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You know, I wonder why Lucas never used the whole "Son of the Suns" thing with Anakin and the prophecy in the PT. Especially since he has someone yell it on Coruscant during the new victory celebration in ROTJ.
 
Wasn't the "Keeper of the Whills" some egyptian, either ancient or modern, that found R2D2 buried in the sand, turns out Tatooine was Earth or he ended up on Earth?

Or was I on crack when I recall hearing about that.
 
Wasn't the "Keeper of the Whills" some egyptian, either ancient or modern, that found R2D2 buried in the sand, turns out Tatooine was Earth or he ended up on Earth?

Or was I on crack when I recall hearing about that.

Reading that one link, there was discussion of Lucas trying to link the SW universe to ours. lol
 
Irish, you seem well-versed in this whole thing; what's the truth? Where did SW start?

What do you mean? Longest story short, it went down like this:

Lucas actually wanted to remake the Flash Gordon serials he loved as a kid as a modern movie. Francis Coppola actually helped him look into securing the rights, but they could never nail them down. So Lucas just decided to create his own serialized space fantasy and started by writing down all of these kooky, abstract names and ideas. Later on, he was forced to make it more sensible and linear so he started infusing ideas from other classic motifs (mythology, Kurosawa films, cowboy movies, the Flash Gordon serials themselves, etc) and the rest his history.

But he has pretty much made it all up as he goes along, though he has obviously gone back and reused ideas, names and such.
 
You know, I wonder why Lucas never used the whole "Son of the Suns" thing with Anakin and the prophecy in the PT. Especially since he has someone yell it on Coruscant during the new victory celebration in ROTJ.

But wasn't Anakin the son of the Whills (midichlorian / force / santa claus), hence being born on the planet with 2 sons.

I'm so confused now :lol

Screw this, i'm naming my next cat Whills.
 
But wasn't Anakin the son of the Whills (midichlorian / force / santa claus), hence being born on the planet with 2 sons.

I'm so confused now :lol

You're rightfully confused. Lucas didn't come up with the concept of Force bacteria (midi-chlorians) until writing EP1. This is likely because he just didn't have the balls to keep The Force as strictly mystical/supernatural/spiritual. So he went for the generic sci-fi approach, and failed laughably.
 
You're rightfully confused. Lucas didn't come up with the concept of Force bacteria (midi-chlorians) until writing EP1. This is likely because he just didn't have the balls to keep The Force as strictly mystical/supernatural/spiritual. So he went for the generic sci-fi approach, and failed laughably.

Danger Whills Robinson, Danger! :panic:
 
Wasn't the "Keeper of the Whills" some egyptian, either ancient or modern, that found R2D2 buried in the sand, turns out Tatooine was Earth or he ended up on Earth?

Or was I on crack when I recall hearing about that.

Isn't that any given day though? :dunno

Sure you're not mixing up Indy nods to SW with 3PO and R2 on the walls in hieroglyphics?

SW has been linked to our universe from the very beginning, as "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away," implies.

:lecture:lecture:lecture :exactly::goodpost:
 
What do you mean? Longest story short, it went down like this:

Lucas actually wanted to remake the Flash Gordon serials he loved as a kid as a modern movie. Francis Coppola actually helped him look into securing the rights, but they could never nail them down. So Lucas just decided to create his own serialized space fantasy and started by writing down all of these kooky, abstract names and ideas. Later on, he was forced to make it more sensible and linear so he started infusing ideas from other classic motifs (mythology, Kurosawa films, cowboy movies, the Flash Gordon serials themselves, etc) and the rest his history.

But he has pretty much made it all up as he goes along, though he has obviously gone back and reused ideas, names and such.


I got that. I guess I meant what do people consider the first true Star Wars "treatment" or "screenplay"? Is that the annotated versions?
 
Not sure how that links it to ours. ;)

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Did anyone notice in ESB, when Luke was on Hoth, and Obi-wan's ghost appeared and said " You must go to the Degobah system, there you will meet Yoda, the Jedi Master that instructed me.

That was fine for me, but I wonder when Lucas wrote the script for TPM and added Qui-gon, didn't he realize that he had Obi-wan state that "Yoda" was his jedi master and instructor.

I just thought it was weird for the longest time after I saw TPM. I know it's really no big deal, but it had me wondering which idea was right for Lucas in the SW universe. With all the editing and changing of the lines he has done to the Blu rays, I thought maybe he would change that. :dunno
 
Did anyone notice in ESB, when Luke was on Hoth, and Obi-wan's ghost appeared and said " You must go to the Degobah system, there you will meet Yoda, the Jedi Master that instructed me.

That was fine for me, but I wonder when Lucas wrote the script for TPM and added Qui-gon, didn't he realize that he had Obi-wan state that "Yoda" was his jedi master and instructor.

I just thought it was weird for the longest time after I saw TPM. I know it's really no big deal, but it had me wondering which idea was right for Lucas in the SW universe. With all the editing and changing of the lines he has done to the Blu rays, I thought maybe he would change that. :dunno

I believe the youngling scene in AOTC was supposed to convey that all Jedi first learn the fundamentals of the Force from Yoda at an early age before going out into the field as padawan learners. They broke protocol with Anakin and allowed Obi-Wan to do double duty in instructing him, partly due to Anakin's age and in part due to the consensus that his apprenticeship was not endorsed by all the Council Members.

If George had ironed that all out in advance he probably would have had Ben say, "There you will learn from Yoda, the first Jedi Master who instructed me," or something to that effect, but honestly that info would have hardly been important to Luke at that specific moment in time.
 
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