Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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While not the disaster that were the PT, still disappointing.


I have been punched in the balls in 99 and now in 2015.


When CF's acting is one of the few positives you know we're in trouble.


First the negatives:


The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what.
Han and Chewie's introduction wasted!
Han bumbling about as a smuggler.
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol
Leia's force powers never mentioned.
Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch.
Han using chewies blaster over and over.
Kylo Ren's tantrums.
No memorable side characters.
The First Order was an embarrassment.
Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy.
First Order destruction of planets meant nothing.
Captain Phasma, who?
Lupita was wasted!
Max Von wasted
Snoke's lame ass design.
Cgi monster on the loose.
Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes.
Clone explanation made no sense.
Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad.
Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension!
Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud.
Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic!
New music was boring as all hell.


The very few positives were not enough to save this movie:

Rey
BB8 very well used and adorable, he is NOT a JarJar!
Falcon's escape from Jakku.
C3PO one interaction with Han/Leia.
Lightsaber battle in the snow, lighting just as good as Darth Maul battle.
Leia, wut!
Special effects (other than Snooki), like duh.
Yes, seeing Luke still gave me goosebumps.
3D


On the fence about Finn/Poe.


The damn trailers were epic, what happened!

DiFabio was ****ing right, them happy together at the end of ROTJ was THE END!

How the mighty have fallen... :lol
 
While not the disaster that were the PT, still disappointing.


I have been punched in the balls in 99 and now in 2015.


When CF's acting is one of the few positives you know we're in trouble.


First the negatives:


The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what.
Han and Chewie's introduction wasted!
Han bumbling about as a smuggler.
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol
Leia's force powers never mentioned.
Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch.
Han using chewies blaster over and over.
Kylo Ren's tantrums.
No memorable side characters.
The First Order was an embarrassment.
Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy.
First Order destruction of planets meant nothing.
Captain Phasma, who?
Lupita was wasted!
Max Von wasted
Snoke's lame ass design.
Cgi monster on the loose.
Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes.
Clone explanation made no sense.
Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad.
Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension!
Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud.
Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic!
New music was boring as all hell.


The very few positives were not enough to save this movie:

Rey
BB8 very well used and adorable, he is NOT a JarJar!
Falcon's escape from Jakku.
C3PO one interaction with Han/Leia.
Lightsaber battle in the snow, lighting just as good as Darth Maul battle.
Leia, wut!
Special effects (other than Snooki), like duh.
Yes, seeing Luke still gave me goosebumps.
3D


On the fence about Finn/Poe.


The damn trailers were epic, what happened!

DiFabio was ****ing right, them happy together at the end of ROTJ was THE END!

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It's refreshing to see (and I'm actually relieved) that there are still some of us that haven't drunk the kool-aid, yet.
 
I haven't read through the thread, based on the typical whining from the past two pages, I won't bother. Everyone has spent 30 or however many years now coming up with the perfect sequel so there was no way to truly please most but this wasn't even comparable to the trash that are the prequels. I had fun, the new characters were likable and I want to see where the story goes. It felt like Star Wars every step of the way. 8/10 for me. I came out of episode one and literally returned the Darth Maul figure I'd bought in the lobby before the movie started. I came out of this feeling like I finally got what I'd been waiting for since that moment and long before it.
 
...Hopefully this doesn't start to trend down the PT path...

Not a trick question or anything like that, but I'm simply curious; do you like or dislike the PT?

Also, you should tell that to the movie critics. Most movie critics behave the way you've described and alter ratings (Rotten Tomatoes, etc.) that way...
 
I'm having a t-shirt made up that will say:

Star Wars
Letting Fans Down
Since 1983
4 1/2 movies in a row

Sorry to hear you were let down bro. A lot of the things you didn't like i did. I was almost totally satisfied.

/peace
 
Not a trick question or anything like that, but I'm simply curious; do you like or dislike the PT?

Also, you should tell that to the movie critics. Most movie critics behave the way you've described and alter ratings (Rotten Tomatoes, etc.) that way...

I am the biggest PT defender on this site :lol I love those movies along with the other 4 :lol
 
While not the disaster that were the PT, still disappointing.


I have been punched in the balls in 99 and now in 2015.


When CF's acting is one of the few positives you know we're in trouble.


First the negatives:


The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what.
Han and Chewie's introduction wasted!
Han bumbling about as a smuggler.
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol
Leia's force powers never mentioned.
Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch.
Han using chewies blaster over and over.
Kylo Ren's tantrums.
No memorable side characters.
The First Order was an embarrassment.
Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy.
First Order destruction of planets meant nothing.
Captain Phasma, who?
Lupita was wasted!
Max Von wasted
Snoke's lame ass design.
Cgi monster on the loose.
Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes.
Clone explanation made no sense.
Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad.
Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension!
Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud.
Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic!
New music was boring as all hell.


