Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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When anyone makes that argument it just shows there is no pleasing them. PT was to different so they hate it. ST was to similar so they hate it.

Clearly you didn't read what I said. The prequels didn't fail because it was different or because the idea for those films was bad, it was the execution that failed. The bad writing, the unnecessary scenes, the bad acting, the over use of CGI....that's why I HATE those films, not because the film tells the story of Anakin becoming Vader.
 
I don't understand the "it is a rehash of ANH" thing. It is a combination of all three OT films. This movie has key elements from each in its own unique way. It is very clear to see I think.

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Han didn't fully trust them... he thought it would be safer in his care. How was he suppose to know fellow smugglers would know?

Han thought the Cantina was a safe spot. They needed to bring BB-8 to give to Maz for her to give to Leia.

Nothing dumb about it. It was dumb for Luke and Ben to parade around Mos Eisley with R2-D2 and C-3PO to then. Why didn't they just leave them at Luke's smoldering home and have Han fly there to pick them up? You can't argue this either. Because according to you, that must be dumb, right?

Every complaint about this movie I can counter about something from the OT. It is going to be great. People will be bashing this movie along with there beloved OT! :lol

The original films aren't perfect either, so repeating old mistakes doesn't mean it makes more sense now :lol No, Rey and Finn know everyone is looking for that thing. They should have hidden that thing with them. Han thought the cantina was a safe place? Since when? You can't trust anyone in the Galaxy...he knows that better than anyone :lol
 
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Because it's all stuff that we've seen already. It's not original. I think the prequels are bad, but Lucas at least tried to do something different, by telling a story about Obie Wan and a young Anakin...on paper, that's a much better story than TFA, but he ruined it by not directing the actors well, unnecessary political elements, over use of CGI, and bad writing. This new film is basically a fan film made by a fan for fans. Lucas ***** up the prequels, but he wasn't trying to repeat what he already did. Having said that, I liked the new film and it's just a start.

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Clearly you didn't read what I said. The prequels didn't fail because it was different or because the idea for those films was bad, it was the execution that failed. The bad writing, the unnecessary scenes, the bad acting, the over use of CGI....that's why I HATE those films, not because the film tells the story of Anakin becoming Vader.

I know. That is why I never used the word "you" in my reply. You explained yourself. It is just that I see a lot of replies of the PT being different, hence the hate.
 
Han didn't fully trust them... he thought it would be safer in his care. How was he suppose to know fellow smugglers would know?

Han thought the Cantina was a safe spot. They needed to bring BB-8 to give to Maz for her to give to Leia.

Nothing dumb about it. It was dumb for Luke and Ben to parade around Mos Eisley with R2-D2 and C-3PO to then. Why didn't they just leave them at Luke's smoldering home and have Han fly there to pick them up? You can't argue this either. Because according to you, it must be dumb, right?

Every complaint about this movie I can counter about something from the OT. It is going to be great. People will be bashing this movie along with there beloved OT! :lol
Big time OT fan here. But I still insist, TFA got everything right! The pacing of all the elements was incredibly well done too. Never a dull moment. This one ranks at the very top in my book, right next to '77.
 
PT were original as far as original can get in the SW universe- retreads of Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and 100 other types of films.
The acting, writing, direction ,overuse of CGI were just bottom of the barrel. Hard to explain how all that happened so often and consistantly!
 

That makes no sense whatsoever and who ever created that is a hater.

BB-8 and Rey don't come across Lars San Tekka.

First order doesn't burn Rey's town, she doesn't live there.

They don't escape Jakku with help from Han or Chewbacca.

Han is not Rey's mentor. Not at all.

Rey cried after seeing a man die. A lot of people would.

Similarities, but not a rehash. It encompasses elements from all three films.
 
Big time OT fan here. But I still insist, TFA got everything right! The pacing of all the elements was incredibly well done too. Never a dull moment. This one ranks at the very top in my book, right next to '77.

Yeah easy movie to love- let time pass and we can think more rationally about it. I like it better than PT(easy) and ROTJ!
 
That makes no sense whatsoever and who ever created that is a hater.

BB-8 and Rey don't come across Lars San Tekka.

First order doesn't burn Rey's town, she doesn't live there.

They don't escape Jakku with help from Han or Chewbacca.

Han is not Rey's mentor. Not at all.

Rey cried after seeing a man die. A lot of people would.

Similarities, but not a rehash. It encompasses elements from all three films.


Well that's what is circulating. I dunno, I didn't make the thing.

Still, what you typed is still only about 20% of that compilation. :lol I keep seeing people mention how this thing has aped the original so it's got to count for something. After all, this is the 4th "Death Star" we've seen on screen.
 
That's the way I see it. It was an enjoyable movie that deliberately 'resets' the franchise and lays the groundwork for - hopefully - more adventurous storytelling down the line. It's a palette cleanser movie.

This was my thought. The sequels could be much better because the nostalgia/fan service is (hopefully) done and Rey, Finn, and Ren all have potential.
 
