Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[loki2371]

Disney shows so much love to the SW OT Legacy characters...

 

[darthviper107]

That sounds like something Han would do

 

[heon123]

Yeah, that's Han.

 

[jye4ever]

Not IX related but i?ll never not send out a sale advisory when I see you.

I was just at Barnes and Noble and they had 4 of the Kotobukiya TLJ double pack Praetorian guards for 75% OFF its $140 price!

Hate TLJ all you want but that?s freaking $35 for an excellently painted double pack of pretty cool looking characters!

I couldn?t resist I picked one up.

Shame they didn?t have the ROTJ Royal Guards double pack with Palpatine at that discount!

Hurry lol


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[Khev]

Interesting commentary. I must say I agree. If we hadn't been bombarded with JJ and KK repeatedly telling us that this is "THE END OF THE SKYWALKER SAGA" and "THE FINALE 40 YEARS IN THE MAKING" then based on the actual episodes themselves and the footage released thus far TROS might feel like just another filler movie. Nothing remotely like the build up to ROTJ, ROTS, LOTR:ROTK or EG.

https://www.thewrap.com/its-weird-that-we-dont-know-what-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-about/

"When I watched that 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' sizzle reel back in August, I was surprised by the reminder that 'Episode IX' will be the end of the main series of 'Star Wars' movies. Not because it's news to me, but because nothing about this feels like the end - and certainly not like the culmination of a grand story told over the past 42 years.

How could it? You'd be hard pressed to find anything in the first two entries in this new trilogy that moves things toward some big finale. And frankly, it's impossible to watch the previous eight numbered 'Star Wars' movies and think, 'Yes, the next one is the end of the story' without being told it is. You'd simply never come to that conclusion on your own.

Here's what we know about 'Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker.' The characters who survived the last movie will be in it. Even though he's dead, Luke Skywalker will pop up, probably as a Force ghost. Also Emperor Palpatine will be there, even though he also is dead. Lando is coming back too, but I don't think he has died yet. Our heroes will go to a desert planet, and it may or may not be one we've seen before. And they're also gonna go to where some Death Star wreckage is. And Rey is gonna use a janky new foldable lightsaber while looking evil.

What we don't know is what anybody is actually trying to do in this movie. We don't know the central plot beyond 'good guys fight bad guys and probably there will be a twist.'

And looking back on the previous two films in this trilogy, 'The Force Awakens' basically remixes 'A New Hope' without actually explaining anything about the universe 30 years after 'Return of the Jedi.' And nothing about 'The Last Jedi' says 'we're nearing the end of this epic' - it actually plays more like the tragic end of a trilogy than a middle chapter.

It was basically the same ending 'Revenge of the Sith' had - the bad guys won, the good guys have lost almost everything, and the hope for the future rests with children. But in the case of 'Revenge of the Sith,' the story was leading into an 18-year time skip between the prequels and the original trilogy. In the case of 'The Last Jedi,' the story was apparently supposed to be setting up the climax of the whole Saga, but there aren't any leftover threads to pick up. The resistance is gone. The First Order is in control of everything. And for some reason, it was plainly stated that none of the things we were expressly or implicitly told would be a Big Deal in this new trilogy mattered at all. 'Let the past die' and all that.

Beyond just the bad guys still being out there, there's nothing we can infer from the previous films about where this whole thing is going. Ask yourself, if you hadn't been told that the end of everything related to the story that began in 1977 was imminent, would you really be expecting it? Given the way 'The Last Jedi' set the galaxy back into more or less the state it was between the prequels and the original trilogy, it would make much more sense to assume that Episodes X through XII would eventually be on the way, with 'The Rise of Skywalker' setting up a big new story arc.

This whole situation reminds me of the marketing campaign for 'Transformers: The Last Knight,' the fifth of the Michael Bay series, which awkwardly and out of nowhere claimed the movie would be 'the final chapter' and encouraged fans to 'find out how it all ends.' It was a weird direction for that film's marketing because nothing about the trajectory of the franchise indicated 'The Last Knight' would be the last main series 'Transformers' movie. And the film itself directly contradicted that idea, ending with a cliffhanger that explicitly teased another sequel.

It makes me wonder when exactly they decided to end the saga here and fully embrace the shared universe thing with the slated Rian Johnson trilogy and whatever it is 'Game of Thrones' creators David Benioff and DB Weiss are doing. The first instance I can find of a declaration that 'Episode IX' would wrap up the main series comes from JJ Abrams back in 2017.

Speaking with Rolling Stone, Abrams said that he saw the then-untitled 'Episode IX' as the end of the saga, adding the caveat that 'the future is in flux' - meaning that was not an official statement on the matter. The confirmation came during the summer of 2018 in the press release revealing the new cast members of the film. It casually referred to the movie as 'the final installment of the Skywalker saga' in the first paragraph.

