Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The whole of the MCU is a pretty amazing feat, a 22 movie long, coherent story.

Can you even imagine another franchise daring to tease a villain (Thanos at the end of Avengers) who wouldn't fully manifest until 16 films later?!?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The truly astounding feat on the part of the MCU which I just can't imagine will ever be even close to replicated again is the level of quality over *22 freaking films.* So much so that even "okay to slightly above average" films like Thor Dark World, IM2, BP, and CM actually almost feel like they're "bad" movies when technically they're not, lol.

Now if you want to rate which is the most "perfect" franchise then IMO Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 easily surpass the MCU. 100% "great" films with 0% even being average or simply "good." Pure, untainted greatness like if SW had simply ended after ESB, lol. But it's a lot easier to accomplish when your entire franchise is composed of only two films, lol.

But 22 straight movies without a single one going off the rails? That just boggles the mind.

I thought about Blade Runner but I didn't consider a two-film saga an actual franchise. I think it must be a trilogy or more. Otherwise its just a movie with a sequel.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Can you even imagine another franchise daring to tease a villain (Thanos at the end of Avengers) who wouldn't fully manifest until 16 films later?!?

I just can't see it happening outside this current regime of the MCU. They took their time, introduced the characters (relatively) slowly and it paid off in a big way.

DC wanted the same thing, but wasn't willing to put the time or effort in, which is why it will never be replicated. It took almost superhuman restraint.

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[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yeah, unfortunately DCU is how this type of "universe" thing would look normally.

MCU is an abnormality and an aberration.... it just happen to be first.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The 2nd trilogy really killed Star Wars, this set finished it off

Can you even imagine another franchise daring to tease a villain (Thanos at the end of Avengers) who wouldn't fully manifest until 16 films later?!?

Seeing it spelled out like that just makes it seem like pure insanity lol

I thought about Blade Runner but I didn't consider a two-film saga an actual franchise. I think it must be a trilogy or more. Otherwise its just a movie with a sequel.

Sorry Khev but Wor-Gar got you pal.

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I just can't see it happening outside this current regime of the MCU. They took their time, introduced the characters (relatively) slowly and it paid off in a big way.

DC wanted the same thing, but wasn't willing to put the time or effort in, which is why it will never be replicated. It took almost superhuman restraint.

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Superhuman restraint.

Perfect!

Yeah, unfortunately DCU is how this type of "universe" thing would look normally.

MCU is an abnormality and an aberration.... it just happen to be first.

Jeez you are one cynical bastard albeit a very accurate one lol

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The 2nd trilogy really killed Star Wars, this set finished it off

At the surface I get what you’re saying BUT that 2 billion TFA box office proves your statement needs some refinement lol

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I thought about Blade Runner but I didn't consider a two-film saga an actual franchise. I think it must be a trilogy or more. Otherwise its just a movie with a sequel.

Sorry Khev but Wor-Gar got you pal.

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Well I think that if two films are enough to be a saga then they're enough to be a franchise.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019



Babality?

 

[Prime Clone]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

DC wanted the same thing, but wasn't willing to put the time or effort in, which is why it will never be replicated. It took almost superhuman restraint.

I thought there should have been MOS2 before BvS *but* I did think BvS did a relatively seamless job of fast-tracking JL, under the circumstances.

Sadly JL didn’t fully realise the promise (though I suspect if they hadn’t tried to de-Snyder it, it might have).

At least WW, AM and now Shazam got positive receptions. We may yet see JL2 after all (bring back Battfleck!)

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

More than anything, this is true and what is unique about the MCU... it has consistently delivered watchable entertainment without one flop or embarrassment.

No franchise can say that. Not Star Wars, not Bond, not Indy, not Batman, not Alien, not Terminator, not BTTF, not Predator, not Die Hard, not Pirates, not Mad Max, not Matrix. Only the LOTR/Hobbit comes close but its mere 6 entries (half being meh) can't really compare.

Now now.....

You leave BTTF out of this......

None of those films are a flop or embarrassment.




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[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Now now.....

You leave BTTF out of this......

None of those films are a flop or embarrassment.




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I was going to say that. I used to find III disappointing but these days I enjoy it, not quite as much as the other two but it's still pretty good.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I thought there should have been MOS2 before BvS *but* I did think BvS did a relatively seamless job of fast-tracking JL, under the circumstances.

Sadly JL didn’t fully realise the promise (though I suspect if they hadn’t tried to de-Snyder it, it might have).

At least WW, AM and now Shazam got positive receptions. We may yet see JL2 after all (bring back Battfleck!)

Had it been done like the MCU, there'd have been at least 6 movies leading into JL. They don't have to emulate MCU, but I get the feeling they were going for a faster, cheaper, less detailed version of what Marvel did.

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[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Now now.....

You leave BTTF out of this......

None of those films are a flop or embarrassment.




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I'd say I actually enjoyed the 3rd BTTF more than the 2nd. I wasn't a fan of the 2nd, to be honest.

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[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

BTTF 3 is pretty inane, sorry. A story about the same old gags, the same old lines, the exact repetition of the previous with a forced romance for Doc and finally the solution to the ridiculous "chicken" issue for Marty. All set in the glorious clichéd West...

Y'all must have seen it very young first and made natal attachments to it.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

BTTF 3 is pretty inane, sorry. A story about the same old gags, the same old lines, the exact repetition of the previous with a forced romance for Doc and finally the solution to the ridiculous "chicken" issue for Marty. All set in the glorious clichéd West...

Y'all must have seen it very young first and made natal attachments to it.

Well yeah but that was when I liked it the least in my life

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well yeah but that was when I liked it the least in my life

That is unusual. But you had good taste as a young man. Alien and Terminator and all. Perhaps you have aged into bad taste.

TEST: Do you like the PT better now than you did when they came out?

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

No, I think those are as bad as ever.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Oh well, then BTTF 3 remains an anomaly for you then.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Should I tell him TLC is my favourite Indy film? No, sweet Jehovah don't go there a-dev.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I already know that about you.

1989-1991 must have been a very, very sweet time in your life.