Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Well Finn once walked around in a leaky bacta suit, would doing the truffle shuffle have really killed him? :lol

Yeah the Goonies knife was weird I'll give you guys that, lol.

Why not just have her close her eyes, meditate and then the dagger lifts up and points to where she needs to go. She's got the freaking Force why over-complicate it, lol.


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You can just see JJ singing "Good enough... for the boonies...yeah-yeah-yeah" in Cyndi Lauper's voice as they wrote that dagger gag.:lol

I'm surprised at the end they didn't have to play a huge Sith bones organ to make Palps' crane arm come out... so he can tell the story of his "one-eyed willy" and what it created.:rotfl
 
And McDiarmid is still a puppetmaster:


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Damn, that's a cool pic. It gave me a McDiarmid fanboy sad that I returned my throne though.:(

At least the goonies had to count their paces to get to their perfect spot because a map told them to. Rey just happens to be there . . . by convenience. Rey conveniently happens to be standing in the *one and only spot* on the Endor moon that allows her to perfectly line up the the dagger.

The whole damned movie is a string of conveniences. I know that SW movies all rely on that to some extent, but TROS is nothing *but* plot conveniences. Just think about the dagger and what the story about it ended up being. Count the conveniences:

Rey found that Sith dagger that murdered her parents when she wasn't even looking for it. And it conveniently happens to be a key to finding what she *was* looking for.

It was found because Rey and her friends conveniently crashed onto the same exact sandpit that had trapped Ochi the Sith hunter (what are the odds!?).

The dagger blade is conveniently still perfectly lined up with the outline of the DS2 wreckage (even though that wreckage would've likely changed by way of weather and oceanic elements during the 15 years since the dagger was used on Rey's parents).

She is conveniently capable of expertly navigating a sea-skimmer ship to get to the wreckage. Rey, the *desert* scavenger, was able to sail a sea-faring vessel through brutal ocean waves.

Upon arriving at the DS2 wreckage, there's a door that conveniently is still functioning after all these years. This door, btw, leads to a room that probably wouldn't even exist since the door was on the same wall as one of the windows. Just another convenience.

The wayfinder she went there to get is destroyed in the throne room wreckage by Kylo. But she takes his TIE Fighter which conveniently has the only other wayfinder in the entire galaxy.

But she burns the TIE Fighter on Ahch-To. No problem, though, since the wayfinder conveniently doesn't burn.

The wayfinder conveniently hooks up to an X-Wing that is also conveniently presented to her and ready to fly.

She uses the wayfinder to get to Palpatine and kill him. She's able to kill him (somehow) by conveniently having two Jedi lightsabers with her (which she needs to cross together . . . because that's how it works, duh!).

And that second lightsaber was only given to her moments before, on Ahch-To, because Luke had conveniently kept it in the most "unfindable place in the galaxy" . . . even though he said that Leia had wanted it to end up in someone else's hands. Convenient!

Wow, that's quite a list.:lol

The Reyfinder thing especially.

My favorite bit is after they use the Sith dagger/protractor and Finn zooms in with his binoculars and sure enough, there's Palps' entire throne room complex - apparently 90% intact, complete with its tower stem. From atomizing explosion in ROTJ... to literally nearly third of the DS superstructure surviving in one piece in TROS.

I still can't believe they did that (as everyone knows, the surviving throne room with only lightly damaged throne/window is one of my absurdist pet peeves:lol,) but I guess it makes for another cool "wreckage of the OT" visual. I can sorta-kinda-maybe buy Palps surviving via magic, but not his office.
 
Also Prime keeps bringing up that Anakin ignored his own grandson and went to help Rey instead.

How do we know that he was being ignored maybe they were talking to him as well we just never saw it.

Rey was a Palpatine I figured she would be given priority and you know why.....

The force latched on to her because they certainly didn?t want her another Palpatine to turn bad so they stuck with her.

Kylo was already brought to the light Rey was the priority with keeping her on the team.

She died as a Palpatine and was reborn as a Skywalker.



Thanks Jye, that just might be what it takes to bring me around.

Rey Palpatine is dead.

Ben Solo?s essence lives on in... Rey Skywalker.

Gosh darn, J.J. is a genius after all :lol
 
Can we pretend that TFA and tros are the only movies in the trilogy. Just feels better to forget the red head step child
 
At least the goonies had to count their paces to get to their perfect spot because a map told them to. Rey just happens to be there . . . by convenience. Rey conveniently happens to be standing in the *one and only spot* on the Endor moon that allows her to perfectly line up the the dagger.

The whole damned movie is a string of conveniences. I know that SW movies all rely on that to some extent, but TROS is nothing *but* plot conveniences. Just think about the dagger and what the story about it ended up being. Count the conveniences:

Rey found that Sith dagger that murdered her parents when she wasn't even looking for it. And it conveniently happens to be a key to finding what she *was* looking for.

It was found because Rey and her friends conveniently crashed onto the same exact sandpit that had trapped Ochi the Sith hunter (what are the odds!?).

The dagger blade is conveniently still perfectly lined up with the outline of the DS2 wreckage (even though that wreckage would've likely changed by way of weather and oceanic elements during the 15 years since the dagger was used on Rey's parents).

