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Would you mind telling ajp that the Anakin bloodline has destroyed Palpatine once again lol

And are you sitting down...

Anakin bloodline therefore his midichlorian not only changed Rey from a Palpatine to a Skywalker he also stopped another person from dying so Anakin got the last word in afterall because in ROTS Palpatine robbed him of doing just that.

Even with ALL the Jedi helping Rey it was STILL Anakin who resurrected her into her new post Palpatine life so it was only fitting that she carried the Skywalker name going forward especially since his freaking midichlorians are mixed in with hers.

Anakin literally converted the Sith bloodline into Skywalker bloodline. Rey had to die for that to happen for her Palpatine bloodline to be fully eradicated.

Please let this be the last word that Anakin Skywalker accomplishments were all for nothing in the OT lol

Come here now let Khev give you a hug.

There is no saving a-dev though.

Terminator franchise is dead.

SW franchise is dead.

NECA toys is dead.

2019 no bueno for a-dev lol



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Anakin brought balance to the force by killing half the jedi hiding in the galaxy. :lol Obi, "Well, from a certain point of view...\_(ツ)_/"

So you're saying his mom's still alive? Good for him!

When you put it that way.

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Okay, a-dev, now that you've answered the Palpatine lightning self-assassination conundrum, take a crack at these: :lol

1.) If the Sith Fleet of death star destroyers can't navigate out of Exogol without a navigation tower signal, how did the Resistance ships navigate out?

2.) If there are only two wayfinders to Exogol, and one nav tower to get out, how were all of the supplies and manpower getting to and from there?

3.) How did Leia know that Rey was a Palpatine? Jedi have the ability to sense someone's lineage now? That would've come in handy when Vader was interrogating Leia in ANH.

4.) If Palpatine created Snoke, and possessed that body with his spirit, what happened to Palpatine's spirit when Snoke was killed? Shouldn't it inhabit the one who "strikes him down?"

5.) When Palpatine was Snoke, his powers were overwhelming Rey. Snoke outmatched her, read her mind, and made her look foolish. So, what does Palpatine need Rey for?

6.) How do the FO TIE Fighters follow Poe's "lightspeed skipping" in real time? How could they possibly know his jump coordinates that quickly?

7.) Is Force lightning something that gets inherited now? It's not something you need to learn how to manifest? Does that mean that Rey is a Sith by birth?

8.) How did all of the planet-hopping adventures happen in the 16-hour timeframe that was given in the movie?

9.) How could Lando possibly recruit and gather that many ships from around the galaxy in much less than 16 hours?

10.) If the Resistance ships were following Rey's signal to R2-D2, how did Lando's Fleet get there afterwards?

11.) Why didn't the Resistance ships fall to the ground (while in Exogol's atmosphere) after Palpatine disabled them?

12.) How did Rey and Kylo know about Force healing and resurrection, but Anakin - under 10-year tutelage of the Jedi council, and with the Jedi library at his disposal - was never aware of it?

13.) How could Palpatine not know about Rey and Kylo's "Force dyad" connection? Wasn't he Snoke? Wasn't he aware of bridging their minds?

14.) How did Rey sense Chewbacca on the star destroyer, but Kylo couldn't sense Rey (his "Force dyad" partner) there when the two of them simply swapped locations?

15.) When Palpatine drained Rey and Ben, and no longer needed either one of them, why flick Ben into a pit and do nothing to Rey? Why not Force choke both?

16.) How did the KOR know that he was Ben not Kylo, and just started attacking him? And why didn't Ben use the Force to subdue them?

17.) If Palpatine could get in Kylo's head to manipulate him from anywhere, couldn't he have done the same with Rey (his own grandaughter) all along?

18.) Did Palpatine know that Leia was going to keep Kylo from killing Rey? It seems that risking it otherwise would've been pretty dumb.

19.) If Luke was looking for a wayfinder with Lando, why didn't Anakin's ghost tell his son about Vader's wayfinder on Mustafar (the one that Kylo took)?

