concede I like the PT mainly because it provides a backstory for the OT.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I want to love the PT.....
I really do...but I just cant. These days I cant even bring myself to watch TPM due to Jake Lloyds acting and Gungans.
AOTC I stopped watching before that, for so many reasons but bad CGI, horrible production and stupid plot were the main ones.
I still like ROTS , for the most part. The production was decent and the story was not to ham fisted, although much of it feels rushed.
With ST , the production was great, as are the effects and acting. So your left with do you like the story? I do. Its a bit thin for the most part, but SW was never Shakespear. My guess is that I will be watching ST much longer than PT.
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I want to love the PT.....
I really do...but I just cant. These days I cant even bring myself to watch TPM due to Jake Lloyds acting and Gungans.
AOTC I stopped watching before that, for so many reasons but bad CGI, horrible production and stupid plot were the main ones.
I still like ROTS , for the most part. The production was decent and the story was not to ham fisted, although much of it feels rushed.
With ST , the production was great, as are the effects and acting. So your left with do you like the story? I do. Its a bit thin for the most part, but SW was never Shakespear. My guess is that I will be watching ST much longer than PT.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Man did you hit the nail on the head.
Put it this way.
Even WITH the Mary Poppins moment with Leia I can still easily watch the ST as real films with real feeling drama where with the PT I can barely sit thru them alone because I literally feel embarrassed while watching them FORGET experiencing the PT with others that was torturous with people pointing at the screen and laughing at it so hell no never again!
I just feel uneasy watching them they’re like really bad cartoons or something.
Man did you hit the nail on the head.
Put it this way.
Even WITH the Mary Poppins moment with Leia I can still easily watch the ST as real films with real feeling drama where with the PT I can barely sit thru them alone because I literally feel embarrassed while watching them FORGET experiencing the PT with others that was torturous with people pointing at the screen and laughing at it so hell no never again!
I just feel uneasy watching them they’re like really bad cartoons or something.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
jye the next time your wife has guests over I dare you to just be sitting by yourself watching AOTC when they enter the room, lol.
jye the next time your wife has guests over I dare you to just be sitting by yourself watching AOTC when they enter the room, lol.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
My mother in law still asks my wife....”Umm does he still like childrens movies?”
My mother in law still asks my wife....”Umm does he still like childrens movies?”
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Agreed!
For me, the PT was a little like watching family members get so embarrassingly drunk that you lose a little respect for them based on just how goofy and humiliating it got. Yeah, it can be entertaining on certain levels; but ultimately I'd just prefer that I'd never seen it.
By contrast, the ST has been somewhat like when friends started having kids and settled into the "family man" role. Sure, maybe it's not as cool as it used to be - and a lot of the ongoing connection is based on the good ol' days - but there's still some value in it without being humiliated by the changes.
I still have visions of bumbling Jar-Jar, saying something cringey, haunting me every now and then. And Boss Nass. And little Ani. And that wretched Anakin courting Padme dialogue/acting. And the Vader scream. And the twirling lightsabers as if Kenobi and Anakin had entered a girls' high school ribbon contest. Just . . . please, MAKE IT STOP!!!
Man did you hit the nail on the head.
Put it this way.
Even WITH the Mary Poppins moment with Leia I can still easily watch the ST as real films with real feeling drama where with the PT I can barely sit thru them alone because I literally feel embarrassed while watching them FORGET experiencing the PT with others that was torturous with people pointing at the screen and laughing at it so hell no never again!
I just feel uneasy watching them they’re like really bad cartoons or something.
Agreed!
For me, the PT was a little like watching family members get so embarrassingly drunk that you lose a little respect for them based on just how goofy and humiliating it got. Yeah, it can be entertaining on certain levels; but ultimately I'd just prefer that I'd never seen it.
By contrast, the ST has been somewhat like when friends started having kids and settled into the "family man" role. Sure, maybe it's not as cool as it used to be - and a lot of the ongoing connection is based on the good ol' days - but there's still some value in it without being humiliated by the changes.
