Starkiller
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I wasn't too impressed by the demo.
Star Wars: Force Unleashed....
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lerath666
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Leia Never said she remembers Padme, she says she remembers her mother. Likely this is Bails wife who probobly dies when she is Very young, as when Alderaan is destroyed, She mourns her father, and talks of her fater, there is no mention of her mother in the first film.
AFAIK There is no talk of the Delegation of 2000 NOT HAPPENING. During the talks where the Delegation of 2000 was taing place, even padme says "we're not talking about open rebellion" or words to that effect if i remember correctly.
Perhaps, after her death, AND The events that follow, are finaly galvanized by seeing Vader cut down hs own student. This then pushes the delegation of 2000 into becoming an open rebellion.
And besides, book adaptations of video game stories are notorious for getting things wrong. I'll wait till I play the game and see how the story unfolds then.
In addition, Luscarts is a company that TMRFE has more controll over than his liscensing department. i think he's worked with them to some extent with the project, especialy considering that the spin on this game is that it's " the Next OFFICIAL installment" in the star wars saga. IT does override everything.
Since we're talking about What's in the screenplays, and changes, how abouit that Luke was originaly female? OR that Originaly, Luke and Leia were to get together, and Han was to end up with Luke's sister? 11th Hour re-writes of the scrpt caused Several changes to how ROTJ played out. It comes to this, what's on screen Overrides everything else. The delegation of 2000 is non- Film Canon untill GL puts it in a special edition of the movies. much like the jabba scene, or thre biggs anchorhead scene.
Lastly, As it's a game, this is by default, a Pro-eu thread. perhaps you might want to not read it if you think it "blows on principal for being Eu"
AFAIK There is no talk of the Delegation of 2000 NOT HAPPENING. During the talks where the Delegation of 2000 was taing place, even padme says "we're not talking about open rebellion" or words to that effect if i remember correctly.
Perhaps, after her death, AND The events that follow, are finaly galvanized by seeing Vader cut down hs own student. This then pushes the delegation of 2000 into becoming an open rebellion.
And besides, book adaptations of video game stories are notorious for getting things wrong. I'll wait till I play the game and see how the story unfolds then.
In addition, Luscarts is a company that TMRFE has more controll over than his liscensing department. i think he's worked with them to some extent with the project, especialy considering that the spin on this game is that it's " the Next OFFICIAL installment" in the star wars saga. IT does override everything.
Since we're talking about What's in the screenplays, and changes, how abouit that Luke was originaly female? OR that Originaly, Luke and Leia were to get together, and Han was to end up with Luke's sister? 11th Hour re-writes of the scrpt caused Several changes to how ROTJ played out. It comes to this, what's on screen Overrides everything else. The delegation of 2000 is non- Film Canon untill GL puts it in a special edition of the movies. much like the jabba scene, or thre biggs anchorhead scene.
Lastly, As it's a game, this is by default, a Pro-eu thread. perhaps you might want to not read it if you think it "blows on principal for being Eu"
lerath666
Super Freak
One more thing while we're on the topic of screenplays.
54 INT HEADQUARTERS FRIGATE - MAIN DOCKING BAY
The Millennium Falcon rests beyond the stolen IMPERIAL SHUTTLE, which
looks anomalous among all the Rebel ships in the vast docking bay.
Chewie barks a final farewell to Lando and leads Artoo and Threepio up
the shuttle, crowded now with the Rebel strike team loading weapons and
supplies. Lando turns to face Han. Luke and Leia have said their good-
byes and start up the ramp.
HAN
Look. I want you to take her. I mean it. Take her. You need all the
help you can get. She's
the fastest ship in the fleet.
LANDO
All right, old buddy. You know, I know what she means to you. I'll take
good care of her.
She-she won't get a scratch. All right?
HAN (looks at him warmly)
Right. I got your promise now. Not a scratch.
LANDO
Look, would you get going, you pirate.
