Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Wor-Gar]

No, it?s to ducky?s post about Vader visiting Tatooine in the Disney Marvel comics.

Correct.

As light reaches out to meet the darkness, so to if there is a rule in the movies, the EU will break it.

 

[Khev]

Well TROS decanonized the entirety of Disney SW comics in one fell swoop with "they fly now" so I wouldn't worry about those anymore, lol.

 

[TheDucky]

I know right. How could they just end RotJ like that?

Oh... wait...

They didn’t though. The OT established there was a senate and the Rebellion had multiple systems and a leadership/political structure. The ST destroyed the New Republic, destroyed the First Order, and the Resistance is still some small little force. There is no structure whatsoever. OT you had a fairly reasonable leap to assume a New Republic would rise based around the rebellion leadership and the once Senate. You can’t say the same with the ST.

As far as the Jedi Order goes, the movie was titled Return of the Jedi. The Jedi return with Luke. The story of the OT doesn’t allow for a Jedi Order to just magically appear. The ST had 30 years to establish a Jedi Order. And they didn’t. Instead, they chose to go with Rey, who mind rapes Kylo downloading his force powers and trains for like a day with Luke. Is she going to reestablish the order? Pretty clear Luke was.

 

[Getter Dragon]

Is Star Wars "spice" supposed to be a drug like cocaine? If so, I just realized that Poe is also a racist stereotype because they got the only actor in the cast who is of Latin-american descent to play a former drug dealer working for a space cartel. Who would have known Poe Dameron was based on Pablo Escobar except racists. Hopefully we get some deleted scenes of Poe eating space tacos while wearing a sombrero. How anyone can defend this Kathleen Kennedy soulless corporate knockoff trash is beyond me. This trilogy consists of the most socially regressive movies I have seen in the last decade.

 

[jye4ever]

DiFabio is on fire and he even weaponized Wor-Gar lol


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[Wor-Gar]

I actually like that Poe finally had a background. To then, for two movies, he was very two dimensional to me. I didn't make the stereotype connection.

I did notice the traditional values in giving Finn a black girlfriend and Poe an equally suitable companion.

That's Disney though: push the boundaries, then come back home.

 

[jye4ever]

First production still of RJ's new trilogy which will explore the dark underbelly of child slavery in the SW universe, lol:

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Yes that new trilogy with Ezra Miller in a slave bikini outfit is going to be super gritty lol


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[TheDucky]

Is Star Wars "spice" supposed to be a drug like cocaine? If so, I just realized that Poe is also a racist stereotype because they got the only actor in the cast who is of Latin-american descent to play a former drug dealer working for a space cartel. Who would have known Poe Dameron was based on Pablo Escobar except racists. Hopefully we get some deleted scenes of Poe eating space tacos while wearing a sombrero. How anyone can defend this Kathleen Kennedy soulless corporate knockoff trash is beyond me. This trilogy are some of the most socially regressive movies I have seen in the last decade.

I saw they did that to Poe too. They changed his entire backstory to do this. Originally he was always a pilot/resistance pilot. They contradict their own comics now As Khev said, they even do it in the movies too with the “they fly now” line.

Just hilarious how the movie, praised for it’s diversity, turns out to be utter stereotypical crap.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Originally he was always a pilot/resistance pilot.

Wait, that's all he's ever been -- a resistance pilot? Where'd he learn to fly? Secret training camps?

Everyone has a backstory, and its usually not what they're doing now (unless they're kids).

My only issue with his backstory was that it was a little too Han Solo-ish.

 

[TheDucky]

Wait, that's all he's ever been -- a resistance pilot? Where'd he learn to fly? Secret training camps?

Everyone has a backstory, and its usually not what they're doing now (unless they're kids).

My only issue with his backstory was that it was a little too Han Solo-ish.

His parents were in the Rebellion and lived on Yavin 4. He was learning to fly A-Wings with his mom when he was a little kid and eventually was trained by Wedge. Pilot his entire life... until they changed it.

I actually like that Poe finally had a background. To then, for two movies, he was very two dimensional to me. I didn't make the stereotype connection.

I did notice the traditional values in giving Finn a black girlfriend and Poe an equally suitable companion.

That's Disney though: push the boundaries, then come back home.

He hooked up with that horse riding chick? I must have forgot that then. Was it like implied and it went over my head?

 

[TaliBane]

Didn't that second lightsaber belong to Leia? if so Leia had no connection to Tattooine so burying it there makes no sense...

Yeah, as Ducky said given the fact it was a dangerous backwater wasteland that Luke despised and couldn't wait to leave - "I'm never coming back to this planet again" - and only briefly returned to to save his friend from scumbag gangsters in a violent battle.

