Star Wars: The Acolyte

[Sixth Scale Man]

Yeah, I love RO and think that Solo was solid as well. And though I did enjoy the ST when it was released I've pretty much joined the folks who say that the Saga ended with ROTJ's uplifting finale or if I'm feeling generous Mando Season 2 or REALLY generous Mando and Grogu chillin' at the end of Season 3, lol.

Totally agree. I feel the same about Indy, Henry, Sallah and Marcus riding into the sunset. Thankyou. We’re done now. That was fun. Goodbye!

 

[Khev]

Yeah I've never understood the desire to turn the Jedi into a bunch of solemn monks, because that was never the impression I got from Guinness's portrayal of Obi-Wan or his story about Anakin. He actually made the Jedi seem cool and fun.

Yeah and in ROTJ when Obi-Wan's ghost was sharing all the dirt on Anakin he didn't say "plus he got married and had you and your sister which is a big no no." The whole celibacy thing just randomly became a thing with AOTC.

 

[chrisstbh]

Hardly. There was enough in that open-ended universe to make all kinds of content, from novels to movies to comic books to cartoons.

We'd have had even more content on Tatooine than we already do. New Star Wars is already so reliant on the OT era and nostalgia. It'd be even worse if we never moved out of that bubble at all. As far as I'm concerned Disney Star Wars has been more good than bad overall. Lucas didn't have a 100% trackrecord either.

The magic dies for me when Disney decides that the SW universe needs to reflect their ideas and values and resemble what they think our society is "supposed" to be.

Yellow lightsabers didn't make Star Wars woke.

As for the lightsaber colors, I'm hardly willing to "die on a hill" for it. Just pointing out the history. Disney chose to ignore that history. I think that's dumb, but whatever. People can buy their yellow $250 glowsticks and wave them around at a convention if that makes them happy.

Disney didn't ignore anything. It was already established in canon before they bought it.

Personally I preferred when the lightsaber colour reflected the personality and role of each Jedi, as was established in KOTOR. Now they don't really mean anything, aside from in TCW where only Jedi Temple Guards seem to have yellow exclusively.

 

[Mondragon]

George Lucas 1977-2005: Jedi failed cause they had a blind spot they believed absolute selfless love for all living beings, meant letting go of personal connection to any one, and with it the fear of losing them. It took Luke who never surrendered either, to bring about their return.
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Disney 2024 : No, Jedi failed because they listened to straight white males. (this message will be delivered with a subtlety of a firkin hammer)
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[Mandible]

I'm still bothered by the fact that (thanks to Episode One) we have this conception that Jedi have a "uniform" with the robes and the cloak and the hood.

Obi-Wan wasn't wearing a uniform. He was dressed as a simple farmer on a desert planet cause he was trying to blend in. He was wearing Uncle Owen's uniform, not the Jedi Order's.

But now of course ALL Jedi wear desert nomad robes ALL the time.

And despite George decreeing that lightsabers are only green or blue, red for sith, and one exception of purple, now we're seeing all the colors of the rainbow again, just like we did during the Episode One merchandising days. (Before George's decree.)

I hate that cause it breaks canon....AGAIN.....but it's Disney, so of course they're gonna wanna maximize their merchandising opportunities. Apparently role-play lightsabers do huge numbers. So they added yellow and white and orange and whatever else.

Why is this not talked about more?! Does my ******* head in.

And, when you look at any of the old "making of videos" of ROTJ, you see Lucas telling Hamill (during a costume fitting), that the costume he's wearing (the back outfit and robe) is a traditional outfit of the Jedi.

 

[jye4ever]

Yikes!

From the showrunner dude:

“Barely 30 minutes”

Pathetic

 

[loki2371]

Just goes to show you all these people that make these D+ shows are clueless and not experienced enough in TV. Shows like this that need to be story driven should be like 50 - 60 min. Instead of more episodes and shorter run times, make them longer runtimes and less episodes. That's why I choose to wait and binge these shows nowadays, if I even watch them at all. I'd rather watch a couple hours in a row, like a movie, instead of 1 30 minute episode week to week. Or wait altogether till the series is complete and watch them back to back.

But all they care about is making content. For the tik tok & YT shorts generation. Their attention span barely makes it to the 30 min runtime..

I'm beginning to hate watching Movies & TV shows with my kids. They have to pick up their phones like every 10 minutes, then I spend 5 minutes yelling at them...

 

[ironwez20]

Damn. I’m seeing a lot of hate for this show. Star Wars is definitely dead. And they want to release a freaking rey movie? lol

 

[Mandible]

Damn. I’m seeing a lot of hate for this show. Star Wars is definitely dead. And they want to release a freaking rey movie? lol

Sadly, I just wish SW would **** off and die for a while... I'm so sick of seeing the name and logo that I virtually want to puke every time I do. Like the MCU, it's lost it magic through over saturation and abysmal content.