She is conveniently capable of expertly navigating a sea-skimmer ship to get to the wreckage. Rey, the *desert* scavenger, was able to sail a sea-faring vessel through brutal ocean waves.

Upon arriving at the DS2 wreckage, there's a door that conveniently is still functioning after all these years. This door, btw, leads to a room that probably wouldn't even exist since the door was on the same wall as one of the windows. Just another convenience.

The wayfinder she went there to get is destroyed in the throne room wreckage by Kylo. But she takes his TIE Fighter which conveniently has the only other wayfinder in the entire galaxy.

But she burns the TIE Fighter on Ahch-To. No problem, though, since the wayfinder conveniently doesn't burn.

The wayfinder conveniently hooks up to an X-Wing that is also conveniently presented to her and ready to fly.

She uses the wayfinder to get to Palpatine and kill him. She's able to kill him (somehow) by conveniently having two Jedi lightsabers with her (which she needs to cross together . . . because that's how it works, duh!).

And that second lightsaber was only given to her moments before, on Ahch-To, because Luke had conveniently kept it in the most "unfindable place in the galaxy" . . . even though he said that Leia had wanted it to end up in someone else's hands. Convenient!

Agreed 100%!

Saw it a second time - and I have to say, although smothered in warm fuzzy "feeling" (which is why so many people are giving it a pass) - I now almost dislike it as much as TLJ - but for different reasons. It's a complete and utter mess - even the most basic film making school on the planet would teach a writer and editor this is not the way it's done.

Your list above barely even scratches the surface of the insane conveniences and contrivances - all thrown at you with such pace so you won't question how poorly held together and nonsensical the story is.

Mind boggling.
 
Beep beep boop bop boop beep.

That is what fans are hearing Mandible. But you're right - it's a great feeling mess, but don't harsh their mellow! :rotfl
 
Thanks Jye, that just might be what it takes to bring me around.

Rey Palpatine is dead.

Ben Solo?s essence lives on in... Rey Skywalker.

Gosh darn, J.J. is a genius after all :lol

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Would you mind telling ajp that the Anakin bloodline has destroyed Palpatine once again lol

And are you sitting down...

Anakin bloodline therefore his midichlorian not only changed Rey from a Palpatine to a Skywalker he also stopped another person from dying so Anakin got the last word in afterall because in ROTS Palpatine robbed him of doing just that.

Even with ALL the Jedi helping Rey it was STILL Anakin who resurrected her into her new post Palpatine life so it was only fitting that she carried the Skywalker name going forward especially since his freaking midichlorians are mixed in with hers.

Anakin literally converted the Sith bloodline into Skywalker bloodline. Rey had to die for that to happen for her Palpatine bloodline to be fully eradicated.

Please let this be the last word that Anakin Skywalker accomplishments were all for nothing in the OT lol

Come here now let Khev give you a hug.

There is no saving a-dev though.

Terminator franchise is dead.

SW franchise is dead.

NECA toys is dead.

2019 no bueno for a-dev lol



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Now that the saga is complete here are my favorite lists:

Best lightsaber battle:

1. Luke Vader ESB
2. Rey Kylo TROS ocean
3. Maul Obi Qui TPM
4. Rey Kylo TFA / Anakin Dooku ROTS tied

Worst lightsaber moment:

Anytime Yoda is holding a lightsaber

Best space battle:

1. ANH (trench runs)
2. RO
3. ROTJ

Best moment in all of SW history:

1. I am your father

Seeing Vader and stormtroopers for the very first time summer of 77 will always be stuck in my head as will the first time I touched a girls breast lol






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Now that the saga is complete here are my favorite lists:

[...]

Best lightsaber battle:

1. Luke Vader ESB
2. Maul Obi Qui TPM
3. Luke Vader ROTJ Obi Vader ANH tied ... for narrative impact, not choreography.

Worst lightsaber moment:

Geonosis arena watching a swarm of ******* Jedis getting slaughtered in the kill-box in spite of their colourful glow sticks and somersaults.

Best space battle:

1. ANH (trench runs)
2. RO
3. ROTJ
4. Millenium Falcon asteroid chase

Best action set-pieces:

1. Battle of Hoth
2. Speeder-bike chase on Endor
3. Jedha insurgent strike RO


Best moments in all of SW history:

1. I am your father
2. ANH Star Destroyer chase Tantive IV
3. Stormtroopers board Tantive IV
4. Yoda raises X-Wing
5. I love you / I know

[...] Seeing Vader and stormtroopers for the very first time summer of 77 will always be stuck in my head as will the first time I touched a girls breast lol


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I was 4 years old and nowhere near action.
 
Now that the saga is complete here are my favorite lists:

Best lightsaber battle:

1. Luke Vader ESB
2. Rey Kylo TROS ocean
3. Maul Obi Qui TPM
4. Rey Kylo TFA / Anakin Dooku ROTS tied

What about Rey & Kylo's battle with the Praetorian Guards in Snoke's throne room? I'd put that before the Rey/Kylo TFA duel.