20.) What was Palpatine hoping for when he was Snoke and put Rey was her knees at Kylo's mercy? Did Palps want Rey dead, or want Kylo to kill Snoke? Either way, how does that line up or make any sense?

21.) How did any aspect of Palpatine survive the DS2 explosion? Was the real him on Exogol the whole time?

22.) Where did Kylo find a functioning OT TIE Fighter to get off the Endor moon? And how did it have a hyperdrive?

I got carried away (sorry :lol). I have to stop there since it's kickoff time. But, a-dev, if you want more, I could probably come up with another twenty. TROS is the nonsense gift that keeps on giving. :lol

I admit that some of these are very minor and trivial (and perfectly forgivable); they're no different than the same type of nonsense in every SW movie. But some are true head-scratchers that become plot holes. In totality, TROS is in a league of its own when it comes to curious logic.
 
Agreed 100%!

Saw it a second time - and I have to say, although smothered in warm fuzzy "feeling" (which is why so many people are giving it a pass) - I now almost dislike it as much as TLJ - but for different reasons. It's a complete and utter mess - even the most basic film making school on the planet would teach a writer and editor this is not the way it's done.

Your list above barely even scratches the surface of the insane conveniences and contrivances - all thrown at you with such pace so you won't question how poorly held together and nonsensical the story is.

Mind boggling.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/article/ed3429893124/?ref_=bo_hm_hp
Set to repeat atop the box office is Disney's Rise of Skywalker. The latest installment in the Star Wars franchise delivered the second largest Christmas Day gross all-time on Wednesday and should easily post a better hold over its second weekend than Last Jedi did a couple year back when it dipped -67.5%. Right now we're anticipating a drop around -45% this weekend and a three-day just shy of $98 million for a domestic cume topping $380 million by Sunday.

Haven't asked my bro why he didn't wanna go back. I went back to re-see TLJ partly 'coz of aesthetics - IMO say what u will about TLJ, it's got some spectacular visuals like the AT-ATs lined up at the end. For me - TROS was so fast paced, I still can't pick out a particular scene I just wanna wallow in, visually. IMO it'll be better at home when I can freeze frames. Even TFA had aesthetics I wanted to see again.

Plus there's stuff that just annoys the *&^% me like using a skimmer on waves that size:pfft: -
Rey riding a skimmer over waves bigger than the one that claimed Bodhi at the end of Point Break?(Games Radar)

Might be mind-boggling but Disney's gonna clear its costs; it'll probably clear a billion global easily.
 
Yes it's a bit too choreographed, but IMO it's still superior to the Rey/Kylo TFA fight. That excruciatingly long pregnant pause with blades clashed while Rey communes with The Force is where it loses points with me. I almost expected Kylo to say "Hey, I'll wait while you regroup - no rush. Marquess of Queensberry Rules".

I just received my TLJ 3D disc let me go pour a drink and go watch that scene again.

I will report back my updated findings.


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Had a thought on why they had Rey ending Palpatine by way of his own force lightning.

It was a way of killing him 'passively', and not in anger and hatred as he needed. Another possible reason why his spirit couldn't pass into her.

As for his failure to change strategy - yeah I think you just have to put that down to stubborn arrogance.

Agreed.
 
Yes it's a bit too choreographed, but IMO it's still superior to the Rey/Kylo TFA fight. That excruciatingly long pregnant pause with blades clashed while Rey communes with The Force is where it loses points with me. I almost expected Kylo to say "Hey, I'll wait while you regroup - no rush. Marquess of Queensberry Rules".

To me its not about slashing and dancing.
Its about atmosphere.

The ESB battle was nothing spectacular from a swinging slashing perspective, but the mood of the carbon chamber made it iconic.

We got twirly super choreographed fights in ROTS, and while the location was interesting enough, the fight is so silly it usually ranks pretty low.


