Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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The prequel trilogy had its moments. I love the space battle in the opening of revenge of the Sith.


But yeah, despite my dislike of return of the Jedi, I would have to say that has the best space battle. Better than rogue one.
 
I just watched Rogue One again. It sucks.

The space battle is pretty good but these characters are lame.


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Still, it’s the best Disney Star Wars yet.
 
Didn't say it didn't. But its not a space battle.



Its not a battle. Its a chase. Different.

ESB does not fit the category. Sorry.

RO kicks ESB ass as far as epic space battle goes. Period. Full stop.


You guys are so full of cheat.

lulz

Fair enough but for me as long as I get a great extended flying battle it doesn?t specifically have to be in space i?m ok with an ESB type inner planetary battle.

Yes RO is a huge winner.

What if....? :lol

What if... the PT was good.

What if...

lol

I just watched Rogue One again. It sucks.

The space battle is pretty good but these characters are lame.


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Still, it?s the best Disney Star Wars yet.

Did DiFabio just use the word good in a sentence to describe a modern movie especially a Disney one! :thud:

jye conveniently ignores the words sucks and lame lol

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In 20 years the ST will be considered masterpieces by kids who grew up with it. :yess:

So true but this time they'll have a much easier time justifying their love than those who grew up with the PT, lol.

I mean I remember back in the day everybody was saying "man if SW began with TPM there'd be no Saga, no one would care, no one will remember these like the OT" and yet 20 years later here we are. After ROTS I even remember one guy hilariously saying "Man when Vader steps through the door at the beginning of ANH everyone used to say, 'whoa what a badass' but now after ROTS they'll just say 'oh great it's p***y boy again,'" lol. But lo and behold the grown up kids of 2005 actually think he *is* a badass.

I find this guy's videos really endearing because he's almost like me but if I were born in the 90's. He talks about the PT and theorizes about them to this day just like I've always done for the OT and vintage stuff. Kind of interesting to hear his take since he really liked TROS (hated TLJ) but still feels the need to compartmentalize the ST away from the PT/OT because like ajp he just can't allow anything to take away from Anakin's prophecy. He really is worth a listen, IMO. Pretty fascinating to hear someone who's just like us other than being born a decade and a half later.



 
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Lots of people reporting that Colin Trevorrow's Episode IX script "Duel of the Fates" has leaked.

If it's legit it does show why he got partial screen credit for TROS because it looks like they repurposed a number of his ideas.

Movie still opens with Kylo Ren as Supreme Leader hunting on Mustafar but looking for Vader artifacts not Palpatine.

He finds a holocron in Vader's castle showing a hologram message of Palpatine telling Vader "If Luke turns after I die then take him to the Sith Homeworld to train under Tor Valum, Master of the Sith who instructed me." Then the hologram somehow learns that someone other than Vader is watching the message and force lightning's Kylo's face, totally mangling it and causing him to wear a Mando helmet (wtf) for the rest of the movie. Kylo goes to the Sith homeworld, finds the 7,000 year old Sith master and begins to train (he even fights an apparition of Vader as part of the training.)

Rey begins the film training and levitating just like TROS but with Luke's ghost training her instead of Leia but then Rey, Finn, Rose and Poe go to the FO shipyards where Star Destroyers are built to blow up the factories but they get thwarted so end up stealing a Star Destroyer (lol) by Rey mind-controlling the FO flight crew which unfortunately allows the FO to track them back to their base destroy it. The Resistance is still able to escape on the stolen Destroyer again.

Hux is "Chancellor" at Coruscant and publicly executes the admiral in charge of the shipyards for not preventing Rey and the heroes from stealing the Destroyer (by means of a "lightsaber guillotine".)

FO has blocked all interplanetary transmissions so that no planets can communicate with one another (and the FO has occupied almost all of them.)

Finn and Rose have another big adventure where they go to Coruscant to infiltrate the Jedi Temple and send out a warning beacon to all the planets (like Obi-Wan and Yoda did in ROTS) advising of the Resistance and requesting aid.

Finn does meet up with other Stormtrooper deserters and enlists their aid.

Rey has a lightsaber that ignites from her staff handle.

Rey finds a Seer who shows her where Kylo Ren will be (Mortis.) The Knights of Ren find her but she kills them all herself.