Yeah easy movie to love- let time pass and we can think more rationally about it. I like it better than PT(easy) and ROTJ!
It's a 'safe' movie for sure. It isn't very original. But in my opinion, that doesn't make it a bad movie. Deviate too much and you end up with something like the PT.
 
Well that's what is circulating. I dunno, I didn't make the thing.

Still, what you typed is still only about 20% of that compilation. :lol I keep seeing people mention how this thing has aped the original so it's got to count for something. After all, this is the 4th "Death Star" we've seen on screen.

Fourth DS and also 4 times the size of the original. :lol
 
Well that's what is circulating. I dunno, I didn't make the thing.

Still, what you typed is still only about 20% of that compilation. :lol I keep seeing people mention how this thing has aped the original so it's got to count for something. After all, this is the 4th "Death Star" we've seen on screen.

Where do you get four "death stars" from?
 
Wow. No offense man, people like you will never be happy with any Star Wars movie unless it is the OT. It seems to me you didn't get what you wanted so you now are complaining about it. Didn't go the way you expected it so you hate it. Here are my thought to your negatives.

The way the previous 32 years was explained away, Han had a fight with Leia something or other.....wait what. - This was easy enough to understand. Leia even said there were pretty good years. After Kylo turned to the darkside they had to deal with the loss of there son in there each way. Many divorces happen with the death of a child. It is VERY EASY to understand and should not be faulted.

Han and Chewie's introduction wasted! - No, not at all. It was the biggest pop in the theater each time I have saw it. It was perfect.

Han bumbling about as a smuggler - Already explained this. After the fall of his son, he went back to the only thing he was ever good at (his words by the way).
Han's death by a son we never got to know meant nothing, and offensive lol - Not at all. You are bashing this movie for the reason I assume you bash the PT. PT explained too much and now this explains too little. I thought it was perfect and made sense. It keeps the mystery of who his son was and how he fell.

Leia's force powers never mentioned. - Wrong. It is heavily implied once again that she felt something wrong with Han and knew, thus showing her force powers. Similar to the Cloud City scene and finding Luke.

Missed opportunity with Han fixing the Falcon with a punch. - That would have been cool, but is suppose to lead into the newer generation. So Rey fixing the Falcon her way was fitting.

Han using chewies blaster over and over. - I agree with this. It is a fair point.

Kylo Ren's tantrums. - Nothing wrong about them. It shows his anger, his delusions, his pain and his confliction.

No memorable side characters. - Hux, Snoke, Poe...

The First Order was an embarrassment. - So building a super weapon in the side of the planet and wiping out five planets and slaughtering citizens is an embarrassment?

Hux's speech to his troops was cringe worthy. - Not really. It was more of a vintage speech, similar to Adolf Hitler speaking points. It worked very well.

First Order destruction of planets meant nothing. - Fair point. Buildup of the new republic should have been shown/told. If you read the visual dictionary it help explains it more and really has an affect thinking back. But, one should not have to read outside material to better emotional connect to a film. I agree.

Captain Phasma, who? - Short screen time. Was never advertised as the main character though. One cool shot and she was perceived as a big bad. It is the fans own fault. They assumed, didn't get it, and hate her now.

Lupita was wasted! - Excellent voice actor. Played the wise mentor role perfectly.

Max Von wasted - had a very important scene. He is a follower of the "Church of the Force"

Snoke's lame ass design. - Personal opinion. I thought it was awesome.

Cgi monster on the loose. - Better than the flying into a giant space worm :lol

Couldn't hear wtf the stormtroopers were saying during some scenes. - ummm.... okay.

Clone explanation made no sense. - What clone explanation??? Stormtroopers are all human who were taken from birth and raised to be soldiers. As were the ancient Spartans. Ties back to history is why I love this movie. Finn explained this all. Very easy to follow.

Ship to ship battles rang hollow because the First Order sucked so bad. - Just like in the OT. It was basically the same. Your complaints can go right back to the OT. I find them invalid.

Resistance command station was horribly forced and useless, zero tension! - Personal opinion

Harnessing the power of the sun lol Doc Ock would be proud. - Nothing wrong with it.

Destruction of First Order planet anti-climatic! - I thought it was good.

New music was boring as all hell. - Personal opinion


Sorry you didn't like it. You seemed pretty excited about it.

I was devastated lasnight to say the least. :lol

Now what other movies do you LIKE? Godzilla? :lolCmon man I thought you are abit harsh but to each his own...
Overall it was a success and a good SW film- I have a few nitpicks but it delivered!

The REAL problem was it was too DERIVITIVE of ANH- just TOO much screams reboot..all to get the fans happy again or nowhere else(plotwise) to go?

My wife does not get the whole Godzilla thing either. :lol

Who would have thought, I'd end up liking this film more than you :lol

I disagree about Kylo Ren's final fight.
They made him look weak. I thought the tantrums were hilarious, like he was a child, and the fact that everyone else seemed to be used to it made it even more hilarious :lol

The stupidest thing is how everyone kept taking BB8 with them when they know everyone is looking for that damn thing. It made no sense. :lol

Yeah, i'm really torn on Uncle Kylo Ben
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Weird villain.
 
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