Star Wars: The Acolyte

[Asta]

I’ve been contemplating selling off my 1/6 Luke’s and Vader’s and their respective 1:1 Lightsabers for the eventual HT Mae and Osha figures plus their moms of course..

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[Khev]

Can you all believe that this is NOT the worst that Star Wars ever got?

 

[Asta]

The ratings would be worse, but lucky for Disney some numpties have been accidentally rating the movie, Acolytes instead.

 

[Khev]

The ratings would be worse, but lucky for Disney some numpties have been accidentally rating the movie, Acolytes instead.

Which is a shame because that other movie (regardless of what it's about) probably has better continuity with the OT, lol.

 

[jaztermareal]

The ratings would be worse, but lucky for Disney some numpties have been accidentally rating the movie, Acolytes instead.

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honestly that 2008 film sounds interesting, will add to watch list

 

[Asta]

honestly that 2008 film sounds interesting, will add to watch list

I downloaded it the other day after it turned up while searching The Acolyte. Sounded a lot more interesting than the 'real thing'.

 

[Sassafras]

Exactly as he said... apathy.

Maybe there could be a new word added to the dictionary:
Dapathy; the touch of death of all things Disney

Am looking forward to Andor S2 too much to feel apathy.
And if nothing else, Skeleton Crew has Jude Law.

And I don't think - at least at the moment - that SW is ruined, especially Anakin. 'Coz I always took it, that the Force - and it's vaguely alluded to in the ST - is something like - well, akin to what people think of as God. It's beyond real comprehension. But the Force took it upon ITSELF to insure the universe would remain balanced. Shmi wasn't having weekly sing songs and making spice brownies.

IMO Yoda alludes to this "mysteriousness" with "a prophecy that misread, could have been". It's all rather Biblical, in that how can you understand the mind of God. Qui-Gon, as wise as he is, does misread. (George Lucas genius in spite of the whole midi-chlorian thing.)

The difference being that this &^%$# series openly has Witch Mom tinkering, no different than what's hinted at through the PT and ST - it's not natural. Big test tubes of failed Snokes, for one thing. If Plagueis was messing about, it wasn't natural either. Anakin is the only one.

Tho what further script abominations will appear, who knows . But for now, for me, this show is just another Willow 2. A horrible anomaly from a company which is sadly watching their stock price fall, and is probably thinking REALLY HARD about that Rey movie. I'm just waiting to see if HT has the *&^%$ to actually make figures from this series.
HASBRO did, and they are probably already writing it off as a business loss.

 

[jaztermareal]

I only go by what the movies said (no obscure comics etc) and the movies implied that Anakin was the first immaculate conception, hence why Qui Gon considers him the prophesied chosen one. Palpatines speech about Plaguis discovering how to create life implied it was something never seen before and hints that Anakin was made by either Plaguis or Palpatine. Everything in this show undermines all of that, at least so far. We may yet discover that Mae/Osha are clones or something.

 

[Sassafras]

So what do you think the odds are of the finale NOT having the "evil" twin die sadly and sympathetically leading to the good twin making an 8-minute lecture to the Jedi telling them to "do better?"

Even that's boring 'coz Kylo - and this actress is no Adam Driver who could make a conflicted character interesting - Kylo already did the redemption arc. Then there was Ahsoka kinda chiding the Jedi when she shows up again.

The only interesting thing they could do is have both twins turn evil and sprout horns or something, like Savage Opress, and have Sol take them out (but he feels bad about it).

It'll never happen with this showrunner.

 

[Khev]

Even that's boring 'coz Kylo - and this actress is no Adam Driver who could make a conflicted character interesting - Kylo already did the redemption arc.

And Reva. And Flag Smasher, etc.

 

[Wor-Gar]

One thing to note: a Disney Star Wars show hasn't been this unifying in a very long time.

So there's that...

 

[jye4ever]

Can you all believe that this is NOT the worst that Star Wars ever got?