Han and Lando pause, then exchange salutes.
LANDO
Good luck.
HAN
You, too.
Han goes up the ramp. Lando watches him go and then slowly turns away.
55 INT IMPERIAL SHUTTLE - COCKPIT
Luke is working on a back control panel as Han comes in and takes the
pilot's seat. Chewie, in the seat next to him, is trying to figure out
all the Imperial controls.
HAN
You got her warmed?
LUKE
Yeah, she's comin' up.
Chewie growls a complaint.
HAN
No. I don't think the Empire had Wookiees in mind when they designed
her, Chewie.
Leia comes in from the hold and takes her seat near Luke.
Chewie barks and hits some switches. Han's glance has stuck on
something out the window: the Millennium Falcon. Leia nudges him
gently.
LEIA
Hey, are you awake?
HAN
Yeah, I just got a funny feeling. Like I'm not gonna see her again.
Chewie, hearing this, stops his activity and looks longingly out at the
Falcon, too. Leia puts a hand on Han's shoulder.
LEIA (softly)
Come on, General, let's move.
Han snaps back to life."
This was an allusion to a future event in the origial script that was removed as well
Originaly, Lando does not make it out of the Deathstar He dies a Hero. Personaly, I think
this would have made him a stronger Character. But Ces't La Vie.
Point is, rewrites , editing, and etc changes it. Just becuase it was written down at one point,
does not mean it's still part of the story.
54 INT HEADQUARTERS FRIGATE - MAIN DOCKING BAY
The Millennium Falcon rests beyond the stolen IMPERIAL SHUTTLE, which
looks anomalous among all the Rebel ships in the vast docking bay.
Chewie barks a final farewell to Lando and leads Artoo and Threepio up
the shuttle, crowded now with the Rebel strike team loading weapons and
supplies. Lando turns to face Han. Luke and Leia have said their good-
byes and start up the ramp.
HAN
Look. I want you to take her. I mean it. Take her. You need all the
help you can get. She's
the fastest ship in the fleet.
LANDO
All right, old buddy. You know, I know what she means to you. I'll take
good care of her.
She-she won't get a scratch. All right?
HAN (looks at him warmly)
Right. I got your promise now. Not a scratch.
LANDO
Look, would you get going, you pirate.
Han and Lando pause, then exchange salutes.
LANDO
Good luck.
HAN
You, too.
Han goes up the ramp. Lando watches him go and then slowly turns away.
55 INT IMPERIAL SHUTTLE - COCKPIT
Luke is working on a back control panel as Han comes in and takes the
pilot's seat. Chewie, in the seat next to him, is trying to figure out
all the Imperial controls.
HAN
You got her warmed?
LUKE
Yeah, she's comin' up.
Chewie growls a complaint.
HAN
No. I don't think the Empire had Wookiees in mind when they designed
her, Chewie.
Leia comes in from the hold and takes her seat near Luke.
Chewie barks and hits some switches. Han's glance has stuck on
something out the window: the Millennium Falcon. Leia nudges him
gently.
LEIA
Hey, are you awake?
HAN
Yeah, I just got a funny feeling. Like I'm not gonna see her again.
Chewie, hearing this, stops his activity and looks longingly out at the
Falcon, too. Leia puts a hand on Han's shoulder.
LEIA (softly)
Come on, General, let's move.
Han snaps back to life."
This was an allusion to a future event in the origial script that was removed as well
Originaly, Lando does not make it out of the Deathstar He dies a Hero. Personaly, I think
this would have made him a stronger Character. But Ces't La Vie.
Point is, rewrites , editing, and etc changes it. Just becuase it was written down at one point,
does not mean it's still part of the story.
KrisSolo
Super Freak
54 INT HEADQUARTERS FRIGATE - MAIN DOCKING BAY
[/B]
The Millennium Falcon rests beyond the stolen IMPERIAL SHUTTLE, which
looks anomalous among all the Rebel ships in the vast docking bay.