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Okay, a-dev, now that you've answered the Palpatine lightning self-assassination conundrum, take a crack at these: :lol

1.) If the Sith Fleet of death star destroyers can't navigate out of Exogol without a navigation tower signal, how did the Resistance ships navigate out?

2.) If there are only two wayfinders to Exogol, and one nav tower to get out, how were all of the supplies and manpower getting to and from there?

3.) How did Leia know that Rey was a Palpatine? Jedi have the ability to sense someone's lineage now? That would've come in handy when Vader was interrogating Leia in ANH.

4.) If Palpatine created Snoke, and possessed that body with his spirit, what happened to Palpatine's spirit when Snoke was killed? Shouldn't it inhabit the one who "strikes him down?"

5.) When Palpatine was Snoke, his powers were overwhelming Rey. Snoke outmatched her, read her mind, and made her look foolish. So, what does Palpatine need Rey for?

6.) How do the FO TIE Fighters follow Poe's "lightspeed skipping" in real time? How could they possibly know his jump coordinates that quickly?

7.) Is Force lightning something that gets inherited now? It's not something you need to learn how to manifest? Does that mean that Rey is a Sith by birth?

8.) How did all of the planet-hopping adventures happen in the 16-hour timeframe that was given in the movie?

9.) How could Lando possibly recruit and gather that many ships from around the galaxy in much less than 16 hours?

10.) If the Resistance ships were following Rey's signal to R2-D2, how did Lando's Fleet get there afterwards?

11.) Why didn't the Resistance ships fall to the ground (while in Exogol's atmosphere) after Palpatine disabled them?

12.) How did Rey and Kylo know about Force healing and resurrection, but Anakin - under 10-year tutelage of the Jedi council, and with the Jedi library at his disposal - was never aware of it?

13.) How could Palpatine not know about Rey and Kylo's "Force dyad" connection? Wasn't he Snoke? Wasn't he aware of bridging their minds?

14.) How did Rey sense Chewbacca on the star destroyer, but Kylo couldn't sense Rey (his "Force dyad" partner) there when the two of them simply swapped locations?

15.) When Palpatine drained Rey and Ben, and no longer needed either one of them, why flick Ben into a pit and do nothing to Rey? Why not Force choke both?

16.) How did the KOR know that he was Ben not Kylo, and just started attacking him? And why didn't Ben use the Force to subdue them?

17.) If Palpatine could get in Kylo's head to manipulate him from anywhere, couldn't he have done the same with Rey (his own grandaughter) all along?

18.) Did Palpatine know that Leia was going to keep Kylo from killing Rey? It seems that risking it otherwise would've been pretty dumb.

19.) If Luke was looking for a wayfinder with Lando, why didn't Anakin's ghost tell his son about Vader's wayfinder on Mustafar (the one that Kylo took)?

20.) What was Palpatine hoping for when he was Snoke and put Rey was her knees at Kylo's mercy? Did Palps want Rey dead, or want Kylo to kill Snoke? Either way, how does that line up or make any sense?

21.) How did any aspect of Palpatine survive the DS2 explosion? Was the real him on Exogol the whole time?

22.) Where did Kylo find a functioning OT TIE Fighter to get off the Endor moon? And how did it have a hyperdrive?

I got carried away (sorry :lol). I have to stop there since it's kickoff time. But, a-dev, if you want more, I could probably come up with another twenty. TROS is the nonsense gift that keeps on giving. :lol

I admit that some of these are very minor and trivial (and perfectly forgivable); they're no different than the same type of nonsense in every SW movie. But some are true head-scratchers that become plot holes. In totality, TROS is in a league of its own when it comes to curious logic.
AJP the sequel trilogy already gave you the answer to these questions..

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To me its not about slashing and dancing.
Its about atmosphere.

The ESB battle was nothing spectacular from a swinging slashing perspective, but the mood of the carbon chamber made it iconic.

We got twirly super choreographed fights in ROTS, and while the location was interesting enough, the fight is so silly it usually ranks pretty low.


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You're not wrong, but we were comparing TFA and TLJ fights, so HUH????
 
