This thread is going in a pointless circle.
I've just spent an hour catching up here - some amazing stuff.I wasn't one of those arguing that Luke couldn't use the X-Wing in TLJ because it was a wreck; In fact I never bought that argument. First off, it's not like Jedi Luke was a bad pilot and would have crash landed or anything, so why would it be damaged/unusable? My interpretation was that he sunk it to conceal his presence there from someone doing a simple fly over. I suppose he could have raised it out of the water in TLJ after he opened himself back up to The Force, but IMO by that time the situation dictated that Force Projection was the better strategy. As for it being functional, well I'm just assuming all the seals that keep its systems safe in the cold void of space work equally well under water. That fighter already survived being submerged in a swamp, so I'm just going with it. Plus they probably cut the scene where before Rey left she applied her MSE (Masters in Scavenger Engineering) & did a Millennium Falcon-style "I bypassed the compressor!" fix.
"Prophecy" stuff makes for great trailer moments but as drama it's just junk.
My brother and I will probably do the same.
. Esp. when I had the film written out in my head already
. Did the same for IW.
My brother and I will probably do the same.
Just fell into place like the puzzle piece map lining up with the "wreckage" of the Death Star. Still can't believe JJ had the nerve to rip off The Goonies in a Star Wars movie. You seriously can't even make this **** up.......well, I guess you can.
on the Goonies thing. We needed chunk's belly jiggle in TROS to distract us.
He's 11 years older so the OT was part of his childhood. He's the one that introduce me to SW as a child, and taught me to respect the OT. Lucas was a "god" when I was a kid. The guy behind both SW and Indiana Jones. That was our view of George Lucas through out the 90's decade when SW made a comeback in 1995. Then 1999 happened.
*actual footage of us in 1999 leaving the theater*
I'm not gonna tell you to stop interpreting it your way, but you can at least try to understand that I'm not ignoring anything that happened. I'm also not ignoring where they got that "communing with past voices" thing. I just don't think it means what you think it means.
*sigh*
I understand loud and clear that *you* think all of the Jedi were helping Rey. I just don't agree with your interpretation.
At the beginning of the movie, Rey was trying to commune with the voices of the dead Jedi. She was having trouble doing it. Leia told her that it will come to her. It's something that Yoda did in the PT and CW. It's not a new Jedi ability, jye. Do you think it meant that Yoda and Rey were trying to absorb all of the Jedi into them?
At the end of the movie, Rey specifically recited the same meditation about "let me hear the voices." That's *all* that happened. She got a pep talk from them. That's it!
And I don't mind if Rey has different skills. But does one of them have to be the one that turned Anakin to the dark side because it was impossible to learn?
Plus, this whole conversation is ignoring the stupidity of the writing that goes way beyond Rey and the climax of the movie. If you think it's a great movie, that's awesome! I'm happy for you. But *I* think it was awful for LOTS of reasons; both structurally and thematically.
Just because I love SW like I would a friend or family member doesn't mean that I have to look the other way when one of them comes to my house and takes a dump on my living room floor. I don't need to make excuses for anyone/anything taking a **** on what I value.
