Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

2019


Big Year for movies:

Marvel = DEAD

Star Wars = DEAD

Game of Thrones = DEAD

 

[chewblacca]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The time line for episode nine just came to me. JJ had only 2 years to make a script, film and create FX for a Star Wars movie that last ended in basically no direction. Is JJ that good?

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

"So how many SW panels is this for you, Lieutenant?"

"38, live-streamed."

"How many Celebrations?"

"Uh two, including this one."

"Huh-oh man."

Bombad Lieutenant

 

[jimcap]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

2019


Big Year for movies:

Marvel = DEAD

Star Wars = DEAD

Game of Thrones = DEAD

That's depressing! But true.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

2019


Big Year for movies:

Marvel = DEAD

Star Wars = DEAD

Game of Thrones = DEAD

Don't worry, they'll make more.

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[Sachiel]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The time line for episode nine just came to me. JJ had only 2 years to make a script, film and create FX for a Star Wars movie that last ended in basically no direction. Is JJ that good?

What do you think?

https://collider.com/star-wars-9-jj-abrams-turned-down-directing/

I wasn’t supposed to be there. I wasn’t the guy, ya’ know? I was working on some other things, and I had something else that I was assuming would be the next project, if we’d be so lucky. And then Kathy Kennedy called and said, ‘Would you really, seriously, consider coming aboard?’ And once that started, it all happened pretty quickly. The whole thing was a crazy leap of faith. And there was an actual moment when I nearly said, ‘No, I’m not going to do this.

To have no script and to have a release date and have it be essentially a two-year window when you’re saying (to yourself), you’ve got two years from the decision to do it to release, and you have literally nothing . . . . You don’t have the story, you don’t have the cast, you don’t have the designers, the sets. There was a crew, and there were things that will be worked on for the version that preceded ours, but this was starting over.

It was a completely unknown scenario. I had some gut instincts about where the story would have gone. But without getting in the weeds on episode eight, that was a story that Rian wrote and was telling based on seven before we met. So he was taking the thing in another direction. So we also had to respond to Episode VIII. So our movie was not just following what we had started, it was following what we had started and then had been advanced by someone else.

So there was that, and, finally, it was resolving nine movies. While there are some threads of larger ideas and some big picture things that had been conceived decades ago and a lot of ideas that Lawrence Kasdan and I had when we were doing Episode VII, the lack of absolute inevitability, the lack of a complete structure for this thing, given the way it was being run was an enormous challenge.

Strangely, we were sort of relentless and almost unbearably disciplined about the story and forcing ourselves to question and answer some fundamental things that at the beginning, I absolutely had no clue how we would begin to address. I feel like we’ve gotten to a place—without jinxing anything or sounding more confident than I deserve to be—I feel like we’re in a place where we might have something incredibly special. So I feel relief being home, and I feel gratitude that I got to do it. And more than anything, I’m excited about what I think we might have.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Don't worry, they'll make more.

Yeah but we'll always remember 2019 as the end of the line for some major franchises.

Especially for end of the 1st 10-year-plan (movies) and the best series ever (television)

 

[punisher1974]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yep. Every version.

1977 Star Wars
1981 Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope
1980 The Empire Strikes Back
1983 Return of the Jedi
1986 Star Tours Disney Ride
1997 Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition
1999 The Phantom Menace
2002 Attack of the Clones (film version where Padme doesn't take Anakin's hand at the wedding ceremony)
2002 Attach of the Clones (digital version where Padme does take his mechanical hand)
2005 Revenge of the Sith film version (screen wipe to crispy Anakin on the side of the bank)
2005 Revenge of the Sith digital version (hard cut to crispy Anakin)
2008 The Clone Wars
2011 New Disney Star Tours (and *I* was the Rebel Spy, lol)
2012 The Phantom Menace 3D
2015 The Force Awakens
2016 Rogue One
2017 The Last Jedi
2018 Solo

Actually it looks like the one and only version I ever missed on the big screen was the 2002 AOTC IMAX cut which from everything I've heard was vastly superior to the full length version.

I didn't realize there were differences in episode 2 and 3. I knew about the imax version of episode 2 but that's it.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yeah but we'll always remember 2019 as the end of the line for some major franchises.

Especially for end of the 1st 10-year-plan (movies) and the best series ever (television)

I'd be shocked if GOT spinoff/prequel and the next phase of the MCU maintained the quality of the previous works. But I'm excited to see what's next, especially for GOT.

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[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yep. Every version.

1977 Star Wars
1981 Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope
1980 The Empire Strikes Back
1983 Return of the Jedi
1986 Star Tours Disney Ride
1997 Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition
1999 The Phantom Menace
2002 Attack of the Clones (film version where Padme doesn't take Anakin's hand at the wedding ceremony)
2002 Attach of the Clones (digital version where Padme does take his mechanical hand)
2005 Revenge of the Sith film version (screen wipe to crispy Anakin on the side of the bank)
2005 Revenge of the Sith digital version (hard cut to crispy Anakin)
2008 The Clone Wars
2011 New Disney Star Tours (and *I* was the Rebel Spy, lol)
2012 The Phantom Menace 3D
2015 The Force Awakens
2016 Rogue One
2017 The Last Jedi
2018 Solo

Actually it looks like the one and only version I ever missed on the big screen was the 2002 AOTC IMAX cut which from everything I've heard was vastly superior to the full length version.