But now you love them all... which is even stranger. That one late edition makes the bad ones good? Like there was some mystery piece to a puzzle that suddenly fell into place for you and TLJ at last makes sense?

Oh that simplifies what I said a few pages back.

I stated that that the new film made what the first two films did, especially TLJ, basically harmless and or fixed issues I had problems with. The new film made the other two more watchable.

I will always dislike / hate 70% of TLJ but at least it was made harmless.

And yes there was a puzzle piece put together for me.

I will always dislike the look of TFA and find the 2nd half to be a big bowl of Meh.. But now that we know where Rey comes from (thus why she is so powerful) and that Finn has some force powers himself (Why he does as well as he does against Kylo) and that Han is given a proper send off.. It will make the film more tolerable for me.
 
That missing piece was Wedge.

All it took for JAWS to like the sequel trilogy is to have Wedge show up for a millisecond. That's it. He cried! He clapped!

If the Prequels had kid Wedge picking his nose on Utapau, JAWS would eat that **** up. Wedge: Special Edition updates when? ****, you liked Wedge in Star Wars, Empire and Jedi? Bro, we're gonna take the Carrie Fisher tech to take Wedge's "that got him" scene from Empire and digitally insert Wedge into all the key moments from TPM, AOTC, ROTS, Solo, RO, TFA, and TLJ.

When Obi-Wan slices Darth Maul in half?

"THAT GOT HIM"

When Krennic dies when the Death Star shoots him?

"THAT GOT HIM"

When the Shark pops out of the water and eats Quint?

"THAT GOT HIM"

:lol :lol :lol

To be fair, I was already enjoying the film.. Seeing Wedge was the fan service icing on the cake.

Also Wedge did not make me cry.. But I did clap.. Granted it was not a big loud clap.. Loud enough to let my friends with me know that I was excited :lol

Man you get that "On your left" moment with the John Williams music and then a shot of Wedge... What's not to love :)
 
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Would you mind telling ajp that the Anakin bloodline has destroyed Palpatine once again lol

And are you sitting down...

Anakin bloodline therefore his midichlorian not only changed Rey from a Palpatine to a Skywalker he also stopped another person from dying so Anakin got the last word in afterall because in ROTS Palpatine robbed him of doing just that.

Even with ALL the Jedi helping Rey it was STILL Anakin who resurrected her into her new post Palpatine life so it was only fitting that she carried the Skywalker name going forward especially since his freaking midichlorians are mixed in with hers.

Anakin literally converted the Sith bloodline into Skywalker bloodline. Rey had to die for that to happen for her Palpatine bloodline to be fully eradicated.

Please let this be the last word that Anakin Skywalker accomplishments were all for nothing in the OT lol

Come here now let Khev give you a hug.

There is no saving a-dev though.

Terminator franchise is dead.

SW franchise is dead.

NECA toys is dead.

2019 no bueno for a-dev lol



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Wow.. TROS might just be the best SW movie now. :)
 
So who actually owns the falcon now? I know in the ROS Rey still refers it to Han Solo’s ship, and Chewie has flown it more than anyone else in the movie but somehow it’s always assumed that the falcon is Rey’s which it shouldn’t.
 
Oh man I hope Khev comes on soon :panic

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Believe me the irony is not lost...

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:lol :lol :lol

also :lol @ your previous reactions compilation

You forgot the biggest question for a-dev:

23.) How does ajp4mgs have enough free time to come up with all these questions? :wink1:

:lol


:duff

:lol :lol :lol

To be fair, I was already enjoying the film.. Seeing Wedge was the fan service icing on the cake.

Also Wedge did not make me cry.. But I did clap.. Granted it was not a big loud clap.. Loud enough to let my friends with me know that I was excited :lol

Man you get that "On your left" moment with the John Williams music and then a shot of Wedge... What's not to love :)

Personally I didn't like the way they just wedged him in there for one millisecond shot.

sorry

Okay, a-dev, now that you've answered the Palpatine lightning self-assassination conundrum, take a crack at these: :lol

1.) If the Sith Fleet of death star destroyers can't navigate out of Exogol without a navigation tower signal, how did the Resistance ships navigate out?

