Star Wars On Blu-Ray

[Darth Snoopy]

I thought TPM looked pretty damn awesome last night. Almost all of the CGI looked really quite real I thought.

Yuppers. I was really surprised when watching TPM last night.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I haven't seen the TPM yet on BR, but I will say on Predator some scenes it's really noticeable and some scenes you can't tell at all. Both versions of Predator have their positives and negatives.

No doubt. The latest Predator is really obvious in the beginning with the man-shake scene. Dutch and Dillon look like they rubbed vaseline all over their faces.

I didn't notice anything major in TPM scenes I watched, but the audio was pretty outstanding IMO.

 

[EndoSickness]

Got my copy yesterday too, together with the only steelbook edition germany got of Thor. 4000 pieces exclusive BR/DVD/Digital Copy to walmart-like groceries and multimedia-store "Mueller".

Just watchin' Episode II, but started yesterday with Episode IV, cause I was stoked how the picture would look and I'm amazed: It looks way better then Bttf 25th, even though it's 10 years older and don't get me wrong, Marty, Doc and the DeLorean looked awesome.

Overall it's an awesome box and experience and I'm worshipping SW all Sunday I guess. It was expensive, but all worth it.

 

[Rorywan]

A TV can be smaller than 50" to appreciate 1080p
It's more to do with distance from the set, so a 40"

480p resolution, you must sit: 12 feet
720p resolution, you must sit: 8 feet
1080p resolution, you must sit: 5 feet

For a 50"
480 would be 15 feet
720p - 10 feet
1080p - 7 feet

So yes a 50" is better because the further away you are the better, but you can still appreciate 1080p if you want to move the seats closer

Your chart is correct but not relevant, it's specifically about the distance from screen?
Yes, of course you can appreciate 1080p on a smaller screen, up until 6 months ago I only had a Sony 40" but everything looks pretty sharp when the full resolution of the BD isn't "stretched or expanded" to it's on screen pixel capacity. Which for 1080p is 50" or larger. Nothing to do with your distance from the screen it's about pixels per square inch on the screen? It's when something is fully expanded you can see it's true PQ? Of course you can sit further back as you suggest, but that's not the point, it's comparing like for like. ANH looks pin sharp in places whilst TPM doesn't despite being a much newer and quite beautiful visually.

I have to say the first thing I noticed about these releases is the 20th century fox logo, the first one (specifically for home entertainment) is pin sharp, whilst the opening 20th CF logo sequence on the actual movies is soft.

 

[jye4ever]

Ahh, so nice to see real actors dressed in stormtrooper outfits who when shot look great falling down because they actually have real weight to them and actually occupy real space.

Hey, is everyone aware that "The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute"

 

[Khev]

Add me to the "TPM looks utterly fantastic" crew. The original 2001 DVD transfer was horrific, and the Spike TV HD broadcasts were only marginally better. I love the new look of TPM, and I did recognize how terrible the DNR was for Predator. I don't think that is the case for TPM at all.

 

[thenammagazine]

Wow, there sure are a lot of "Lucas gave me chronic IBS!" posts here.

 

[Shropt]

Real question. Are the original prequel deleted scenes from the DVDs not on the Blu-ray release? What the hell?

 

[IrishJedi]

Add me to the "TPM looks utterly fantastic" crew. The original 2001 DVD transfer was horrific, and the Spike TV HD broadcasts were only marginally better. I love the new look of TPM, and I did recognize how terrible the DNR was for Predator. I don't think that is the case for TPM at all.

Selective reasoning? It's the same exact technical process, dude. With the same results. They take a film transfer and digitalyl reduce the visual "noise" (i.e. any grain whatsoever) to where it's akin to taking a photo with a professional 35mm SLR camera, scanning it, then touching it up via Photoshop to the point where the image is essentially airbrushed and animated. Maxim magazine & Playboy would be proud.

 

[IrishJedi]

Real question. Are the original prequel deleted scenes from the DVDs not on the Blu-ray release? What the hell?

No, they are not.

As to the second question... ask Lucasfilm. That's basically the question I and many others would ask of this entire release.

 

[Khev]

Selective reasoning? It's the same exact technical process, dude. With the same results. They take a film transfer and digital reduce the visual "noise" (i.e. any grain whatsoever) to where it's akin to taking a photo with a professional 35mm SLR camera, scanning it, then touching it up via Photoshop to the point where the image essentially airbrushed and animated.

It has nothing to do with selective reasoning. I've seen the screenshots of the Predator blu and they look terribly wax-like and phony. I don't see that with TPM thank God.

On another note it looks like not even the theatrical ROTS escaped this release unscathed. When the clone troops show up at Utapau you can hear them shouting, "Move out, let's go, let's go, let's go!" as they drop down from the gunships behind General Grievous.

Its actually kind of a cool change and makes them sound a little colonial marine-ish but damn if Lucas can't ever just leave well enough alone.

 

[IrishJedi]

It has nothing to do with selective reasoning. I've seen the screenshots of the Predator blu and they look terribly wax-like and phony. I don't see that with TPM thank God.

Well, DNR is DNR so I don't know what else to tell ya. Maybe TPM doesn't look quite as wax-like as PREDATOR to you, but they definitely used the same process on it instead of actually going back to the masters and doing a true HD transfer from the source.

 

[Darth Mitchell]

The thing is Lucas is gonna make the movies even worst every time. That's why the PT wasn't touched. Because it sucks allready. And lucas is gonna do the same to the OT

 

[sithlord13]

It seems so strange that so many of us on these boards have asked time and time again for a pure high quality transfer of the ORIGINAL original trilogy.
I guess it ain't gonna happen. Ever. I wonder if the prints are even available anymore - remember when the 1997 editions came out they said the prints and film stock was in a bad way.

 

[Khev]

Well, DNR is DNR so I don't know what else to tell ya. Maybe TPM doesn't look quite as wax-like as PREDATOR to you, but they definitely used the same process on it instead of actually going back to the masters and doing a true HD transfer from the source.

I'm not saying that DNR wasn't employed but either there's varying levels of offense (with TPM being on the far low end) or there's some kind of placebo going on with me. The edge enhancement on the TPM DVD was quite atrocious to me and I'm more than happy with the end result of the blu-ray.

 

[IrishJedi]

It's not gonna happen. Why even think that when we can't even get a true high-quality, source-to-HD transfer of the
Special Editions and TPM? It's all DNR or botched color-timing now.

People focus on the cgi additions, but the real digital mother____ery has happened to the film transfers themselves. And that's the movies Lucas cares about (the PT and perpetually altered OT). The original versions don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of seeing a true restored HD release. Not officially, anyway.

 

[thenammagazine]

It's not gonna happen. Why even think that when we can't even get a true high-quality, source-to-HD transfer of the
Special Editions and TPM? It's all DNR or botched color-timing now.

People focus on the cgi additions, but the real digital mother____ery has happened to the film transfers themselves. And that's the movies Lucas cares about (the PT and perpetually altered OT). The original versions don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of seeing a true restored HD release. Not officially, anyway.

So I take it this means you're watching the "magically appeared" BR set?

 

[IrishJedi]

No. I still can't decide what to do with it, actually. Open, suck it up & watch? Keep sealed & sell? Keep sealed & set on fire?

 

[jedibear]

^^^^ I was wondering that myself.....

 

[jye4ever]

One thing I will give TPM, it sure has an awesome soundtrack.

The Pod Race still sounds awesome 12 yrs later.