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Jesus H Christ

 

[jaztermareal]

And Reva. And Flag Smasher, etc.

and Enfys Nest sorta

 

[Mondragon]

I’ve been contemplating selling off my 1/6 Luke’s and Vader’s and their respective 1:1 Lightsabers for the eventual HT Mae and Osha figures plus their moms of course..

 

[Wor-Gar]

Can you all believe that this is NOT the worst that Star Wars ever got?

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I can't get over this photo. It's as bad as Bea Arthur.

 

[Khev]

I can't get over this photo. It's as bad as Bea Arthur.

But at least it wasn't worse than Bea Arthur. That honor goes to:

 

[Sassafras]

I only go by what the movies said (no obscure comics etc) and the movies implied that Anakin was the first immaculate conception, hence why Qui Gon considers him the prophesied chosen one. Palpatines speech about Plaguis discovering how to create life implied it was something never seen before and hints that Anakin was made by either Plaguis or Palpatine. Everything in this show undermines all of that, at least so far. We may yet discover that Mae/Osha are clones or something.

I think differently, in that if Plagueis USED the Force to INFLUENCE the midi-chlorians, then it's not a natural/spontaneous event. That's an old motif, as well, that trying to cheat death is unnatural and in the end, results in something bad (Pet Sematary, zombies, vampires, etc.).

Which isn't that far off from Filoni's witches and their green fog. I never took it that Anakin was some sort of end result of Plagueis; but more of Lucas drawing on religious/mythological motifs e.g. the arc of the "sacred child", born or raised by lowly parents (hidden at first), and eventually comes into their own - but may (possibly) die at a young age after many accomplishments (often as a result of a hubris that sets in). The quest to kill a father, who often has been warned that the birth of a child will end the father, results in the grown child taking revenge - or, taking revenge on the father's representatives/usurpers (e.g. like the myth of Perseus).

Of course the end result in SW is Luke's triumph over Palpatine and rescue of his father (like, Aragorn escapes the failings of his ancestor Isildur etc.)

IMO Leslie COULD HAVE outrageously completely co-opted the idea of a truly "virgin birth" - but a quick look at her work - it's all slanted to modern/social stress issues. Which to me is a reason to not hire her for something like SW that is either huge and mythic; or communities rebelling against a great enemy (Andor, Mandalorian, Rebels). There's no time for feeling sorry for yourself.

Or, Lucas tapped into universal archetypes that appeal to all; while Acolyte is set in a golden era where this community lives comfortably eating spice candy, doing their hair, and looking at the view and making vague complaints about everyone picking on them, which makes the audience wonder what they did, exactly. It's more like folks who want to live in an upscale nudist colony who think it's unfair nobody wants to sit next to them on a plane.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

This show is booty juice

 

[SwedishHeat]

And I don't think - at least at the moment - that SW is ruined,

I get that you said you don't think Star Wars is ruined, but since it's become a common meme in the past week or so ...

Star Wars has been "ruined" for the last 30 years. Lucas "ruined" Star Wars with the Special Editions, then he "hated the fans" when he refused to release the Theatrical Versions, while at the same time, advocating for 'preserving cinema history'.

Then he "ruined" Star Wars again with the PT, which has only survived on the strength of the younger generation meme-ing it to death, and keeping it relevant.

The irony is Star Wars is not ruined, Star Wars is surviving despite all the damage that's been done. If it can survive nearly four decades of things like the Holiday Special, Jedi Rocks, "maclunkey", Masters of Teras Kasi, midichlorians, and Jar Jar Binks, it can survive The Acolyte.

 

[Mandible]

I guess it doesn't really matter to Disney, but I'm never going to see Acolyte. Furiosa I will. It will also probably become something I view rather regularly; like FR. I'm not their target demographic, so they don't care.
Hell, I don't watch the OT SW due to the Lucas' added crap.

See if you can find the 4K series - 4K77, etc - completely unaltered versions.
or
My go-to ones now are the Revisited versions. What they did with the Hoth battle is mind blowing (and getting rid of all the idiotic Lucas changes - and the new color-grade look superb).