Hopefully, time will heal the wounds

 

[Rui Ram]

Good shows and films will heal all wounds.

Unfortunately there doesn’t look like many of those are on the horizon…

 

[davejames]

Yikes!

From the showrunner dude:

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“Barely 30 minutes”

Sounds like she already hates her own creation.

Pathetic

Yeah it doesn't exactly make this sound like an epic SW story they're telling, but more just a series of quick throwaway adventures. Which is fine for something like Mandalorian, but not for what this was promised to be.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Yeah it doesn't exactly make this sound like an epic SW story they're telling, but more just a series of quick throwaway adventures. Which is fine for something like Mandalorian, but not for what this was promised to be.

I'm guessing it has some to do with being more mindful of the over bloated budgets they give their shows/films, which as of late has not seen a healthy return on that investment.

I'm sure they're aware this show, the next show and the next few films they release are basically going to flop. They aren't that stupid. They realize the majority of the public aren't into their stuff.

But the people that run things at Disney aren't too concerned with putting out stuff that will flop and cost the company money. The messeage is what's important. And doubling down on putting it out there probably makes them feel like they're fighting the good fight.

I'm not watching this or any other content that gets created by Disney. Because I am not the audience they're making this crap for. So there's no point. Disney shareholders must love it. There seems to be very little push back from them.

 

[ObiGlennKenobi]

I'm guessing it has some to do with being more mindful of the over bloated budgets they give their shows/films, which as of late has not seen a healthy return on that investment.

I'm sure they're aware this show, the next show and the next few films they release are basically going to flop. They aren't that stupid. They realize the majority of the public aren't into their stuff.

But the people that run things at Disney aren't too concerned with putting out stuff that will flop and cost the company money. The messeage is what's important. And doubling down on putting it out there probably makes them feel like they're fighting the good fight.

I'm not watching this or any other content that gets created by Disney. Because I am not the audience they're making this crap for. So there's no point. Disney shareholders must love it. There seems to be very little push back from them.

Agreed.
Surprised the shareholders haven't started selling off.

I would have done so just after Endgame.

 

[BoosterGold06]

Agreed.
Surprised the shareholders haven't started selling off.

I would have done so just after Endgame.

Despite all of their movie bombs this last year, their theme parks are still making a ton of money.

 

[ironwez20]

Despite all of their movie bombs this last year, their theme parks are still making a ton of money.

Yea the spring break made so much money

 

[Mondragon]

How you know this is crap.

"I kind of wondered, but what happened to lead up to [ The Phantom Menace ]? That’s kind of where my ‘Star Wars’ fan brain went was like, ‘How did we get here?’ And why are the Jedi like this? When they are in power, why are they acting this way"
- Leslye Headland

Except the Jedi weren't in power (their whole role was to avoid it)
So now they've written a show to "explain" and reinforce their own misconception.

 

[The Buffinator]

How you know this is crap.

Except the Jedi weren't in power (their whole role was to avoid it)
So now they've written a show to "explain" and reinforce their own misconception.

Well maybe not in power per se but they were the right hand of those (the Chancellor, the Senate) who were in power. You don't slide into leadership roles in a military without having a significant/privileged place in society. They even had the prerequisite ivory towers.

 

[Mondragon]

Well maybe not in power per se but ...

And that's the key difference you are ignoring, to ignore that is to completely misconstrue their role.

Though I recognize Lucas visually conflated those lines putting them in a frikin CG office building, should have left them as wanderers, who only convene in a more natural place.
Things like puting the Jedi in an office, bothered me more than firkin JarJar everyone complained about.

 

[The Buffinator]

Yikes!

From the showrunner dude:

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“Barely 30 minutes”

Pathetic

Yeah it doesn't exactly make this sound like an epic SW story they're telling, but more just a series of quick throwaway adventures. Which is fine for something like Mandalorian, but not for what this was promised to be.

Barely 30 minutes? I guess if you grew up watching TCW cartoons and are using that as your template but TCW was made primarily for children - and even it had episodes that exceeded 30 minutes.

 

[The Buffinator]

And that's the key difference you are ignoring, to ignore that is to completely misconstrue their role.

Though I recognize Lucas visually conflated those lines putting them in a frikin CG office building, should have left them as wanderers, who only convene in a more natural place.
Things like puting the Jedi in an office, bothered me more than firkin JarJar everyone complained about.

But because Lucas conflated those lines in the PT it's now canon that the Jedi were players (or maybe pawns is a better word) within the corridors of power. Regardless, I don't think we should throw the show runner under the bus just yet based on her "in power" phrasing as it may just be a matter of semantics.