The timing of that official declaration is interesting, coming two months after 'Solo: A Star Wars' story became the first box office failure in the franchise's history. That development no doubt sparked some major internal evaluation of the direction of the franchise. And then this year, Disney CEO Bob Iger said the theatrical portion of the franchise would take a hiatus after 'The Rise of Skywalker,' a decision that I can't help but think was at least partially inspired by the failure of 'Solo.'

Whatever the reason, it doesn't feel...correct that we're only two months away from the end of this series of movies that has stretched on for so long. Sure, there is plenty of anticipation for 'The Rise of Skywalker,' but it's not that type of anticipation. It's just the normal excitement for a new big 'Star Wars' movie where we're gonna see Mark Hamill and Billy Dee Williams and the late Carrie Fisher. It's inherently a major pop culture event.

But if this is the end then it should feel like more than that. But it doesn't. And that's weird."

 

[jye4ever]

Interesting commentary. I must say I agree. If we hadn't been bombarded with JJ and KK repeatedly telling us that this is "THE END OF THE SKYWALKER SAGA" and "THE FINALE 40 YEARS IN THE MAKING" then based on the actual episodes themselves and the footage released thus far TROS might feel like just another filler movie. Nothing remotely like the build up to ROTJ, ROTS, LOTR:ROTK or EG.

https://www.thewrap.com/its-weird-that-we-dont-know-what-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-about/

"When I watched that 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' sizzle reel back in August, I was surprised by the reminder that 'Episode IX' will be the end of the main series of 'Star Wars' movies. Not because it's news to me, but because nothing about this feels like the end - and certainly not like the culmination of a grand story told over the past 42 years.

How could it? You'd be hard pressed to find anything in the first two entries in this new trilogy that moves things toward some big finale. And frankly, it's impossible to watch the previous eight numbered 'Star Wars' movies and think, 'Yes, the next one is the end of the story' without being told it is. You'd simply never come to that conclusion on your own.

Here's what we know about 'Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker.' The characters who survived the last movie will be in it. Even though he's dead, Luke Skywalker will pop up, probably as a Force ghost. Also Emperor Palpatine will be there, even though he also is dead. Lando is coming back too, but I don't think he has died yet. Our heroes will go to a desert planet, and it may or may not be one we've seen before. And they're also gonna go to where some Death Star wreckage is. And Rey is gonna use a janky new foldable lightsaber while looking evil.

What we don't know is what anybody is actually trying to do in this movie. We don't know the central plot beyond 'good guys fight bad guys and probably there will be a twist.'

And looking back on the previous two films in this trilogy, 'The Force Awakens' basically remixes 'A New Hope' without actually explaining anything about the universe 30 years after 'Return of the Jedi.' And nothing about 'The Last Jedi' says 'we're nearing the end of this epic' - it actually plays more like the tragic end of a trilogy than a middle chapter.

It was basically the same ending 'Revenge of the Sith' had - the bad guys won, the good guys have lost almost everything, and the hope for the future rests with children. But in the case of 'Revenge of the Sith,' the story was leading into an 18-year time skip between the prequels and the original trilogy. In the case of 'The Last Jedi,' the story was apparently supposed to be setting up the climax of the whole Saga, but there aren't any leftover threads to pick up. The resistance is gone. The First Order is in control of everything. And for some reason, it was plainly stated that none of the things we were expressly or implicitly told would be a Big Deal in this new trilogy mattered at all. 'Let the past die' and all that.

Beyond just the bad guys still being out there, there's nothing we can infer from the previous films about where this whole thing is going. Ask yourself, if you hadn't been told that the end of everything related to the story that began in 1977 was imminent, would you really be expecting it? Given the way 'The Last Jedi' set the galaxy back into more or less the state it was between the prequels and the original trilogy, it would make much more sense to assume that Episodes X through XII would eventually be on the way, with 'The Rise of Skywalker' setting up a big new story arc.

This whole situation reminds me of the marketing campaign for 'Transformers: The Last Knight,' the fifth of the Michael Bay series, which awkwardly and out of nowhere claimed the movie would be 'the final chapter' and encouraged fans to 'find out how it all ends.' It was a weird direction for that film's marketing because nothing about the trajectory of the franchise indicated 'The Last Knight' would be the last main series 'Transformers' movie. And the film itself directly contradicted that idea, ending with a cliffhanger that explicitly teased another sequel.