I still have visions of bumbling Jar-Jar, saying something cringey, haunting me every now and then. And Boss Nass. And little Ani. And that wretched Anakin courting Padme dialogue/acting. And the Vader scream. And the twirling lightsabers as if Kenobi and Anakin had entered a girls' high school ribbon contest. Just . . . please, MAKE IT STOP!!!
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
How your wife sees you when she catches you watching the MCU:
How your wife sees you when she catches you watching the PT:
How your wife sees you when she catches you watching the MCU:
How your wife sees you when she catches you watching the PT:
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Damn that’s a mighty fine post there by ajp4ever.
There are members here who literally hated TLJ because a female actress had a big nose I kid you not
Damn that’s a mighty fine post there by ajp4ever.
There are members here who literally hated TLJ because a female actress had a big nose I kid you not
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Wow man, that might be the most perfect analogy of watching the PT vs. the ST yet!
Wow man, that might be the most perfect analogy of watching the PT vs. the ST yet!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
Thanks. And thank you for the subliminal name change, jye4mgs.
Thanks, Khev. I was going to be much harsher with the PT analogy, but discretion probably served me better.
Thanks. And thank you for the subliminal name change, jye4mgs.
Wow man, that might be the most perfect analogy of watching the PT vs. the ST yet!
Thanks, Khev. I was going to be much harsher with the PT analogy, but discretion probably served me better.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
No no no. I hated TLJ cause it's the cinematic equivalent of a baby's diaper after eating Indian food.
Toucan Sam lady was just one small moment of brilliance in an otherwise garbage movie. How can anyone hate the nose lady? She's amazing. So artistic. The light...the shadow. It's the theme of the movie right there on her face. The light awakens....her nose arises to bring it back into darkness. It rhymes. It's poetry.
Does wookieepedia say what species she's supposed to be?
Hope she gets a bigger role in Ep 9.....maybe her and Rose can go on a side story together instead of Finn. Or better yet, she hears a tapping on the glass....it's Admiral Holdo in space, holding her breath, trying to get in. She shatters the glass with her nose and everyone rejoices. End credits.
No no no. I hated TLJ cause it's the cinematic equivalent of a baby's diaper after eating Indian food.
Toucan Sam lady was just one small moment of brilliance in an otherwise garbage movie. How can anyone hate the nose lady? She's amazing. So artistic. The light...the shadow. It's the theme of the movie right there on her face. The light awakens....her nose arises to bring it back into darkness. It rhymes. It's poetry.
Does wookieepedia say what species she's supposed to be?
Hope she gets a bigger role in Ep 9.....maybe her and Rose can go on a side story together instead of Finn. Or better yet, she hears a tapping on the glass....it's Admiral Holdo in space, holding her breath, trying to get in. She shatters the glass with her nose and everyone rejoices. End credits.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I know it's the accepted, default, fall-back position held by many PT critics, but that certain characters were "made lame" by the background stories seems to me mostly a matter of taste and understanding.
IMHO, taking as examples the characters you cited...
Anakin: an innocent boy born into slavery, whisked away from his mother, thrust into a religious order that is cold and distant, mentored by a young master with too little experience to control him and guide him, mistrusted and shunned by some of the superiors he looks up to, and who at the end succumbs to the emotions his mentors never taught him to control.
While some of the execution isn't that good, the background itself is far from lame. It actually has depth and heart.
C3PO: really, who cares? It's a damn robot... who cares about its background? Would it have been more interesting to show the factory he came from? Having him be the creation of Anakin is just another part of the cyclical themes of SW.
Boba Fett: Jango Fett is a fine character, and the fact that Boba Fett is a clone and acts like a boy while being a boy... well, I suppose there was no need to show where Boba Fett came from, but it certainly is an interesting background story: the son of a bounty hunter who saw his own father beheaded by the Jedi... talk about a guy with a grudge and with good reasons to like the Empire.