Except for Phantom menace in 3D and the Clone Wars movie, I was at the theater for all of them as well.

Did you actually see the Clone Wars movie at the theater, or are you just talking about the show?

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[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Marvel ain’t dead. They got xmen and ff back.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Marvel ain’t dead. They got xmen and ff back.

I think rushmore's post answers your proposition...

I'd be shocked if GOT spinoff/prequel and the next phase of the MCU maintained the quality of the previous works. But I'm excited to see what's next, especially for GOT.

Phase 4 just won't be like Phase 1 - 2 - 3

There won't be a grand plan. They'll just be feeling their way around for while. That doesn't have the makings of good things to come. The MCU will finally be doing it like everyone else has been: one movie at a time.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

We won’t know til endgame tho

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I didn't realize there were differences in episode 2 and 3. I knew about the imax version of episode 2 but that's it.

Yeah, just those two minor shots were different between the 35mm film and digital versions that were shown in theaters in 2002 and 2005. Not sure why since they were both showing in separate auditoriums at the same time (though there were very few digital projectors at the time, especially in 2002 which is why I went out of my way to visit the Chinese to see AOTC.) Obviously all home releases have featured the digital versions of AOTC and ROTS so unless you had remembered that Padme originally did not hold Anakin's mechanical hand at the wedding ceremony you'd be none the wiser.

Except for Phantom menace in 3D and the Clone Wars movie, I was at the theater for all of them as well.

Did you actually see the Clone Wars movie at the theater, or are you just talking about the show?

Yeah I went and saw the theatrically released CW cartoon in 2008 and was shocked that they considered it worthy of a big screen release with the likes of Wall-E playing in the next auditorium. I know it was just TV footage cut together to make a movie but that didn't keep it from looking any less dreadful in comparison.

 

[Chakor]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Phase 4 just won't be like Phase 1 - 2 - 3

There won't be a grand plan. They'll just be feeling their way around for while. That doesn't have the makings of good things to come.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Here is why bringing the X-Men and F4 into the MCU, as mind blowing amazing as that will be, will still NOT make that phase as culturally significant as MCU phases 1-2-3 were so successfully able to achieve.

It’s quite simple of an explanation really.

We’ve been watching XM and F4 in the cinema going on for 20 years now DOUBLE that of the MCU we’re so used to it that we’re cheering for its demise!

Avengers characters were fresh and new and 2008 for the MCU was equivalent to 2000 for XM but unlike the Fox XM-F4 franchises the MCU was executed with quality long term precision.

So yes seeing the XM-F4 finally home under the proper Marvel banner will absolutely be mind blowing but really only for us diehards and even then the diehards are somewhat split on that because of “muh R”.

MCU phase 1-2-3 became the new cultural SW which is a damn near impossible task to achieve and as crazy as this may sound in certain ways it surpassed some of SW accomplishments!

Now i’m not saying that the MCU XM-F4 won’t be great and successful in their own way if anything all the ground work has already been layed and all signs point towards that being the case BUT achieve SW levels of cultural greatness, NOPE!

XM-F4 been there done that already sure not under the MCU banner but I’ll say it again, been there done that already, with Avengers that hadn’t been done before.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Very true on the inclusion of FF and X-Men having nowhere near the impact of Phases I-III. Case in point Spider-Man in CW and IW. Sure it was awesome to see but his presence has still been overshadowed by the story itself (as it should) and that's freaking SPIDER-MAN. The FF and X-Men have never been on his level.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I would say Spidey is the next run.

Maybe Spidey team ups with others....


The ensemble buddy picture will be the next thing. Continue with what works.


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I know IX is already DOA for a significant % of SW fans but come Saturday i’m going to enjoy riding the simultaneous hype of End Game and IX.

It’s especially important for me to enjoy them because very soon my internal fire of enthusiasm for cinema will soon be extinguished for good.

Other then the MCU Xmen-F4, new Batman-JL, or new Godzilla taking me out of retirement i’m done with cinema and even with Superheroes and Godzilla there comes a saturation point where you’ve seen their powers enough that you don’t need to see it anymore in a new movie.

My movie collection is a thing of perfection can’t ask for anything more.

Cinema VR is too far past my lifetime especially since for it to have mass appeal it needs to be goggles free because nobody’s going to put their faces into dirty masks at a theater.

Movie theaters might just not even be needed and shut down completely 200 years from now when everyone is just doing the VR thing at home.

Literally every male in existence during the VR era of humanity will be **** stars VR will come to stand for the creation of every male can be a **** star lol

Then androids will break free from their human bondage and wipe out mankind the end lol

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yeah for better or worse Episode IX is indeed a true end of an era, much more so than any other film in the series so far so there's nothing to be lost by enjoying the hell out of the hype and hopefully the film itself while we still can.