Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The first two Star Wars films could be appreciated on a number of levels, and therefore had appeal for *all* ages. That was a key part of the "magic" of Star Wars.

Yep. Case in point this unused teaser poster prior to SW's original release. Note the tagline under the title. Not a statement you'd make to a child.

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I'm surprised that you think it's "sane adults" who view SW as a kids movie. I think there's plenty of evidence out there to suggest that it's viewed with much more nuance than that by a large percentage of the populace (many of them quite sane).

I don't think celebrities (including British royalty) would be so eager to be background (even masked) extras on a SW film if they thought it was strictly for kids. I don't think Obama's Press Secretary would be answering questions about Star Wars in 2015 if it was perceived as merely a "kids movie." And I don't think Reagan would've named his theoretical space defense project "Star Wars" if the franchise was largely perceived as simply a silly thing for kids.

There have been colleges and universities that have had courses dedicated to Star Wars (there aren't a lot of children enrolled in college, as far as I know). Quite a few people out there also understand the Eastern Philosophy influences upon George Lucas's "Force" and "Jedi" concepts. Plenty of people also understand the actual demographics of the Star Wars fan base: it's mostly adult males.

The first two Star Wars films could be appreciated on a number of levels, and therefore had appeal for *all* ages. That was a key part of the "magic" of Star Wars. Yes, they had obvious appeal to kids, but it wasn't until ROTJ that they actually started being made more exclusively for the mentality of a child. And that's a strong reason why so many (myself included) objected to the drastic change in tone of the prequels. Making SW strictly into kids movies actually stood out as a *shift* in tone from the OT. Star Wars had officially "sold out" at that point. That didn't go over too well with quite a few people (and it's why I laugh when anyone says that the PT did no harm to the Star Wars franchise).

In spite of the PT (but maybe this is just me hoping), I don't think the general perception today is that SW = kids movie. The ST doesn't seem geared toward that. Not with a son killing his own father as a key plot point in one movie, and the total subversion of expectations being a clear goal of the other. I don't see how anyone could watch RO, TFA, or TLJ and come away thinking those were made for kids. Kid-friendly elements? Yes. Made for, and enjoyed mainly by, kids? I don't think so.



Mann's Chinese Theater for first viewing!?? And 25 times overall!!??? Wow!! :bow

Ah , no misunderstandings, I never said I was a “sane” adult! LOL Sane adults are boring as hell.

But contrary to what we think, there are way more people who do not care at all about SW beyond a weekend film.

Even the references you cite, although valid, are a very small piece of the overall population.

To my sadness and shock, I have met more people than not lately who have never even seen the OT, and dont really care at all to see it. They are mostly in the 15-30 age range.

SW was a generational , lighting strikes once in a lifetime thing, that even the MCU cannot really touch as far as the impact on culture. Unfortunately, the generation that was affects mostly was GEn X, witha bit of crossover. But most Boomers and Millennials , just don’t give a flip about SW. and both those generations dwarf GenX. And our children as a whole are just not as interested as we were at their age . They have way too many inputs from media to dwell too long on a single franchise they way we did.



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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Not a single one of my son’s circle of friends same for nephews and nieces care about SW!

lol


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As a kid I assumed that my parents weren't into SW because it came out when they were too old. They were 30 when they took me in '77, lol. So yeah, I'm obviously cut from a different cloth (in no small part to the existence of SW itself.)



The one single SW film I ever saw at the Chinese was....AOTC. :slap

lol

The new Disney + streaming service has placed AOTC under the “Comedy” section lol


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Not a single one of my son’s circle of friends same for nephews and nieces care about SW!

lol


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Just the opposite here, the nerdom runs deep in my family.
 
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Just the opposite here, the nerdom runs deep in my family.

That’s pretty cool

I’m very very choosy who I share my geek self with in person in other words i’m still mostly a closet geek in the “real” world.


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That’s pretty cool

I’m very very choosy who I share my geek self with in person in other words i’m still mostly a closet geek in the “real” world.


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Not having Star Wars around in the late 80's and early 90's probably helped immensely with my love life. Not sure how many girls would have been into me had I been too fixated on Star Wars. So, thank you GL, for waiting till the late 90's to give us news Star Wars.

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Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Not having Star Wars around in the late 80's and early 90's probably helped immensely with my love life. Not sure how many girls would have been into me had I been too fixated on Star Wars. So, thank you GL, for waiting till the late 90's to give us news Star Wars.

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I knew that if I wanted to hook up with a girl that ranged from 300lbs-375lbs I would go hang out in the Star Trek circles.

If I wanted a 200lb-300lbs then the Star Wars circle.

For the 175lb-250lb range but missing a few teeth I would go searching in the horror movies circle.

Now nothing but hotties wtf not fair!


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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I knew that if I wanted to hook up with a girl that ranged from 300lbs-375lbs I would go hang out in the Star Trek circles.