Worst lightsaber moment:

Anytime Yoda is holding a lightsaber

Best space battle:

1. ANH (trench runs)
2. RO
3. ROTJ

Best moment in all of SW history:

1. I am your father

Seeing Vader and stormtroopers for the very first time summer of 77 will always be stuck in my head as will the first time I touched a girls breast lol






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How Jye "remembers" it...

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What about Rey & Kylo's battle with the Praetorian Guards in Snoke's throne room? I'd put that before the Rey/Kylo TFA duel.



How Jye "remembers" it...

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While I think the Praetorian guard battle is visually stunning I do think it crossed the line into very noticeable choreography. Still a fun battle to look at though.

Look when it comes to just pure action SW is no Winter Soldier.

TWS is hands down the best modern action movie since the LOTR.

But lightsabers are just freaking cool and their presence in TROS is the best they have ever looked and sounded.


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Would you mind telling ajp that the Anakin bloodline has destroyed Palpatine once again lol

And are you sitting down...

Anakin bloodline therefore his midichlorian not only changed Rey from a Palpatine to a Skywalker he also stopped another person from dying so Anakin got the last word in afterall because in ROTS Palpatine robbed him of doing just that.

Even with ALL the Jedi helping Rey it was STILL Anakin who resurrected her into her new post Palpatine life so it was only fitting that she carried the Skywalker name going forward especially since his freaking midichlorians are mixed in with hers.

Anakin literally converted the Sith bloodline into Skywalker bloodline. Rey had to die for that to happen for her Palpatine bloodline to be fully eradicated.

Please let this be the last word that Anakin Skywalker accomplishments were all for nothing in the OT lol

Come here now let Khev give you a hug.

There is no saving a-dev though.

Terminator franchise is dead.

SW franchise is dead.

NECA toys is dead.

2019 no bueno for a-dev lol



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:lol

https://youtu.be/kEztkckjRtE?t=41


Had a thought on why they had Rey ending Palpatine by way of his own force lightning.

It was a way of killing him 'passively', and not in anger and hatred as he needed. Another possible reason why his spirit couldn't pass into her.

As for his failure to change strategy - yeah I think you just have to put that down to stubborn arrogance.

Just a couple of rationalizations that I could probably buy if I were willing to accept this overall storyline for a ST.

That explains all those ?check out the imperials on her? comments.

:lol
 
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https://youtu.be/kEztkckjRtE?t=41


Had a thought on why they had Rey ending Palpatine by way of his own force lightning.

It was a way of killing him 'passively', and not in anger and hatred as he needed. Another possible reason why his spirit couldn't pass into her.

As for his failure to change strategy - yeah I think you just have to put that down to stubborn arrogance.

Just a couple of rationalizations that I could probably buy if I were willing to accept this overall storyline for a ST.



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Holy crap that totally makes sense, nice work!

Wait until Khev reads that you?re getting this:

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This will be Prime gratitude:

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And ajp gratitude:

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And DiFabio gratitude:

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And Clown gratitude:

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Also Prime keeps bringing up that Anakin ignored his own grandson and went to help Rey instead.

How do we know that he was being ignored maybe they were talking to him as well we just never saw it.

Rey was a Palpatine I figured she would be given priority and you know why.....

The force latched on to her because they certainly didn?t want her another Palpatine to turn bad so they stuck with her.

Kylo was already brought to the light Rey was the priority with keeping her on the team.

She died as a Palpatine and was reborn as a Skywalker.




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Also, Ben wasn?t reaching out to the force in a meditative state to hear anybody- homeboy was still climbing out of a pit.
 
While I think the Praetorian guard battle is visually stunning I do think it crossed the line into very noticeable choreography. Still a fun battle to look at though.

Look when it comes to just pure action SW is no Winter Soldier.

TWS is hands down the best modern action movie since the LOTR.

But lightsabers are just freaking cool and their presence in TROS is the best they have ever looked and sounded.


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Yes it's a bit too choreographed, but IMO it's still superior to the Rey/Kylo TFA fight. That excruciatingly long pregnant pause with blades clashed while Rey communes with The Force is where it loses points with me. I almost expected Kylo to say "Hey, I'll wait while you regroup - no rush. Marquess of Queensberry Rules".
 
Holy crap that totally makes sense, nice work!

Wait until Khev reads that you?re getting this:

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This will be Prime gratitude:

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And ajp gratitude:

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And DiFabio gratitude:

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And Clown gratitude:

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:lol :lol :lol

Okay, let's stipulate that a-dev came up with the best rationalization for the lightning nonsense. So now that you've embraced his interpretation that Rey wasn't doing anything aggressive (because she was merely letting Palpatine kill himself with deflected lightning), could you explain to me again how that works with your theory that she was channeling all of the past Jedi to take down Palpatine's superpowered Sith strength?

What is it the combined Jedi were doing, again? If I remember right, it had something to do with riding the lightning and a midichlorian infinity gauntlet. :lol You're the best, jye! :duff

By the way, I'm going to make a list of other questions for a-dev to answer between now and kickoff of the early games. I'll be back in a bit.
 
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