It makes me wonder when exactly they decided to end the saga here and fully embrace the shared universe thing with the slated Rian Johnson trilogy and whatever it is 'Game of Thrones' creators David Benioff and DB Weiss are doing. The first instance I can find of a declaration that 'Episode IX' would wrap up the main series comes from JJ Abrams back in 2017.

Speaking with Rolling Stone, Abrams said that he saw the then-untitled 'Episode IX' as the end of the saga, adding the caveat that 'the future is in flux' - meaning that was not an official statement on the matter. The confirmation came during the summer of 2018 in the press release revealing the new cast members of the film. It casually referred to the movie as 'the final installment of the Skywalker saga' in the first paragraph.

The timing of that official declaration is interesting, coming two months after 'Solo: A Star Wars' story became the first box office failure in the franchise's history. That development no doubt sparked some major internal evaluation of the direction of the franchise. And then this year, Disney CEO Bob Iger said the theatrical portion of the franchise would take a hiatus after 'The Rise of Skywalker,' a decision that I can't help but think was at least partially inspired by the failure of 'Solo.'

Whatever the reason, it doesn't feel...correct that we're only two months away from the end of this series of movies that has stretched on for so long. Sure, there is plenty of anticipation for 'The Rise of Skywalker,' but it's not that type of anticipation. It's just the normal excitement for a new big 'Star Wars' movie where we're gonna see Mark Hamill and Billy Dee Williams and the late Carrie Fisher. It's inherently a major pop culture event.

But if this is the end then it should feel like more than that. But it doesn't. And that's weird."

Ok this person clearly does not comprehend Rose Tico?s penchant for destruction.

What Rose Tico touches comes to an abrupt end.



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[Khev]

She is...inevitable.

Lol

 

[a-dev]

The first instance I can find of a declaration that 'Episode IX' would wrap up the main series comes from JJ Abrams back in 2017.

I think it's because deep down most people know that the (chronological) end of the story was in 1983.

 

[Sachiel]

The story that started in 1977 ended in 1983/2005.

This movie doesn't feel like a big deal because it isn't a big deal. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the 6-part Saga.

"It's just the normal excitement for a new big 'Star Wars' movie where we're gonna see Mark Hamill and Billy Dee Williams and the late Carrie Fisher."

This is what fans are looking froward to. Old and dead things. Ghosts.

How exciting.

 

[jye4ever]

As a counter to his solid argument though the last movie was called The LAST Jedi and the core theme was about that whole mythology coming to an end.

Just give me a better Anakin than from the PT and i?ll be content lol


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[Wor-Gar]

The end of the Skywalker series is ironically called "The Rise of Skywalker".

That alone demonstrates the powers-that-be intelligence and care for the Star Wars Skywalker franchise.

 

[ironwez20]

Lol they are gonna retcon this series so hard in the future. What a complete failure this turned out to be

 

[jye4ever]

The end of the Skywalker series is ironically called "The Rise of Skywalker".

That alone demonstrates the powers-that-be intelligence and care for the Star Wars Skywalker franchise.

The Last Crusade


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[Sachiel]

As a counter to his solid argument though the last movie was called The LAST Jedi and the core theme was about that whole mythology coming to an end.

 

[jye4ever]

Screw it we?re doomed lol


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[Khev]

They're gonna need one heck of an opening crawl to help wrap this all up, lol.

STAR WARS

EPISODE IX

THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

"Palpatine has returned! So has Anakin, Luke, Mace, Ahsoka, and a ton of other awesome characters! But Ahsoka DIED in Anakin's arms! Oh no! It was so sad! Way sadder than Peter Parker getting dusted! Just imagine how mad at Palpatine you would have been if you saw that play out! Palpatine has committed other atrocities too! Remember the scared midget? Just imagine cruelty like that times TEN. That's how bad he is now. All our heroes can do to AVENGE (<--see what we did there) your favorite heroes is to join forces on a very familiar looking desert planet where a strange carnival holds the key to uh, finding the remains of the second Death Star...? Just go with it because memba EWOKS....!"​

 

[Wor-Gar]

The Last Crusade

But that refers to the artifact, not Indy. But I see what you're trying to do.

I'm sure after ruining Star Wars, Disney will see the logic to move JJ to the Indiana Jones franchise.

 

[ironwez20]

Screw it we?re doomed lol


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You finally understand huh lol

 

[Spartan Rex]

George Lucas' forgotten rules of the Force reveal how 'Star Wars 9' ends

Freddie Prinze Jr. recently ranted about how the Force really works and what Lucas taught him. It's kind of a big deal. Here's why.

