Star Wars On Blu-Ray

[Matt S]

I am proud to say I have NOT bought the new set....just over the movies

 

[thenammagazine]

I can only speak for myself but I disagree. The acting or how they acted really is 110% the same and the love scenes/lines are equally as bad. Obviously you feel differently which is fine.

I dunno. I'd argue that there is 10x the chemistry between Ford and Fisher than there was between Christensen and Portman. She showed more chemistry with McGregor on the Mtv Movie Awards that year.

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[Khev]

I've read the Annotated Screenplays a few times (but not in recent years) but I defnitely don't recall it mentioning characters that evoked images of Jake Lloyd on Tatooine, young Queen Amidala or Darth Maul or situations like the trade embargo and forced treaty. I assumed those were all new story evolutions concocted by George years after completing the OT.

If the Annotated Screenplays did make such references then I simply forgot. The memory banks of my geekdom are definitely starting to show their age.

 

[The Josh]

I dunno. I'd argue that there is 10x the chemistry between Ford and Fisher than there was between Christensen and Portman. She showed more chemistry with McGregor on the Mtv Movie Awards that year.

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Well, its a bit better I agree.

 

[IrishJedi]

I've read the Annotated Screenplays a few times (but not in recent years) but I defnitely don't recall it mentioning characters that evoked images of Jake Lloyd on Tatooine, young Queen Amidala or Darth Maul or situations like the trade embargo and forced treaty. I assumed those were all new story evolutions concocted by George years after completing the OT.

If the Annotated Screenplays did make such references then I simply forgot. The memory banks of my geekdom are definitely starting to show their age.

Yeah, those references are in The Annotated Screenplays. But you won't see me needling you for your age.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I've read the Annotated Screenplays a few times (but not in recent years) but I defnitely don't recall it mentioning characters that evoked images of Jake Lloyd on Tatooine, young Queen Amidala or Darth Maul or situations like the trade embargo and forced treaty.

I don't either. I just glanced at this one and already right in the beginning there's a planet called Utapau. I don't recall that either. Seems like someone would have mentioned this over the last 6 years.

This smells fishy. Like Lucas trying to uniform his vision and creation history through the misinformation machine that is the internet. Where do these annotated screenplays come from anyway? Seems there's many versions of the original SW screenplay out there and new versions always seem to pop up.

Is Mace Windu's Journal of the Whills the very first Star Wars "screenplay" that Lucas wrote or not? I've always believed that is the source of all of Lucas' SW ideas.

 

[Darthrazz]

In fact, he had an even more throrough outline for how it would all wrap up than he did for the prequels... until he scrapped it just before ROTJ and went for the Saturday family movie approach.

What was the ending supposed to be?

 

[darthviper107]

Well there were like 4 versions of the original script that were vastly different from each other.

 

[Khev]

What was the ending supposed to be?

Vader would be redeemed at the end of ROTJ and die (as he did.) Leia would be made "Queen" of her people and depart from Luke. Luke and his twin Jedi sister (not Leia) would join forces to kill Palpatine at the end of Episode IX. A frozen character from the PT was supposed to awaken and be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[IrishJedi]

I don't either. I just glanced at this one and already right in the beginning there's a planet called Utapau. I don't recall that either. Seems like someone would have mentioned this over the last 6 years.

Utapau was what Tatooine was originally going to be called.

IIs Mace Windu's Journal of the Whills the very first Star Wars "screenplay" that Lucas wrote or not? I've always believed that is the source of all of Lucas' SW ideas.

There is no Journal of the Whills. That was just a concept idea that was never expanded upon. That's why it's probably the one SW item that still has some mystique to long-time fans. Lucas hasn't gotten around to ruining it yet.

The source of everything is 2 boxes of hand-written spiral bound notebooks in which Lucas either wrote down raw, broad ideas or story treatments. There was no real master plan for everything... it's all over the place.

 

[Khev]

I don't either. I just glanced at this one and already right in the beginning there's a planet called Utapau. I don't recall that either. Seems like someone would have mentioned this over the last 6 years.

This smells fishy. Like Lucas trying to uniform his vision and creation history through the misinformation machine that is the internet. Where do these annotated screenplays come from anyway?

The Annotated Screenplays was a book released in stores in 1997 but has been out of print for a number of years now. Lots of juicy information though, and Utapau was definitely mentioned.

 

[Khev]

Yeah, those references are in The Annotated Screenplays. But you won't see me needling you for your age.

My geekdom is definitely OT specific (despite my PT apologetic tendencies) and still probably pretty tame by today's standards. Its weird watching a SW movie and have my daughter say "what are those guys called?" about the aliens Obi-Wan meets on Utapau or the planet where Padme gives birth and to have me respond, "uh, I actually have no idea."

 

[jye4ever]

Only retroactively, in my view. Clearly the OT is Luke's story. Yes, it culminates with Vader's death, so ROTJ wraps up Vader's story arc, but for the first two films he's simply the antagonist (albeit a charismatic one with key connections to other major players of course). It isn't until ROTJ that Vader does anything more than chase down the key rebels and try to convert his son to the dark side, and even there the change in Vader's perspective doesn't happen until the very end. So, he's a pretty static character in Star Wars and Empire. If all the movies were always about him, first and foremost, then it seems like he would've experienced more change and development in those other films.

It was never about Vader back then...meesa meesa thinks

Ok, maybe just a little

 

[Wor-Gar]

The enigma of SW origins....

I never knew that about Utapau. And I could have sworn the Journal of the Whills was what Lucas originally submitted to Fox, the "treatment" that no one could understand.

Sometimes legends are more fun than fact.

 

[Darthrazz]

Wasn't Tatooine named after a town in Tunisia during filming?

 

[jye4ever]

Utapau was what Tatooine was originally going to be called.


There is no Journal of the Whills. That was just a concept idea that was never expanded upon. That's why it's probably the one SW item that still has some mystique to long-time fans. Lucas hasn't gotten around to ruining it yet.

The source of everything is 2 boxes of hand-written spiral bound notebooks in which Lucas either wrote down raw, broad ideas or story treatments. There was no real master plan for everything... it's all over the place.

 

[Darthrazz]

Does anyone seem to recall something about a flood in ROTJ? I swear I recall reading back in 1983 about a flood scene being filmed?

 

[IrishJedi]

Wasn't Tatooine named after a town in Tunisia during filming?

Yes, as a matter of fact. Tataouine is the town they stayed in while filming in Tunisia.

Incidentally, Fox gave a nod to this by setting a scene in Tataouine, Tunisia at the end of the first X-FILES movie in 1997.

No flood in ROTJ. Sure you're not remembering reading about filming the tunnel sequence in Temple of Doom, which was just a year later?

 

[CollectorNC]

https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Journal_of_the_Whills

Rather surreal. I honestly never heard of it until today...

 

[CollectorNC]

https://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/journalofthewhills.html