Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019
So, you're saying that it's better to have Rey use the Force to defeat Kylo when she's confused by it, and when it's all like "instinct"? So, mind-controlling Stormtroopers doesn't need to be a learned skill? Just . . . instinct? Reaching out for a lightsaber and having it fly into your hand is fine if it's . . . defense/instinct? I don't know how long Luke was with Yoda (but I like that he apparently kept taking the time to shave every single day even though it was just he and Yoda on a swamp planet), but he was lifting rocks (and R2, and boxes) while doing a handstand. If you're okay with Rey's "instincts" being a good enough explanation for her mind trick powers, lightsaber pulling, and Kylo-defeating ways in TFA, I find it odd that lifting rocks and beating Praetorian Guards in TLJ is what you have a problem with.
Wrong. Go back and watch what Han says to Rey and Finn about Luke's reason for abandoning everyone and everything. "He felt responsible" for what happened with Kylo and "walked away from everything" (or something to that effect).
Wrong. Kylo was being seduced by Snoke long before Luke lit that lightsaber in Ben's hut. You might want to watch both films again; the answers are there.
With respect I think you are missing the point on the whole training time discussion and allow me to elaborate.
Let's begin by imagining what would happen if Luke from TESB faced down against Rey from TLJ or even TFA? Surely everyone can agree that would be no contest and Luke would be annihilated.
How can we know this... Well let's analyse and compare TESB Luke's ability and TLJ Rey's ability in lightsabre combat and mastery / use of the force after each receives their training / instruction in their respective movies.
When Luke confronted Vader it was a very one sided affair. Vader was toying with Luke, we know this because he adopted a completely different fighting stance against Luke compared to Obi-wan in ANH (two handed, probing but guarded against the Jedi master but one handed, very much in control aggressor with Luke).
We learn that Vader was impressed that Luke had some rudimentary mastery of the force (e.g. the force jump) and had some instruction in basic lightsabre techniques and form. However, it always felt like Vader was moving the fight along, gently testing Luke first by sparring against him with the lightsabre and then through use of the force. That was until Luke got a lucky hit in and then Vader quickly ended the fight quite brutally.
My point is Luke didn't have time to learn much with Yoda before Bespin. Yoda taught him the basics (both the physical side but also the understanding of how to use the force). But most importantly Yoda gave Luke the fundamentals and the mind set of the Jedi way (and it took Luke acting brashly and failing twice before he fully embraced that learning at the end of the film).
Compare TESB Luke to ROTJ Luke and clearly there is a vast difference between the character in both films, (though we didn't see it) we know that he must have taken Yoda and Ben's teachings and practiced, built upon it and honed his abilities in the intervening years.
Rey on the other hand was completely in control against the praetorian guard, she actually faired better than Kylo in that scene (taking out more opponents and helping Kylo out of a difficult situation. She then equalled Kylo in the force sabre grab and recovered more quickly than him. She takes out almost an entire tie-fighter squadron using the Falcons turrets (which she's never used before) and at the end saves the resistance through her mastery and use of the force.
It felt like Luke was relying on plucky courage and hope but we, the audience, knew and were shown that this wouldn't be enough. Luke had taken a short cut by choosing to face down Vader before he was ready and he was clearly out of his depth and was punished for it.
Rey left after one or two lessons in the force (I think the third one ended up on the cutting room floor). Whilst she was at the mercy of Snoke (the Sequels emperor equivalent) she held her own again against Kylo (the Vader equivalent). I never worry if Rey is going to win or how she will do so because at this point you know she can't be defeated.
Rey may have those Jedi books but where does she go from here, she is currently already the most powerful living force user. Luke (having received marginally more training / instruction in the force at the same point in his trilogy) was utterly defeated and barely escaped. We knew he would have to grow as a character if he was to have a hope of being victorious.
Both received comparatively little training and instruction but the outcome for each character was very different, almost the complete opposite - failure against triumph.
None of it matters really because I'm fairly sure Nu-canon says that Rey force downloaded all of Kylo's abilities when he read her mind in TFA so she doesn't need training anyway.
Until Rey cheated and grabbed a lightsaber. 