2.) If there are only two wayfinders to Exogol, and one nav tower to get out, how were all of the supplies and manpower getting to and from there?

3.) How did Leia know that Rey was a Palpatine? Jedi have the ability to sense someone's lineage now? That would've come in handy when Vader was interrogating Leia in ANH

4.) If Palpatine created Snoke, and possessed that body with his spirit, what happened to Palpatine's spirit when Snoke was killed? Shouldn't it inhabit the one who "strikes him down?"

5.) When Palpatine was Snoke, his powers were overwhelming Rey. Snoke outmatched her, read her mind, and made her look foolish. So, what does Palpatine need Rey for?

6.) How do the FO TIE Fighters follow Poe's "lightspeed skipping" in real time? How could they possibly know his jump coordinates that quickly?

7.) Is Force lightning something that gets inherited now? It's not something you need to learn how to manifest? Does that mean that Rey is a Sith by birth?

8.) How did all of the planet-hopping adventures happen in the 16-hour timeframe that was given in the movie?

9.) How could Lando possibly recruit and gather that many ships from around the galaxy in much less than 16 hours?

10.) If the Resistance ships were following Rey's signal to R2-D2, how did Lando's Fleet get there afterwards?

11.) Why didn't the Resistance ships fall to the ground (while in Exogol's atmosphere) after Palpatine disabled them?

12.) How did Rey and Kylo know about Force healing and resurrection, but Anakin - under 10-year tutelage of the Jedi council, and with the Jedi library at his disposal - was never aware of it?

13.) How could Palpatine not know about Rey and Kylo's "Force dyad" connection? Wasn't he Snoke? Wasn't he aware of bridging their minds?

14.) How did Rey sense Chewbacca on the star destroyer, but Kylo couldn't sense Rey (his "Force dyad" partner) there when the two of them simply swapped locations?

15.) When Palpatine drained Rey and Ben, and no longer needed either one of them, why flick Ben into a pit and do nothing to Rey? Why not Force choke both?

16.) How did the KOR know that he was Ben not Kylo, and just started attacking him? And why didn't Ben use the Force to subdue them?

17.) If Palpatine could get in Kylo's head to manipulate him from anywhere, couldn't he have done the same with Rey (his own grandaughter) all along?

18.) Did Palpatine know that Leia was going to keep Kylo from killing Rey? It seems that risking it otherwise would've been pretty dumb.

19.) If Luke was looking for a wayfinder with Lando, why didn't Anakin's ghost tell his son about Vader's wayfinder on Mustafar (the one that Kylo took)?

20.) What was Palpatine hoping for when he was Snoke and put Rey was her knees at Kylo's mercy? Did Palps want Rey dead, or want Kylo to kill Snoke? Either way, how does that line up or make any sense?

21.) How did any aspect of Palpatine survive the DS2 explosion? Was the real him on Exogol the whole time?

22.) Where did Kylo find a functioning OT TIE Fighter to get off the Endor moon? And how did it have a hyperdrive?

I got carried away (sorry :lol). I have to stop there since it's kickoff time. But, a-dev, if you want more, I could probably come up with another twenty. TROS is the nonsense gift that keeps on giving. :lol

I admit that some of these are very minor and trivial (and perfectly forgivable); they're no different than the same type of nonsense in every SW movie. But some are true head-scratchers that become plot holes. In totality, TROS is in a league of its own when it comes to curious logic.

For most of that my answer is gonna be

https://youtu.be/UR-Xd0wj9M0?t=24


There's one or two in there however that I might try to talk about when I come home drunk later :lol
 
Should any film? I don’t think any person goes into a film hoping that the film is simply “tolerable.”

All films have flaws. But to me it either comes down to you either enjoyed it, or you didn’t, since their purpose is to entertain.
 
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