Obi Wan: He was always shown to be somewhat loose with his understanding of "the truth"... nothing new there. In fact, the portrayal of how he failed to understand and guide Anakin made the old man Ben so much more enjoyable and gave the character so much more depth. You finally understand his willingness to sacrifice himself in order to right a wrong.
Yoda: again, we get to see how and why such a powerful Jedi Master could fail so utterly, and we understand the reasons for his exile. Hypocrite? I see him more as blinded by hubris and misguided. He became a fallible being, not just an old hermit.
I suppose I'm more of the type of person who cares about where the characters go to, how they grow, who they become... I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care so much about where you came from, but where you're going.
So you didn't like Vader as a teenager, acting like most teenagers act... so what? Despite that, he became the badass super-villain!
But with the ST... Han and Leia, two star-crossed lovers... they got divorced and couldn't raise their kid? Luke changed from the man who would die before striking down his defenseless father (a man known for being a mass-murderer and who tortured his own daughter) to the man who contemplated murdering his sleeping nephew on the suspicion that he would turn to the dark side?
You see, finding out about an unsavory past doesn't change the present accomplishments, but destroying the future, well...
That is one of the main problems with the ST. These movies destroyed what was achieved with unimaginable sacrifice and heartbreak in the first six.
IMHO.
I know it's the accepted, default, fall-back position held by many PT critics, but that certain characters were "made lame" by the background stories seems to me mostly a matter of taste and understanding.
IMHO, taking as examples the characters you cited...
Anakin: an innocent boy born into slavery, whisked away from his mother, thrust into a religious order that is cold and distant, mentored by a young master with too little experience to control him and guide him, mistrusted and shunned by some of the superiors he looks up to, and who at the end succumbs to the emotions his mentors never taught him to control.
While some of the execution isn't that good, the background itself is far from lame. It actually has depth and heart.
C3PO: really, who cares? It's a damn robot... who cares about its background? Would it have been more interesting to show the factory he came from? Having him be the creation of Anakin is just another part of the cyclical themes of SW.
Boba Fett: Jango Fett is a fine character, and the fact that Boba Fett is a clone and acts like a boy while being a boy... well, I suppose there was no need to show where Boba Fett came from, but it certainly is an interesting background story: the son of a bounty hunter who saw his own father beheaded by the Jedi... talk about a guy with a grudge and with good reasons to like the Empire.
Obi Wan: He was always shown to be somewhat loose with his understanding of "the truth"... nothing new there. In fact, the portrayal of how he failed to understand and guide Anakin made the old man Ben so much more enjoyable and gave the character so much more depth. You finally understand his willingness to sacrifice himself in order to right a wrong.
Yoda: again, we get to see how and why such a powerful Jedi Master could fail so utterly, and we understand the reasons for his exile. Hypocrite? I see him more as blinded by hubris and misguided. He became a fallible being, not just an old hermit.
I suppose I'm more of the type of person who cares about where the characters go to, how they grow, who they become... I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care so much about where you came from, but where you're going.
So you didn't like Vader as a teenager, acting like most teenagers act... so what? Despite that, he became the badass super-villain!
But with the ST... Han and Leia, two star-crossed lovers... they got divorced and couldn't raise their kid? Luke changed from the man who would die before striking down his defenseless father (a man known for being a mass-murderer and who tortured his own daughter) to the man who contemplated murdering his sleeping nephew on the suspicion that he would turn to the dark side?
You see, finding out about an unsavory past doesn't change the present accomplishments, but destroying the future, well...
That is one of the main problems with the ST. These movies destroyed what was achieved with unimaginable sacrifice and heartbreak in the first six.
IMHO.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
I did not go to WDW until I was 30, which was a couple of years before the Star Tours update. Watching the film for that ride, for the first time at that age, was mind-blowing.
I did not go to WDW until I was 30, which was a couple of years before the Star Tours update. Watching the film for that ride, for the first time at that age, was mind-blowing.
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