Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I don’t see Khev’s gripe as nitpicky I see it as the writer/director dropping the ball.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I saw an ad for TFA being aired on Xmas day and it prompted me to rewatch it. Again, to me it's like the alternate 1980s in Back to the Future II that Marty caused by buying the Sports Almanac where everything has turned to ***t and Biff Tannen rules over everything. It's all so horrible and tragic, I feel like there needs to be time travel to fix it all.

And yeah, it's hard to feel like there's any stakes going into the final movie when we already know the hero is quite capable of beating the villain. She did it in the first movie. That was a huge mistake. Injury Shminjury. The fact remains, she beat him and she beat him mentally even before he had the physical injury. Empire Strikes Back wouldn't have been anywhere near as good, and anticipation for ROTJ would have been dulled significantly, if Luke Skywalker had managed to beat Darth Vader in Cloud City.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

How about Rose taking it upon herself to shirk her mechanic duties in order to paralyze and imprison terrified Resistance volunteers who simply wanted to go home before she herself does exactly what they were trying to do (steal a ship and leave.) Then while those she imprisoned are stuck in a cell she becomes outraged that someone would dare keep horses in a pen. What a freaking peach.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I saw an ad for TFA being aired on Xmas day and it prompted me to rewatch it. Again, to me it's like the alternate 1980s in Back to the Future II that Marty caused by buying the Sports Almanac where everything has turned to ***t and Biff Tannen rules over everything. It's all so horrible and tragic, I feel like there needs to be time travel to fix it all.

Damn now there's an analogy!

Both alternate "bad" timelines even have a character seemingly getting knocked off a ledge only to surprise the villain by rising up above the ledge and bopping them on the head (Marty/Biff, Finn/Phasma.)

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Guys I can’t help it i’m still excited for it can you please forgive me...

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

jye

And what's with all the comas? There's literally a coma per act, lol.

Act I: Finn
Act II: Leia
Act III: Rose

What is this DOFP? Zzzzzzz, lol.

Can you imagine if RJ's new trilogy ends up getting made? That's like 9 new comas, minimum, lol.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Things I still like about TLJ:

1. The entire opening battle. It looks great and I've never minded silly tactics in SW like slow moving low altitude bombers. Yes it's a plus when the tactics are sound (RO) but not a deal breaker if they aren't.

2. Everything on the island. Luke/R2 and Luke/Yoda I would even say are among highlights of the Saga. Hamill's acting is pitch perfect from beginning to end. He even makes the teet sucking funny and cool, lol.

3. Pretty much everything from when Rey leaves the island to the end of the film. Snoke throne room, Holdo suicide, lasers bouncing off Phasma's armor, Crait. I can pick some of those moments apart to high heaven but they suck me back in when I'm actually watching them. Yeah there's Rose absolutely idiotic ramming maneuver and final lecture but that's the thing with this movie. I might be put off by half of it but it's not like the first half of the film is bad and second half is good or vice versa. It's like every new minute there's something good or something bad. So the moment I start to get annoyed with something it quickly passes and we're back to something cool. That makes it very easy to stick with the film from beginning to end IMO.

My big hangup now is just on the whole "canon" factor with regard to the overall Saga and what I personally find to be most satisfying for grand super-narrative. As of now I'm back to Jedi being the end, we'll see if IX can change that.

 

[Neal136]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Guys I can’t help it i’m still excited for it can you please forgive me...

I'm right there with you, man. By the time we hit December next year, I'll be like a little kid again, giddy for the next Star Wars movie.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I think Aquaman is ushering in the Year of the Cheese for 2019.

Cap Marvel looks cheesy. I fear IW2 will be cheesy. And I know Ep9 will be cheesy.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I'm right there with you, man. By the time we hit December next year, I'll be like a little kid again, giddy for the next Star Wars movie.

It's always fun to enjoy new SW so I definitely won't be sitting in my seat opening day of Episode IX with a scowl on my face and arms folded across my chest. I'll be taking in every new minute of the final chapter of the "Skywalker Saga" with the hope that it delivers on all levels. Then if it does win/win, maximum enjoyment. If it goes full Rose Tico then and only then will I change my tune and make my opinion known for months on end to all of you fine people, lol.

Looking forward to the excitement hopefully building again with the first teaser!