The very few positives were not enough to save this movie:

Rey
BB8 very well used and adorable, he is NOT a JarJar!
Falcon's escape from Jakku.
C3PO one interaction with Han/Leia.
Lightsaber battle in the snow just as good as Darth Maul battle.
Leia, wut!
Special effects (other than Snooki), like duh.
Yes, seeing Luke still gave me goosebumps.
3D


On the fence about Finn/Poe.


The damn trailers were epic, what happened!

DiFabio was ****ing right, them happy together at the end of ROTJ was THE END!

Wow. No offense man, people like you will never be happy with any Star Wars movie unless it is the OT. It seems to me you didn't get what you wanted so you now are complaining about it. Didn't go the way you expected it so you hate it. Here are my thought to your negatives.

The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what. - This was easy enough to understand. Leia even said there were pretty good years. After Kylo turned to the darkside they had to deal with the loss of there son in there each way. Many divorces happen with the death of a child. It is VERY EASY to understand and should not be faulted.

Han and Chewie's introduction wasted! - No, not at all. It was the biggest pop in the theater each time I have saw it. It was perfect.

Han bumbling about as a smuggler - Already explained this. After the fall of his son, he went back to the only thing he was ever good at (his words by the way).
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol - Not at all. You are bashing this movie for the reason I assume you bash the PT. PT explained too much and now this explains too little. I thought it was perfect and made sense. It keeps the mystery of who his son was and how he fell.

Leia's force powers never mentioned. - Wrong. It is heavily implied once again that she felt something wrong with Han and knew, thus showing her force powers. Similar to the Cloud City scene and finding Luke.

Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch. - That would have been cool, but is suppose to lead into the newer generation. So Rey fixing the Falcon her way was fitting.

Han using chewies blaster over and over. - I agree with this. It is a fair point.

Kylo Ren's tantrums. - Nothing wrong about them. It shows his anger, his delusions, his pain and his confliction.

No memorable side characters. - Hux, Snoke, Poe...

The First Order was an embarrassment. - So building a super weapon in the side of the planet and wiping out five planets and slaughtering citizens is an embarrassment?

Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy. - Not really. It was more of a vintage speech, similar to Adolf Hitler speaking points. It worked very well.

First Order destruction of planets meant nothing. - Fair point. Buildup of the new republic should have been shown/told. If you read the visual dictionary it help explains it more and really has an affect thinking back. But, one should not have to read outside material to better emotional connect to a film. I agree.

Captain Phasma, who? - Short screen time. Was never advertised as the main character though. One cool shot and she was perceived as a big bad. It is the fans own fault. They assumed, didn't get it, and hate her now.

Lupita was wasted! - Excellent voice actor. Played the wise mentor role perfectly.

Max Von wasted - had a very important scene. He is a follower of the "Church of the Force"

Snoke's lame ass design. - Personal opinion. I thought it was awesome.

Cgi monster on the loose. - Better than the flying into a giant space worm :lol

Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes. - ummm.... okay.

Clone explanation made no sense. - What clone explanation??? Stormtroopers are all human who were taken from birth and raised to be soldiers. As were the ancient Spartans. Ties back to history is why I love this movie. Finn explained this all. Very easy to follow.

Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad. - Just like in the OT. It was basically the same. Your complaints can go right back to the OT. I find them invalid.

Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension! - Personal opinion

Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud. - Nothing wrong with it.

Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic! - I thought it was good.

New music was boring as all hell. - Personal opinion


Sorry you didn't like it. You seemed pretty excited about it.
 
While not the disaster that were the PT, still disappointing.


I have been punched in the balls in 99 and now in 2015.


When CF's acting is one of the few positives you know we're in trouble.


First the negatives:


The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what.
Han and Chewie's introduction wasted!
Han bumbling about as a smuggler.
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol
Leia's force powers never mentioned.
Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch.
Han using chewies blaster over and over.
Kylo Ren's tantrums.
No memorable side characters.
The First Order was an embarrassment.
Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy.
First Order destruction of planets meant nothing.
Captain Phasma, who?
Lupita was wasted!
Max Von wasted
Snoke's lame ass design.
Cgi monster on the loose.
Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes.
Clone explanation made no sense.
Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad.
Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension!
Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud.
Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic!
New music was boring as all hell.


The very few positives were not enough to save this movie:

Rey
BB8 very well used and adorable, he is NOT a JarJar!
Falcon's escape from Jakku.
C3PO one interaction with Han/Leia.
Lightsaber battle in the snow just as good as Darth Maul battle.
Leia, wut!
Special effects (other than Snooki), like duh.
Yes, seeing Luke still gave me goosebumps.
3D


On the fence about Finn/Poe.


The damn trailers were epic, what happened!

DiFabio was ****ing right, them happy together at the end of ROTJ was THE END!

Now what other movies do you LIKE? Godzilla? :lolCmon man I thought you are abit harsh but to each his own...
Overall it was a success and a good SW film- I have a few nitpicks but it delivered!

The REAL problem was it was too DERIVITIVE of ANH- just TOO much screams reboot..all to get the fans happy again or nowhere else(plotwise) to go?
 
Now comes the part where we analyze each other's opinions with long essays about why the other person is wrong.
 
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