Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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I see Khev in this lol

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Sorry but I disagree. Tros didn?t erase anything and made everything even more confusing. It wasn?t done with a plan it was just thrown together. Nothing felt fixed it felt rushed and hastily put together. Don?t know how some could even see that as been an ending that ties things together. And TLJ is way worse than AOTc. I remember moments from AOTc from TLJ I don?t remember a damn thing. It wasn?t awful like other people say but it was still bad.

I don?t care if the character is a palpatine or not. The character development, story and everything was handled poorly and tros didn?t make me change my mind about that. Maybe you but all I saw was a poorly put together movie that tried to salvage what was broken.

Just horrible writing and story telling. And yes ROTS did save the PT cause it?s still remembered to this day. The ST will be forgotten and TLJ will go down in history as the most hated movie in Star Wars. Sorry to say. Only like 3 people in this whole thread are defending this movie. Same people who defended TLJ.

Well I was never confused by this film.... sure it had some things I had to fill in myself but as I stated before.... i liked SW back when everything wasn?t spelled out for you... probably the worst thing about the PT is spelling everything out... well the acting is worse but spelling everything out may have caused more damage to the SW universe.

As for the PT always being remembered.... that?s true.... But they will and are remembered by most as really poorly made movies with some good fx and a memorable action scene or two. Hell I am one of the few here who will argue for them as I am a SW ***** :lol but they are goofy movies for sure.

As for the ST... I would say they are goofy movies also... I didn?t like TFA on first viewing... Did not like TLJ on second viewing But I felt I was able to accept some of that crap because of TROS.... But I am not saying it?s a great movie.... I thought it captured the feel of SW... More then any of the PT and the other two ST films... if it confused some people I get that... but I thought it was a fun adventure... I?ve watched countless videos bashing the plot holes and story and more than once I laughed out loud.... because I can argue with them lol... But I still enjoyed it lol

I find little beyond them being SW movies to enjoy about the PT and as a whole I find they are far worse made films then the ST in terms of acting and likable characters... Not saying that I love any of the ST characters but I pretty much could care less for the characters in the PT

Perfect example.. I should give a rats ass about Anakin and his wife?s relationship and the fate of it... I should give a rats ass about Ben and Anakins relationship... I should dread him becoming Vader... but since the script and acting made these people impossible to like, root for or identify with I found it impossible to care. I should not care about Rey and Finns relationship more then those mentioned but I did... they didn?t have as much screen time but every time they hug I believe it more then anything in the wooden acting and scripts of the PT

Now I know tagging on the PT is not going to change your mind on anythin... You may like the PT more then the ST and I may now like the ST more then the PT but I think we can both agree that both series are problematic.

I think SW has two perfect films, ANH and ESB. One very good RO. One very flawed but enjoyable, ROTJ... . and the rest are as good as you are willing to put up with (as SW fans I think we put up wi a lot), with TLJ being the only one with truly offensively bad moments but still had some things I really liked. I never cared about The death of Snoke and find that to be one of the best moments in the entire saga.... Can?t say anything like that about AOTC..

Anyways...

Point being... except for two films the SW universe is far from perfect. I accept that now.. Everyone is in love with the Mandalorian and yet I think that show has a ton of flaws also... but I still enjoy it overall... I have learned to accept the SW cinematic universe shortcomings and try to enjoy it for what it is.. TROS somehow got me to this place of thought... After the PT and the two ST films I had all but given up on SW ( other then RO) I was having trouble getting excited for anything SW.. it was weird... I have never felt like that before... I mean I was excited for every PT film when they came out but time had been so unkind to those films and as I stated I did not care for the first two ST films... My inner SW child was dead... The PT and the First two ST films were even affecting my enjoyment of the OT... But TROS allowed me to like the ST better and even find more acceptance for the PT... And I found my love for the OT has returned. I feel like a super fan again... been watching SW movies, listening to the music, watching vintage documentaries, reading the making of books, even bought two SW statues. Granted all of this is OT stuff... but TROS got me back into it.. for that I will always be thankful and look upon the film favorably.


