Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[jye4ever]

I see your son got his braces off!

When the dentist told me how much they were going to cost I was like

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I thought you'd be more like...

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[Khev]

I agree with DiFabio, everything is obviously set for a sequel and it ends with a clear cliffhanger.

ANH is pretty self contained.

Yeah, a movie that shows the villain escaping is definitely more contained than one where the escape is only implied.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Originally, Vader was to be exploded by Han's shot. Would have seemed a bit of a simple death with little attachment to the killer. Not sure what possessed a sequel (to save Vader for) when myth has it that no one liked George's little movie.

 

[Khev]

Originally, Vader was to be exploded by Han's shot.

And then after Vader blew up they were going to cut to Palpatine hearing the news of the destroyed Death Star and having a heart attack and dying. Would have been such a rushed way to end the saga.

 

[Khev]

When the dentist told me how much they were going to cost I was like

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The price of the braces made you ask why Newt wasn't in charge? That's weird.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[jye4ever]

Check out this bad ass 24x36 mofo:

 

[DiFabio]

Pretty cool Jye

inb4 someone points out EPIII style Vader and Chewie

Originally, Vader was to be exploded by Han's shot. Would have seemed a bit of a simple death with little attachment to the killer. Not sure what possessed a sequel (to save Vader for) when myth has it that no one liked George's little movie.

And originally Ben was going to live and be on Yavin too I think.

 

[jye4ever]

Yikes:

"I don’t know how Abrams believed he ****ed things up. Maybe the film didn’t move fast or smoothly enough. Maybe it didn’t make sense. Maybe Lucasfilm wanted to save stuff for sequels. But Abrams (or Kathleen Kennedy) clearly did believe he ****ed things up, as hasty fixes were obviously deployed in production and post production to rebuild the story. The result is a movie cobbled together out of multiple versions of the script (see The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens for more) and even of the production footage. When you watch the movie, you can occasionally feel that something just isn’t right. I guarantee you that J.J. Abrams feels it too."

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Check out this bad ass 24x36 mofo:

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I gots me one coming

 

[Wor-Gar]

Check out this bad ass 24x36 mofo:

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I love how Luke goes from innocent farmboy to powerful and wise Jedi.

And I love how Leia goes from innocent virginal princess to total sexpot slave girl.


They just don't write like that anymore.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yikes:

"I don’t know how Abrams believed he ****ed things up. Maybe the film didn’t move fast or smoothly enough. Maybe it didn’t make sense. Maybe Lucasfilm wanted to save stuff for sequels. But Abrams (or Kathleen Kennedy) clearly did believe he ****ed things up, as hasty fixes were obviously deployed in production and post production to rebuild the story. The result is a movie cobbled together out of multiple versions of the script (see The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens for more) and even of the production footage. When you watch the movie, you can occasionally feel that something just isn’t right. I guarantee you that J.J. Abrams feels it too."

It didn't feel that way to me. It has problems...but it doesn't feel like a mess. F4...that was a mess.

 

[pixletwin]

I love how Luke goes from innocent farmboy to powerful and wise Jedi.

And I love how Leia goes from innocent virginal princess to total sexpot slave girl.


They just don't write like that anymore.

Do you love how Han goes from swinging scoundrel to bumbling bland bloke?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Do you love how Han goes from swinging scoundrel to bumbling bland bloke?

Yes. All the swingers -- Lando included -- become bland blokes. Watch Lando at the end party. No rhythm.

 

[pixletwin]

*clap*
*stomp*
*awkward clap*
*stomp stomp*

 

[DiFabio]

Yikes

I just read that article.

Batman Forever was the same way. A bunch of things were taken out and the movie was totally reworked by Warner Bros. to be more blockbuster and audience friendly. Nothing wrong with that. Look, it paid off for Disney. Yeah, Abrams and Kasdans original intent and story might have suffered, but artistic merit is always sacrificed for numbers on these kind of shows.

It's still undeniably a success, even if it isn't a perfect movie. All Force Awakens had to be was a competent movie, if some of those things were left in, it might have complicated the story and confused audiences.

 

[KitFisto]

Yes. All the swingers -- Lando included -- become bland blokes. Watch Lando at the end party. No rhythm.

I thought I was the only one who always laughed at how Lando was the original "left shark" in that scene

 

[Khev]

inb4 someone points out EPIII style Vader and Chewie

And isn't that Mythos Fett?

 

[Khev]

Yikes:

"I don’t know how Abrams believed he ****ed things up. Maybe the film didn’t move fast or smoothly enough. Maybe it didn’t make sense. Maybe Lucasfilm wanted to save stuff for sequels. But Abrams (or Kathleen Kennedy) clearly did believe he ****ed things up, as hasty fixes were obviously deployed in production and post production to rebuild the story. The result is a movie cobbled together out of multiple versions of the script (see The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens for more) and even of the production footage. When you watch the movie, you can occasionally feel that something just isn’t right. I guarantee you that J.J. Abrams feels it too."

The Skywalking book mentions how Empire was the same way. The finished footage was an incoherent mess (with a lot of totally crappy scenes, check the deleted scenes on the blu-ray for proof) and then through genius in the editing room they turned out a masterpiece.