Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[TaliBane]

Holywood Reporter stating Taika in talks for directing next SW movie.


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I get why it got the Oscar noms (the subject matter is a near guarantee) but I couldn't make it through JJR. Got a little over halfway then had to turn it off. Beautiful production design and costumes though. I really wanted to like it.

And uh... the final ep of Mando was a bit on the weaker side to me (likely because of the second last ep being so epic.)

Sounds like ST 2.0 is gonna be just as much a winner as ST 1.0.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Holywood Reporter stating Taika in talks for directing next SW movie.

Jar Jar Rabbit, lol.

Just what Star Wars needs -- a bunch of long-winded jokey scenes.

Wonder which creature/droid he'll voice this time?

Gladiator Chewbacca will make an appearance

So will Fat Rey

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Just what Star Wars needs -- a bunch of long-winded jokey scenes.

Wonder which creature/droid he'll voice this time?

Gladiator Chewbacca will make an appearance

So will Fat Rey

I'm pretty sure Taika is going to retcon the early beginnings of C3PO. It will be a new origin story chock full of puns and a chance meeting/adventure with Jar Jar.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I definitely see a comedic Taika-style Jedi who basically lies constantly and contradicts his own teachings.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I definitely see a comedic Taika-style Jedi who basically lies constantly and contradicts his own teachings.

Isn't Obi Wan already getting a Disney show?

 

[ironwez20]

Yup he is.

 

[jye4ever]

Jar Jar Rabbit, lol.

perfect

I definitely see a comedic Taika-style Jedi who basically lies constantly and contradicts his own teachings.

Isn't Obi Wan already getting a Disney show?

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[SvenDokki]

Hollywood Reporter stating Taika in talks for directing next SW movie.


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Here we go again...

 

[Khev]

Wasn't he the guy who said he'd never do a SW movie since he likes to actually finish what he begins, lol. If he gets announced then I think that's a guarantee that KK's input has indeed been sidelined in favor of Feige and/or Favreau.

 

[jye4ever]

Wasn't he the guy who said he'd never do a SW movie since he likes to actually finish what he begins, lol. If he gets announced then I think that's a guarantee that KK's input has indeed been sidelined in favor of Feige and/or Favreau.

It is totally connected to Feige/Fav lol

Just give me my Road Warrior - Conan SW style movie already.

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[punisher1974]

Hopefully whatever Disney does with Star Wars will have an outline with story outcome fleshed out before starting production so the story will be cohesive. The biggest fail they had was no plan for the sequel trilogy. I know all of the movies have had some issues with things lining up and nothing is perfect but the overall story in the original trilogy was more interesting with some character growth. The prequel trilogy had a lot of issues as well but there was a goal to them even if the last movie was rushed to fill in all of the blanks George wanted. The newer movies had an overpowered girl with no real growth. Force Awakens for me was Falcon chase on Jakku and Han's death. Last Jedi was Original Battlestar Galactica slow chase and Luke sacrifice. Non Erection of Skywalker was let's blame everything on Emperor Palpatine because our trilogy had no plan.

 

[Khev]

It is totally connected to Feige/Fav lol

Just give me my Road Warrior - Conan SW style movie already.

I bet we'll see lots of Neeson Ghost training McGregor next year.

"A Jedi is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, then you become something else entirely."

"Which is?"

"A ghost, Mr. Kenobi."

 

[Khev]

Hopefully whatever Disney does with Star Wars will have an outline with story outcome fleshed out before starting production so the story will be cohesive. The biggest fail they had was no plan for the sequel trilogy. I know all of the movies have had some issues with things lining up and nothing is perfect but the overall story in the original trilogy was more interesting with some character growth. The prequel trilogy had a lot of issues as well but there was a goal to them even if the last movie was rushed to fill in all of the blanks George wanted. The newer movies had an overpowered girl with no real growth. Force Awakens for me was Falcon chase on Jakku and Han's death. Last Jedi was Original Battlestar Galactica slow chase and Luke sacrifice. Non Erection of Skywalker was let's blame everything on Emperor Palpatine because our trilogy had no plan.

I think that Trevorrow's script (dated prior to the release of TLJ) shows that they had a plan. They just realized that the audience wasn't having major aspects of their plan so like Lucas sidelining Jar Jar in Episodes II and III Disney tried to tone down the wokeness, Rose, Hux, and Princess Leia (for obvious reasons) which caused them to rethink their entire finale.

Honestly I don't see the course of the ST being much different than either of Lucas' two trilogies. Even as late as immediately after the release of ESB they didn't have a clear path on where to go or even how many more films they should make. The PT, which you'd think that George *would* have had a clear outline for had just as many introduced and then discarded plotlines and then other things that were rushed (the entire Clone War, wtf) or brought up out of the blue at the last minute (Force ghosts are explained in an off hand reference two minutes before the trilogy ends??)

 

[darthviper107]

They didn't have a plan, they've said before that each director was given the ability to take it wherever they wanted.

 

[Khev]

I think that Trank, Edwards, Lord, Miller, Trevorrow and apparently even Abrams might say otherwise.

Again, I'm not saying that they had three final drafts for the entire ST all written before TFA started shooting just that their general outline doesn't seem to have been any less set in stone than either of George's trilogies.