But hey, makes as much sense as Luke handing Leia the dice from the Falcon as a final remembrance of Han in TLJ - objects that Leia likely never even noticed in the Falcon cockpit, at least fro what we saw (she probably looked down and was like "wtf are these? Oh, better say goodbye to Luke now")

And it is tone-deaf to have Rey use the force to dig the hole - get your hands dirty, touch the soil - you're symbolically burying the people, right? To me there are constant signals that these filmmakers really don't understand the bigger thematic/resonant picture in these movies.

 

[Wor-Gar]

His parents were in the Rebellion and lived on Yavin 4. He was learning to fly A-Wings with his mom when he was a little kid and eventually was trained by Wedge. Pilot his entire life... until they changed it.

But what did they do after the Empire fell and before the First Order formed? With no Resistance, what was Poe doing (and his folks)?

What's his timeline, how old is he?

 

[TaliBane]

They can start a new trilogy on Tatooine again with the next new hope finding the Skywalker lightsaber(s) again.

She built some Reyfinders for the next Scooby gang to follow. Broom Girl (retconned) and the non-binary child of Nose lady's lesbian union will be new generation, battling Kylo and Rey's bi-racial daughter (the force works in mysterious ways) and everyone wondering if General Rose Tico really existed or was just a legend.

We'll all still be on here in two decades' time, more sarcastic, posting wtf comments at the new trilogy's 95% rating on RT. Cursing that we ever heard the terms "Star Wars" and even worse, "trilogy," in the first place.

 

[DiFabio]

What's his timeline, how old is he?

A good story, for another time!

 

[Khev]

I'm glad that TROS made Poe an ex-drug runner instead of being born under a Force sensitive tree on Yavin and whatever other stupid backstory KK's "story group" gave him prior to Iger cutting them all loose.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Was it really Carrie's daughter and Nose Lady that did the Lesbo kiss?

 

[TheDucky]

But what did they do after the Empire fell and before the First Order formed? With no Resistance, what was Poe doing (and his folks)?

What's his timeline, how old is he?

Poe is 32. Folks were part of the Battle of Hoth/Endor. Born 2 years after the Battle of Yavin. His folks were just living a normal life after the war. Retired adter a mission with Luke. His mom died when he was like 8-10, not sure how. Joined the New Republic at 18 (I assume) then rose through the ranks, then joined the a Resistance/Rebellion sometime later as his mother once did.

But with the new addition of being a spice runner, he probably joined them in his teens/20s, maybe even younger as some backlash to his mother’s death. He then went back to the New Republic then to the Resistance.

 

[TheDucky]

I'm glad that TROS made Poe an ex-drug runner instead of being born under a Force sensitive tree on Yavin and whatever other stupid backstory KK's "story group" gave him prior to Iger cutting them all loose.

His story was relatively normal. Mom took him on trips in the A-Wing and let him fly as a kid. Peaceful/normal life. Joined the New Republic to be a pilot to follow in his mom’s footsteps. Not everyone needs to have some big backstory. I think adding the spice runner story in was pointless and only weakens the character.

 

[Getter Dragon]

I actually like that Poe finally had a background.

But did they really have to make him an ex-drug dealer considering the actor's racial background? Is that the best billions of Disney dollars could come up with? What was their second choice? Poe used to sell space oranges on the side of a highway?

giving Finn a black girlfriend and Poe an equally suitable companion.

That's Disney though: push the boundaries, then come back home.

Boyega and Ridley have FANTASTIC onscreen chemistry, so naturally, there is NO WAY Disney would allow an interracial couple in Star Wars. Let's not actually be progressive when we can just claim to be on Twitter. The cowards at Lucasfilm can't do what Star Trek did 60 years ago.

Zorri Bliss was nothing more than an attempt to appease any homophobes in the audience. Her role was to assure audience members that Poe was NOT GAY. This character could have been completely left out of the film and would have changed nothing. Poe was in two previous movies without his sexuality being addressed, so Lucasfilm spent millions of dollars to ensure no one even had the slightest thought that Poe might be gay at the end of TROS because you can't have a homosexual main character.

His parents were in the Rebellion and lived on Yavin 4. He was learning to fly A-Wings with his mom when he was a little kid and eventually was trained by Wedge. Pilot his entire life... until they changed it.

So when does he become a drug dealer? I guess they needed him to be a mule flying across space borders. Star Wars needs bigger walls!

I'm glad that TROS made Poe an ex-drug runner

You're OK with it even though it's racist? What if he was an East-Indian actor? Would it have been OK if he drove a space taxi and worked at a Space 7-11?

 

[TaliBane]

Was it really Carrie's daughter and Nose Lady that did the Lesbo kiss?

It was a female resistance pilot, I don't think Carrie's daughter is a pilot - she always seemed to be like tech person like nose lady.

They kiss and then a few shots later, nose lady is leading her off to the forest.