Star Wars: The Acolyte

[Fujita]

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[pixletwin]

May I add that politics includes “culture wars” discussions?

 

[Mandible]

The official numbers dropped and it's down 25% viewership than Ahsoka for the same period of days, so not off to a great start.

If the next episode is as divisive as has been suggested, those numbers may get a lot worse.

Personally I've got no skin in it anymore as the first episode didn't grab me enough to keep going, but it will be interesting to observe if there will be The Last Jedi conversations, or is there too many people that have just dialed-out and don't care anymore either way?

This time tomorrow we'll know.

 

[pixletwin]

Again, stay on topic. Consider this THE warning.

 

[Fujita]

If you have any questions as to what is political please feel free to send me a pm.

 

[Sassafras]

The official numbers dropped and it's down 25% viewership than Ahsoka for the same period of days, so not off to a great start.

If the next episode is as divisive as has been suggested, those numbers may get a lot worse.

Personally I've got no skin in it anymore as the first episode didn't grab me enough to keep going, but it will be interesting to observe if there will be The Last Jedi conversations, or is there too many people that have just dialed-out and don't care anymore either way?

This time tomorrow we'll know.

(I saw TLJ twice in theaters and don't regret it, because of the visuals, and also, Mark Hamill gave a stellar performance (whether folks liked the arc or not). Also, the first time I saw it was an opening fan event, folks in costumes and swag, which was cool. )

......thanks to the more careful You-Tubers extracting examples to illustrate the inconsistencies/performances etc. I've pretty well seen the whole thing so far, even tho I already checked out.

Unfortunately unlike Solo which had its flaws, so far I'm not thinking "I shouldn't have listened to the negativity, there is some cool stuff here even if I have to squint in some scenes". E.g. Solo IMO has an interesting villain and/or villainess, charisma, visuals. It's entertaining in parts.

The only positive I have for this series so far, is occasionally some nice scenery.

The dislikes would include:

Spoiler:

1) Blatant re-use of other productions, including Ahsoka and Mandalorian, the whole arm thing escape in Mando....
2) Wow, I was looking forward to Carrie Anne Moss' character. Would she be the next Qui-Gon? Well, she's dead, in a way a "Jedi Master" wouldn't go out against a young opponent, no matter how well trained. (I dread that she'll hop back as a Force ghost, tho, probably, and the resulting glow in the dark Funko POP. Plz stahp)
3) Our assassin isn't old enough to take seriously, we are not talking Darth Maul here, or Asaj Ventress.
4) Too much dumb stuff, including hauling a prisoner/not-prisoner around with you. The specter of a Mary Sue wafting across the production...
5) Little to no charisma from the majority of the cast. Most are relentlessly grim; but it's all WEAK, somehow. Very Filoni in parts. Overreaching like everyone can be a Judi Dench or Patrick Stewart. But the cast who are supposed to lighten things up don't manage either. (Wow, I remember way back to my first impression of Luke Skywalker - he seemed so absolutely REAL, like someone you knew.) Heck, even the Yoda puppet has charisma!

6) There's hints/rumors that the lead is the same person; IMO that isn't any more clever than having twins and co-opting the Anakin arc zzzzzzzzzzz.
7) Some costumes look cheap or unfinished; like the green one's robe looked like it was made of material you use to wrap machine parts. The guy with the Kilmonger hair looks like he threw a bedsheet on, like a scarf backwards. The kind of thing you'd trip on, in a sudden fight AGAINST AN OPPONENT WITH KNOWN FORCE SKILLS WHO MURDERED A JEDI. Also the cat Padawan looks awful.

Where was the money spent in this production? Why is the lead wearing chain mail?

8) Don't name a character after the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
9) Everyone seems to have PTSD, which IMO smacks of overly emotional fan fiction as written by pre-teens; which seems who this series is geared to. The martial arts makes me think of Asian films, unlike in Mando when it came across as another planet's culture. Probably 'coz it was a look on a specific planet vs. everyone Kung-fu fighting....
10) Positive: I liked the droid chairs

E.g., IMO it's a production that's just "there" so I'll agree with some YT critics on that score. 3/10. Unless it picks up. But the obvious inclusion of the Dathomir mysterious witches for me, since it's CW rehash, isn't doing it for me out of the gate. (IMO that was another unneeded conceit of Filoni's in CW, like the unkillable Ahsoka. )

I think I get what the showrunner was trying for; but IMO it was beyond the skill set of the writers/directors. In turn, it's hard to draw stellar performances out of the actors. E.g., it doesn't matter what they do, coz at least so far it's all so bland, IMO. Andor's B2 is way more moving.

 

[BoosterGold06]

I wish they would release more numbers. I know they declared Obi-Wan the most watched Disney+ premiere ever. I have a feeling it’s been all diminishing returns since then. I’m honestly surprised they gave the 5-day viewership numbers for this and let it be known it fell short of Ahsoka. I can’t imagine continuing to spend $180 million on shows that only about 5% of your subscribers are watching.

 

[Asta]

Disney spinning failure as success with the viewing numbers:

 

[Asta]

In other news...

On Rotten Tomatoes the audience score has settled back to its natural level of 26%:

On IMDB it dropped below 4.4 during this thread's holiday:

 

[Khev]

Sadly yet another Hollywood cinematographer was shot and killed on set. This time it wasn't the result of an errant gunshot but rather the button that was barely holding together this Jedi's robe finally burst and flew across the set, killing her instantly.

 

[Wor-Gar]

That's called... the Disney 'spin'

Yes, the button too.

 

[BoosterGold06]

There is no business sense to what they’re doing with the IP.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-older-more-male-170000506.html

 

[Asta]

Drunk3PO's latest video starts off talking about the plot point of episode 3, "...the big one, the one where everything is changed, the story of Anakin, the story of Luke, the story of Rey, the story of the Force...it's pretty much what everyone is saying that...

Spoiler:

two women Jedi, they do something together and they create Force babies

...now, is that what happened to Anakin? Is that what's going on with the Skywalkers? Is that what happened with Rey now that everything is finally told about how these special beings are created?"


Well, George did have Shmi Skywalker do the Virgin Mary routine.

 

[Khev]

Well, George did have Shmi Skywalker do the Virgin Mary routine.

Qui-gon: "Who is the father?"

Shmi: "There was no father. There was...another mother." Dun dun DUNNNNN!

 

[Wor-Gar]

the two women...

Life creates Art.

 

[davejames]

Tonight's the big night!!

 

[jaztermareal]

I am very curious to see how the score progresses. will it rise by season end? I think it may remain steady but who knows

 

[Asta]

Qui-gon: "Who is the father?"

Shmi: "There was no father. There was...another mother." Dun dun DUNNNNN!

Alan Ng of Film Threat, who got to see the first four episodes early, described episode 3 showing the Force to be a "matriarchy".

He didn't spell it out like Drunk3PO, but it explains why it's being received as a seismic shift in the history of Star Wars. It's what Kennedy wanted all along. First it was just a T-shirt, but now it's going to be canon.

 

[Asta]

Tonight's the big night!!

 

[Khev]

Alan Ng of Film Threat, who got to see the first four episodes early, described episode 3 showing the Force to be a "matriarchy".

He didn't spell it out like Drunk3PO, but it explains why it's being received as a seismic shift in the history of Star Wars. It's what Kennedy wanted all along. First it was just a T-shirt, but now it's going to be canon.

Thankfully I'm at the same place as that Anchorman gif where he says he isn't even mad. Like many I just don't care what they do any more. KK has obviously reimagined Star Wars in her own image and the new "canon" just isn't something I recognize or even acknowledge.