Chewie barks a final farewell to Lando and leads Artoo and Threepio up
the shuttle, crowded now with the Rebel strike team loading weapons and
supplies. Lando turns to face Han. Luke and Leia have said their good-
byes and start up the ramp.
HAN
Look. I want you to take her. I mean it. Take her. You need all the
help you can get. She's
the fastest ship in the fleet.
LANDO
All right, old buddy. You know, I know what she means to you. I'll take
good care of her.
She-she won't get a scratch. All right?
HAN (looks at him warmly)
Right. I got your promise now. Not a scratch.
LANDO
Look, would you get going, you pirate.
Han and Lando pause, then exchange salutes.
LANDO
Good luck.
HAN
You, too.
You know, I've always had a soft spot for you too.
LANDO
Han... I always suspected but... was afraid...
Han
Afraid? Of rejection? Never.
The two embrace passionately.
Han
I wish I could quit you...
Ah, would could've been...
[/B]
The Millennium Falcon rests beyond the stolen IMPERIAL SHUTTLE, which
looks anomalous among all the Rebel ships in the vast docking bay.
Chewie barks a final farewell to Lando and leads Artoo and Threepio up
the shuttle, crowded now with the Rebel strike team loading weapons and
supplies. Lando turns to face Han. Luke and Leia have said their good-
byes and start up the ramp.
HAN
Look. I want you to take her. I mean it. Take her. You need all the
help you can get. She's
the fastest ship in the fleet.
LANDO
All right, old buddy. You know, I know what she means to you. I'll take
good care of her.
She-she won't get a scratch. All right?
HAN (looks at him warmly)
Right. I got your promise now. Not a scratch.
LANDO
Look, would you get going, you pirate.
Han and Lando pause, then exchange salutes.
LANDO
Good luck.
HAN
You, too.
You know, I've always had a soft spot for you too.
LANDO
Han... I always suspected but... was afraid...
Han
Afraid? Of rejection? Never.
The two embrace passionately.
Han
I wish I could quit you...
Ah, would could've been...
Outer_Rim
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Screenplays are the movies on paper. When Lucas makes changes in the movie, those changes are captured in the final screenplay. You can clearly see it with the Episode 3 screenplay, after all the changes Lucas made to the film, the screenplay is still 100% accurate to the movie. There is nothing in the screenplays that contradicts the movies.
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I think the thing that throws a wrench in it for most people is that Luke specifies "your real mother". And the impression I always got from the way Luke is asking is that because Luke knows that would be the mother they share. So she had to have Bail's wife and another woman to consider either her real mother or second mother. So its completely possible Leia thought Luke meant her real mother as Bail's wife when she was little and he was remarried.
lerath666
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Outer_Rim;1144706[U said:
having just recently finished taking a Course on screenplays, I can say you are wrong on that good sir. The screenplay is a script and a guideline on HOW to make the movie. It's not a rigid law, nor is it the word of god. it's simply a guidline. the director/editor is free to throw out any sequence he feels doesn't fit, thus making it ot part of the movie.
lerath666
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Could be. As i said earlier, Jedi suffers from numerous 11th hour re-writes and the compression of what was originaly 4 films down into one. the ghost of Obi-wan having a "fireside chat" with luke where he deus ex machana's all the secrets is another example. I think TMRFE made more than a few mistakes when everything was shunted together.
Outer_Rim
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All the changes made during production and post-production are captured in Lucas´screenplay. Sequences that are detached from the story are not in the screenplay, like Grievous killing Shaak Ti for example. And those that are important, even if he deleted them because he wanted to focus on other plots, are in. Or in other words, the screenplay he uses during filming is not the same one we got.
Anyway, I would give more relevance to the screenplay rather than a game/novel in which Lucas didn´t even take part .
A grain of salt (because its EGM) but the new issue of EGM arrived today and their review of the game was not too flattering. They gave it a C overall.