And for the record I am a TROS fan who did not defend TLJ :)
 
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As it crosses the billion mark in the next few days, I'm beginning to wonder if TROS's final worldwide total will beat Minions from five years ago, even unadjusted.

TROS will definitely clear $1.1B, but not sure it'll reach $1.2B. Minions' worldwide is $1.15B unadjusted, and $1.25B adjusted.

It's also likely that TROS will fall at least $100m short of TLJ domestically and $200m short of TLJ worldwide - ironically enough, that's almost certainly due to the response to TLJ (just as TLJ's grosses were inflated by the positive response to TFA.)
 
I finally caught up to jye with viewing #3. 2D Liemax with blasting audio. You know this movie really does have a lot of laughably silly parts (a sentimental snake, wtf lol) but I can't help loving it, lol. I really love every minute of it with it constantly alternating between "great silliness, "great fun," and just plain great. I'm really fine with all of it but can *definitely* see how others would equate the "great silliness" stuff with just plain bad. I mean *only* Rey has two random people come up and ask her her last name, lol. Just so she can say I don't know the first time and Skywalker the second. So silly but I still like the scenes so I can't find fault with them. Thankfully this film just has the magic for me because all of it works.

I?m warming up to the snake though it reminded me of the Conan the Barbarian snake lol

Hell yeah. The babe clad in white linen surrounded by a massive serpent. Total CTB. :rock

There's still stuff I'm realizing I missed on previous viewings like Ben running to help Rey with that blaster and he does the no look shot to the one Royal Guard just like his dad did in TFA. How the heck did I not notice that reference before. And then something was obviously cut because he still has the blaster when the Knights of Ren start to surround him but then when they cut to Rey and back to him the blaster is gone and he fights them empty handed.

I also really liked how after Rey did her big back flip over the wave she instantly looks up expecting Kylo to come flying over it too and that's when she notices that he instead chooses to just walk through it. Of course now knowing that his TIE Interceptor was parked at the end of that causeway I found myself wondering how he stayed dry on his way to the throne room, lol.

3PO is just freaking hilarious in this movie how the hell did they get him so right and with quite a few lines too.
 
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Your name and IP address has been entered into the LFL Story Group database for future reference.:balrog

FYI, after firing, we had Kiri stuffed and added to the LFL museum display for her services to SW continuity.:lecture

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Who is this? Is that Kelly Marie Tran?
 
Which part of the children’s fairytale do you men find unbelievable and have a problem with again? :monkey3
 
Who is this? Is that Kelly Marie Tran?

Kiri Hart, the former Vice President of Development for Lucasfilm and Development lead of the Lucasfilm Story Group. In January 2019 she was found to be mysteriously missing from the Lucasfilm website.

She's currently a consultant for Lucasfilm.
 
Didn't GL himself recommended KK to lead LFL?
Anyway, I don't care about how it does in box office. Lots of excellent movies are not in top 20. Grossings is not a sign of how good a film is. I don't understand why some become overly happy when the movie couldn't reach 1b (i.e. MikeZeroh).
 
Kiri Hart, the former Vice President of Development for Lucasfilm and Development lead of the Lucasfilm Story Group. In January 2019 she was found to be mysteriously missing from the Lucasfilm website.

She's currently a consultant for Lucasfilm.

Thanks I left my glasses so I couldn't recognize her face. :D
 
It's also likely that TROS will fall at least $100m short of TLJ domestically and $200m short of TLJ worldwide - ironically enough, that's almost certainly due to the response to TLJ (just as TLJ's grosses were inflated by the positive response to TFA.)

"TROS! Get to TLJ's box office! TROS!! GET TO TLJ'S BOX OFFICE!!!"

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lol
 
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