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I definitely won't be sitting in my seat opening day of Episode IX with a scowl on my face and arms folded across my chest.

That will be me. To your left.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I’m not kidding when I say that while I enjoyed it more than TFA in the theater but after months of forum battles that I was involved in I was definitely feeling burnt out about it so much so that I was actually fully expecting it to suck on home viewing but then I was pleasantly surprised when my likes about it held up quite nicely.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

That will be me. To your left.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

That will be me. To your left.

I'll be on your right wearing a TPM shirt and jye will be on your left with a Jason Mamoa tat on his arm, lol.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I’m not kidding when I say that while I enjoyed it more than TFA in the theater but after months of forum battles that I was involved in I was definitely feeling burnt out about it so much so that I was actually fully expecting it to suck on home viewing but then I was pleasantly surprised when my likes about it held up quite nicely.

Yeah TLJ is like the exact opposite of the PT. One sounds good on paper but sucks on screen and the other sounds like it sucks but plays well when you're watching it.

ROTS is like: "Okay the story starts with the biggest space battle ever then Anakin freaking dismembers Dooku and decapitates him! Then he finds out Padme is pregnant, gets seduced by Palpatine, and Obi-Wan goes toe to toe with freaking Grievous that one badass from the cartoon! Then Anakin goes full evil and becomes a Sith! In one scene he even slaughters an entire ROOM full of Jedi!" "What?!? That sounds awesome! I want to see that!!" And then you do and every bit of it sucks.

But then TLJ is all "Yeah Luke is this weird hobo who spills milk on his beard while Leia flies through space by herself, the FO slowly chases the Resistance, some horses get let out of their pens and then there's a repeat of the Hoth battle except that the good guys don't actually accomplish anything. Luke has a fake duel and Rey lifts some rocks. The end." But yet it's totally watchable and engaging from beginning to end, lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

But then TLJ is all "Yeah Luke is this weird hobo who spills milk on his beard while Leia flies through space by herself, the FO slowly chases the Resistance, and then there's a repeat of the Hoth battle except that the good guys don't actually accomplish anything. Luke has a fake duel and Rey lifts some rocks. The end."

Yep. That's what I remember. And chubby Asian girl riding tall horse. Only seen it once.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yep I added the horseys after you started your response, lol. Reading the full synopsis Kathleen Kennedy must have been out of her freaking MIND to greenlight that script. It's unquestionably the worst plot of the entire Saga. Imagine if it WASN'T executed so well?!?

 

[ajp4mgs]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I don’t see Khev’s gripe as nitpicky I see it as the writer/director dropping the ball.

So, Khev's objection to the hyperspace tracking scenario is now being considered an example of bad writing? Because Leia didn't address the possibility of a homing beacon? Seriously!? I'm sorry guys, but the objection has to make sense. To me, it doesn't. I'll even take the time to explain why:

We're talking about events in the movie that happen right after the events that ended TFA. It's safe to assume that Leia didn't bring on anyone new into the Resistance between the end of TFA and beginning of TLJ. The Resistance is simply evacuating. It's also safe to assume that there was no opportunity whatsoever for anyone from the FO to plant a homing beacon in that same period of time (during an evacuation). Can we all at least agree on that?

In TFA, Hux tells Snoke that they tracked a Resistance recon ship to the Ileenium System (not to a specific planet!). The FO clearly had no beacon planted with the Resistance; that's why they took advantage of a ship that came to do recon on Starkiller. The FO followed that ship home, but only in so far as knowing which *system* it returned to, so it had no homing beacon on it. Due to how everything unfolded in TFA, common sense would tell Leia that the FO had no pinpoint homing beacon planted on any ship at D'Qar.

So, how stupid would General Organa have to be in order to say *out loud* that she seriously considered that someone had planted a beacon, when it was abundantly obvious that the FO had no pinpoint location on the Resistance prior to the destruction of Starkiller? I mean, how the hell would they have planted one since? Again: TLJ happens right after TFA!

Still think it was bad writing not to have Leia tell her crew that she had to consider a homing beacon even though it would have made no sense? Isn't Leia supposed to be smart?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

On your left!

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The peeping Endo.

I'm really liking my new hairdo. It doesn't move when I run or anything. Looks like it's time to update my Tinder profile pic, lol.