Rey and Kylo both go to Mortis and have their final showdown. Ghosts of Yoda, Luke, and Obi-Wan appear urging Kylo to turn but he doesn't and Rey kills him.

Lando still goes and gets lots of ships to help in a big space war above Coruscant. Also sounds like a land battle on Coruscant with the FO headquarters stationed there lifting off from the planet to try and escape but Rose sabotaged it so that it's hyperdrive malfunctions and it blows up (lol.)

Han Solo appears in that one too (but to no avail obviously.)

No Palpatine.

Big twist is that Kylo Ren killed Rey's parents on Snoke's orders.
 
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In 20 years the ST will be considered masterpieces by kids who grew up with it. :yess:

Only if there is a new trilogy in the future to compare it against. Lets hope that never happens.

The only reason the prequels are starting to be shown in a favorable light is because of NOSTALGIA and because the Disney flicks have been pretty bad. I don't think anyone actually thinks Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith are masterpieces.

As far as kids go, it seems like their familiarity with Star Wars is mostly with video games and legos, not the actual movies. More kids probably downloaded the FORTNITE Star Wars DLC than watch TROS.

It's not the 70s, 80s, or 90s anymore. Little zoomers play video games. It's the sad, pathetic boomers and millennials that still obsess over movies, cartoons, television shows and of course, consume the plastic toys. Now Star Wars is for weird incel dudes aged 20-60 that suffer from Peter Pan syndrome, not little kids with ADD growing up with smartphones and ipads. Though I'm sure their Star Wars parents try to force this garbage on them *COUGH* *COUGH*

I'm never showing my son Star Wars. I'll be damned if I let the mouse brainwash my keeds, like Mr. Lucas did to me and two other generations. That little ****as learning about crafts and tools.
 
How exactly does an incel force something onto their kids, lol. Adoption? ;)

Of course media consumption is very different now than 30 or even 10 years ago but because SW has a video game presence (BF2 has worked wonders in keeping the franchise relevant for the Fortnite crowd as my 10 year old son and his friends can attest) and the all important streaming content (thank you Mando) it might not be the singular cultural phenomenon it used to be but it's still a pretty big "thing." At least as far as any pop culture IP *can* be a thing with so many things to choose from now.

As I've said before my 13 year old daughter is just like any other teen with her smartphone/tik tok obsession and was starting to seemingly drift away from SW but just when she thought she was out Baby Yoda memes pulled her and her friends right back in, lol. And she loved TROS so while no, it probably won't ever impact a singular generation the way it did Gen Xer's it does appear to be on track to keep the torch lit for a new generation of fans just like the PT did.
 
We have to figure out a way to make sure that torch gets put out and doesn't get passed down.

Any ideas?
 
We have to figure out a way to make sure that torch gets put out and doesn't get passed down.

Any ideas?

Well probably not rushing out to see TROS on the big screen like you did would have been a start wouldn't you say? See you're part of the problem, admit it! :D

That being said I'm glad that it won't exceed TLJ's BO. I don't want Disney encouraged to bring back Palps again in Episode X, lol.
 
When I saw TROS, me and my crew paid for Jumanji: The Next Level, not for TROS. Just walked right in, theater never checked.

I DID MY PART.
 
Okay good. The sad truth once again is that for a studio to leave well enough alone the final movie *can't* be that profitable.

It's too bad that Solo had to suffer so severely with fans boycotting in the wake of TLJ (since it was a good movie on it's own) but if there had been no Solo flop then Disney never would have gotten the message that people were ready to vote with their wallets and we probably would have gotten an extra hour of Rose Tico doing more stupid crap in TROS as well.
 
Okay good. The sad truth once again is that for a studio to leave well enough alone the final movie *can't* be that profitable.

It's too bad that Solo had to suffer so severely with fans boycotting in the wake of TLJ (since it was a good movie on it's own) but if there had been no Solo flop then Disney never would have gotten the message that people were ready to vote with their wallets and we probably would have gotten an extra hour of Rose Tico doing more stupid crap in TROS as well.

Backlash from TLJ probably had a very small to negligible effect on the success of Solo
-movie came out too soon after the previous one
-very short marketing plan, many people didn't know it existed
-cost way too much
-a film that no one wanted
-it was simply OK
 
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