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Ah, I didn't know the events in Jedi would have slowly unfolded in a second trilogy. I knew there was talk of it SW being 9 movies, but always thought Jedi as it is ended one trilogy and another would start. Personally though I think that Lucas never had enough of a structure for the movies to avoid contradictions and such. I think of it in terms of Harry Potter where Rowling had extensive outlines and such and knew all the major events in advance whereas Lucas, to me, seems to make the story as he goes along.
From the EGM review:
STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED
Midi-Chlorian count: pretty low
The Good: Force powers
The Bad: Combat
The Horror: Sound glitches in the PS3 version, getting stuck in walls in both versions (PS3/360)
"As it turns out, some of the enemies find a way to negate your best Force powers with energy shields and other technical sorcery, which effectively gimps the one genuinely entertaining aspect of TFU's third-person action. Sure, it makes sense that you can't just pick up every single enemy and fling them around -- the game would be too easy if that were the case -- so you're forced to find other ways of defeating your dumb opponents. Still, it's just not very fun when a game called The Force UNLEASHED falls back on sloppy combat mechanics as a means to challenge you... especially when vaguely unresponsive controls (imagine playing an online action game where a slight bit of lag haunts you the entire way) render combo attacks less than useful."
"It's hard to overlook the rough execution. The levels are so huge that they border on sprawling-- but in that bad way that makes you wish the level would just end already. The camera forces you to do all of the work, too, making every step feel twice as laborious as it should. Finally, character animations and enemy A.I. are so clunky that the whole thing feels like a mediocre third-person action game from 1999-- when in reality, its a mediocre third-person action game from 2008. An ambitious, yet ultimately dissatisfying, effort."
Ouch.
STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED
Midi-Chlorian count: pretty low
The Good: Force powers
The Bad: Combat
The Horror: Sound glitches in the PS3 version, getting stuck in walls in both versions (PS3/360)
"As it turns out, some of the enemies find a way to negate your best Force powers with energy shields and other technical sorcery, which effectively gimps the one genuinely entertaining aspect of TFU's third-person action. Sure, it makes sense that you can't just pick up every single enemy and fling them around -- the game would be too easy if that were the case -- so you're forced to find other ways of defeating your dumb opponents. Still, it's just not very fun when a game called The Force UNLEASHED falls back on sloppy combat mechanics as a means to challenge you... especially when vaguely unresponsive controls (imagine playing an online action game where a slight bit of lag haunts you the entire way) render combo attacks less than useful."
"It's hard to overlook the rough execution. The levels are so huge that they border on sprawling-- but in that bad way that makes you wish the level would just end already. The camera forces you to do all of the work, too, making every step feel twice as laborious as it should. Finally, character animations and enemy A.I. are so clunky that the whole thing feels like a mediocre third-person action game from 1999-- when in reality, its a mediocre third-person action game from 2008. An ambitious, yet ultimately dissatisfying, effort."
Ouch.
Lucasarts does it again it seems.
Well, I'll make up my own mind after I play the game myself but it does kinda give you the impression that we might be in for another LFL/LucasArts "Gotcha!".
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xbox mag rated it a few weeks ago.
That sucks.
I think it'll be fine-to my perspective.
But I really think they should have gone more of the Jedi Knight route. That could have made some mean lightsaber battles.
And they really should have released a PC version. I swear, PC is going to make a big comeback that will make consoles ridiculous.
I think it'll be fine-to my perspective.
But I really think they should have gone more of the Jedi Knight route. That could have made some mean lightsaber battles.
And they really should have released a PC version. I swear, PC is going to make a big comeback that will make consoles ridiculous.
shaun-o
Super Freak
I'm gonna wait for the Greatest Hits. I decided I wanted Silent Hill 5 at the end of the month more.
McHavyck
Super Freak
7.5 is still a decent score. sure, it may have some issues but we've been playing Gears for the last 2 years, despite the glitches.
i really liked the demo.