By Ryan Britt on October 13, 2019

Filed Under Fan Culture, Fan Theories, Kylo Ren & Star Wars​

Okay, so apparently the new leading authority on how the Force works is… Freddie Prinze Jr.? In an epic rant on the podcast Friendship Pod, Prinze Jr. dropped a bunch of epic truth bombs about Star Wars and its fandom that will make anyone with a heart and a brain crack a smile.

But the most interesting aspect of the whole thing is how Prinze Jr. basically explained the whole concept of “balance” in the Force. And, most relevantly, he’s not just making this **** up; he’s telling us what George Lucas explainedwhen he took the part of Jedi Knight Kanan Jarrus on the animated 100-percent canon show Star Wars Rebels.
As we process the hilarious beauty of Freddie Prinze Jr.’s Star Wars rant, let’s also meditate on what his words about the Force and balance might mean for the impending end of the saga in The Rise of Skywalker.
As a refresher, here’s the legitimately great rant in full:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B3aUrNoFE5S/

Untangling the Force

For those of us who like to debate and think about the Force, something that truly stands out here is how Freddie Prinze Jr. breaks down all of this stuff in a crystal-clear way, which George Lucas and various members of the Lucasfilm Story Group have never succeeded in doing. I’m not saying people haven’t triedto explain this before, or that Prinze Jr. is inventing new canon. Instead, what’s great here is his ease in explaining that the Force, as Luke said in The Last Jedi, is not a power you have. None of it is about power. It’s more like a Force of nature.

Specifically, Prinze Jr. points out that the Emperor was aware that the Force would not be cool with him straight-up killing Anakin, so instead Palpatine seduced Anakin. In response, to restore balance, the Force created the Skywalker twins. In essence, whatever good guys do or the bad guys do, the Force will try to compensate for it. Prinze Jr. implies that once you know this, you can figure out who is going to win in The Rise of Skywalker in each specific fight.

Rey and Kylo RenWhat does this mean for Kylo Ren and Rey?

If you’re a hardcore Rebels fan, you know that Freddie Prinze Jr. played Kanan Jarrus, one of the few Jedi who actually survived Order 66. In the podcast, he points out that Rebels showrunner Dave Filoni is basically George Lucas’s lore Padawan, and that Prinze Jr. learned everything about the Force from both of them. Recent rumors claim George Lucas may have been heavily involved in developing the mythology of both The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker. So, how will this impact the two biggest Force-users right now, Rey and Kylo Ren? And what about Luke and Palpatine?






Well, from a certain point of view, one wild theory about Luke Skywalker’s sacrifice in The Last Jedi suddenly makes a lot of sense. Essentially, this theory claims Luke sacrificed himself in Last Jedi, thus setting the Force off-balance and allowing Palpatine to return. If true, that could suggest that Palpatine himself could bring balance to the Force.

Prinze Jr.’s comments might also help to explain Rey and Kylo Ren’s place in the Force, as well as their connection to each other. In The Last Jedi, Luke suggested that for a while after Return of the Jedi, there was “balance.” Then Ben Solo was born. It’s pretty obvious that Ben Solo/Kylo Ren is about a decade older than Rey. It seems possible the Force created Rey to offset the impact of Ben Solo after he started showing Dark side inclinations.

All of this suggests a larger question: do Kylo and Rey together actually represent balance? If that’s true, then the problem isn’t Kylo and Rey, but all these other jokers around them. So, perhaps, Kylo Ren was right: he and Rey do need to team up. Right now, they are pretty much the only two people in this Force balancing game who have even the slightest hope of having a conversation which doesn’t have to end in a lightsaber duel.
Bearing Prinze Jr.’s criteria in mind, that means the winner of the Rey and Kylo Ren duel in The Rise of Skywalker should be: nobody?

 

[TaliBane]

But that refers to the artifact, not Indy. But I see what you're trying to do.

I'm sure after ruining Star Wars, Disney will see the logic to move JJ to the Indiana Jones franchise.

I have no idea how Disney would make an Indy movie these days - I mean the Nazis are worn out and belong to a younger HF (unless they do old HF Indy looking back at a Chris Pratt starring adventure, but HF doesn't appear cool with that) so what villains could Indy face? Half of young people today have sympathy for socialism/communism so no more USSR, and forget China/Japan or terrorists of any kind, or more generally non-Western villains of any kind.

Maybe he can battle some crass wall street types partnered with apartheid era baddies in S Africa trying to finance white supremacists (maybe have a CGI Riggs in a crossover cameo)? Aren't many safe options left.

Indy just feels too uncomfortably "real world" in an era of aliens, robots, ghosts and Siths as mega-movie villains that upset nobody, especially in this era of de-colonization studies. The social movements of the past 5-7 years have done Indy no favors. My guess is even recasting Indy as female or minority wouldn't 100% take care of the issue.