If I wanted a 200lb-300lbs then the Star Wars circle.

For the 175lb-250lb range but missing a few teeth I would go searching in the horror movies circle.

Now nothing but hotties wtf not fair!


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Damn. Where did you live?
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yep. I will never forget that summer.

Finding that picture of the UA Twin really brought back some memories. I even have all the ticket stubs from all the shows. Of course, back then, they were literally just "tickets" like you'd get at a carnival, so no "Star Wars" written anywhere or dates. But I remember.

I actually saw it at the Chinese another few times later, I think it returned there in '78 for its "1-year in the theaters" tour. All in all, over that year, I saw that movie an even 30 times. I even recorded it on 3 Maxell cassette tapes on my last trip to the Chinese Theater. My way of keeping the theatrical auditory 'experience' alive. I think I'll give those tapes to the Smithsonian before I die, so they can play the crowds reactions in the background as you tour their exhibit. I think that would be pretty cool. "Star Wars" live from 1978 at the Chinese Theater. I forget the exact date but its on the tapes.

I'd kill to have had that kind of experience with Star Wars. You were right at the epicenter of the birth of the whole SW phenomenon. Not only that, but you had the presence of mind (even as a kid) to record it, knowing you were experiencing something uniquely special. That's awesome, Wor-Gar!

And just think, someday you might be able to add "I streamed 'Yak Face: A Star Wars Story' on my phone the day Disney+ made it available." :lol

The one single film I ever saw at the Chinese was....TPM. :slap

:lol Still a cool experience, Prime. Even though TPM is my least favorite SW film, that opening day (even without the benefit of being at a historic theater) was memorable. That crowd was buzzing! No other opening day has matched that energy since.

So much palpable excitement and anticipation throughout the theater. I'll never forget it. Everything after the lights dimmed, though? That I *would* like to forget. :lol

Yep. Case in point this unused teaser poster prior to SW's original release. Note the tagline under the title. Not a statement you'd make to a child.

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Nice! And yeah, that pretty much says it all. Dammit, now I want that poster.
 
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And just think, someday you might be able to add "I streamed 'Yak Face: A Star Wars Story' on my phone the day Disney+ made it available." :lol

:lol

Some day... some day, maybe not for us, but there will be another generational event "movie" -- or perhaps experience is a better word -- that captures the imagination of the masses for 40 years. My guess is it will be some kind of virtual experience (again, bad word but whatever the new 'virtual' is in the future) put together by a new, master filmmaker... er, experience-maker.
 
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:lol Still a cool experience, Prime. Even though TPM is my least favorite SW film, that opening day (even without the benefit of being at a historic theater) was memorable. That crowd was buzzing! No other opening day has matched that energy since.

So much palpable excitement and anticipation throughout the theater. I'll never forget it. Everything after the lights dimmed, though? That I *would* like to forget. :lol


Hehe too true! The feeling afterward as the sun came up over Hollywood (I missed tickets for the midnight premiere so had to “settle” for the 3am session) was a weird mix of adrenalin at the shared experience and the nagging sense of, “What did I just see!?”
 
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Hehe too true! The feeling afterward as the sun came up over Hollywood (I missed tickets for the midnight premiere so had to “settle” for the 3am session) was a weird mix of adrenalin at the shared experience and the nagging sense of, “What did I just see!?”

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What an absolutely perfect summation! I can totally relate to that. I was even legitimately wondering that day if the whole film was just a prank. It was so surreal.

If it had been a prank, I'm not sure if I would've been pissed off beyond belief . . . or actually relieved. :lol
 
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:lol

Some day... some day, maybe not for us, but there will be another generational event "movie" -- or perhaps experience is a better word -- that captures the imagination of the masses for 40 years. My guess is it will be some kind of virtual experience (again, bad word but whatever the new 'virtual' is in the future) put together by a new, master filmmaker... er, experience-maker.

Some day?

What the hell is End Game if not the modern SW generational event that sold out in 6 hours it literally was handed over the crown from SW it can’t be more clearly symbolically passed on than that!

If there was no internet the lines would be around the corner just like with SW in 77!

Christ there were actual “virtual” que lines on the movie ticket websites :lol

People waited for 4 hours on AMC ticket website it was insane!
 
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Some day?

What the hell is End Game if not the modern SW generational event that sold out in 6 hours it literally took the crown away from SW it can’t be more clearly passed on than that!

People wait

If there was no internet the lines would be around the corner just like with SW in 77!

Christ there were actual “virtual” que lines on the movie ticket websites :lol

People waited for 4 hours on AMC ticket website it was insane!

What if The next phase of mcu movies leads to a bigger connected uverse that ties all of them down better than the current mcu?

Plus the sad part of it all is that disney now has put the reins on lucasfilms in regards to this franchise and they are betting all stakes with their parks, some day, SW will be the main hype again, i was wondering about this before like what if something better will top endgame, so we will see


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