Remember that Colin Trevorrow worked on Episode IX for two years before being let go and it was widely reported that he and Daisy Ridley first met at an SNL after party (and she did her little SNL SW audition parody in what, late 2015?) where he took her aside and described Rey's ending which "made her cry." More evidence that Disney had a picture of how it was going to end long before Abrams came in to pinch hit on TROS.

It doesn't even sound like TLJ messed up their original narrative since Trevorrow's script continues the themes of TLJ much moreso than TROS did.

To me it sounds like they did have a plan, saw how it was being received and adjusted it accordingly based on audience reactions and Fisher's passing.

 

[SvenDokki]

They didn't have a plan, they've said before that each director was given the ability to take it wherever they wanted.

Yeah I always found that pretty stupid myself... "Here's the plan guys, we just spent over 4 billion on Star Wars, and now we're going to hand it over to 3 different directors to make 3 different movies, but they'll be a trilogy.. and we have no outline or anything - we're just going to let them wing it! Yay, less work for me! How does that sound?"

 

[punisher1974]

I think that Trank, Edwards, Lord, Miller, Trevorrow and apparently even Abrams might say otherwise.

Again, I'm not saying that they had three final drafts for the entire ST all written before TFA started shooting just that their general outline doesn't seem to have been any less set in stone than either of George's trilogies.

Remember that Colin Trevorrow worked on Episode IX for two years before being let go and it was widely reported that he and Daisy Ridley first met at an SNL after party (and she did her little SNL SW audition parody in what, late 2015?) where he took her aside and described Rey's ending which "made her cry." More evidence that Disney had a picture of how it was going to end long before Abrams came in to pinch hit on TROS.

It doesn't even sound like TLJ messed up their original narrative since Trevorrow's script continues the themes of TLJ much moreso than TROS did.

To me it sounds like they did have a plan, saw how it was being received and adjusted it accordingly based on audience reactions and Fisher's passing.

Too many things to me suggest otherwise. There was no plan. Look at Luke throwing away the lightsaber in last jedi. Then look at how Luke caught it in Rise. They had no plan and were doing damage control. Disney figured hey it's Star Wars so fans will eat it up. No character growth on the journey made for a boring series. I was hoping for better but the stand alone movies were more entertaining and the Mandalorian is better also. They paid 4 billion and have yet to really make use of the rights. I am glad you enjoyed the movies Khev but to me Disney has done better with the Marvel rights with Feige.

 

[Khev]

Too many things to me suggest otherwise. There was no plan. Look at Luke throwing away the lightsaber in last jedi. Then look at how Luke caught it in Rise. They had no plan and were doing damage control. Disney figured hey it's Star Wars so fans will eat it up. No character growth on the journey made for a boring series. I was hoping for better but the stand alone movies were more entertaining and the Mandalorian is better also. They paid 4 billion and have yet to really make use of the rights. I am glad you enjoyed the movies Khev but to me Disney has done better with the Marvel rights with Feige.

Oh I totally get that. I just don't think that conducting damage control equals not having a plan. I think they had a plan, thought it'd be cool if Luke tossed the saber and then haunted Kylo in the next movie (like he said he was gonna do) but then went whoops saber toss bad and changed their course accordingly. In other words they had their playbook but called an audible with TROS.

 

[e30ernest]

There was no plan. Look at Luke throwing away the lightsaber in last jedi. Then look at how Luke caught it in Rise.

I don't think that proves they had no plan. At the most, it proves that they back-tracked on what they had set after TLJ.

I actually wished they took a stand and continued on with the threads from TLJ. They could have toned down the "wokeness" or whatever, but the story threads could have lead somewhere. That would have been a whole lot better than how things ended up IMO.

I'm in the minority though that think TFA was the weakest of the entire ST. That was just a rehash of what we had before, and never really introduced anything new or compelling. At least TLJ tried to do something new, while TROS was just a fun romp.

 

[ajp4mgs]

To me it sounds like they did have a plan, saw how it was being received and adjusted it accordingly based on audience reactions and Fisher's passing.

Trevorrow was fired *before* TLJ even came out. His firing would've had nothing to do with audience reaction to TLJ. In fact, his firing pretty much coincided with their announcement that they were giving Rian Johnson his own trilogy. Fan reaction would've had nothing to do with why they didn't want to go with Trevorrow's story.

I was always one who believed they *had* to have a plan. Especially when they said that the ST movies would go: VII.) Han-centered, VIII.) Luke-centered, and IX.) Leia centered. But it's way too obvious at this point that there was no real plan, and not even a story outline for the ST.

When they decided to scrap all of those years of EU canon, my assumption was that they were doing that so there could be one singular and cohesive universe where the stories would be interconnected between comics, novels, shows, and movies. It made all the sense in the world!

When the comics and novels both had the Palpatine contingency following ROTJ, it seemed to me like the one cohesive vision was being built for how we got to the ST situation with the FO. The "Unknown Regions" started popping up everywhere in printed stories, and Snoke was starting to be portrayed as someone from there who had observed the Empire and had been familiar with Palps. When Sheev was laughing in the TROS trailer, I thought for sure this would be the payoff, and all that Contingency stuff would be revealed on screen. Nope! Palpatine survived all the while and *was* Snoke.

No plan; no cohesive vision between the movies and the other canon; no cohesive vision even within the three movies themselves. Just a complete and total mess. Embarrassingly inept leadership with no true vision and direction. KK and Iger blew it.