Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Sachiel]

The A-Wing is in Episode VIII so we might see TIE Interceptors again.

 

[jye4ever]

The Force Awakens should have featured TIE Interceptors. They were an evolutionary upgrade that featured quad laser cannons at the four front tips of their wings (similar to an X-Wing) and were supposed to be much faster than standard TIE's.

Why would the First Order abandon them? I know that Abrams wanted every single silhouette in the movie to harken back to ANH but we could have had the best of both worlds. Special Forces TIE's with rear gunners supplementing waves of Interceptors. And Starkiller Base should have had more aerodynamic atmospheric TIE's like what we saw on Scarif.

From RO to ROTJ both the Rebels and the Empire have new and setting-specific ships across all four films. TFA stands out as having neither when in fact after 32 years you'd think it would have had the most dramatic upgrades of all.

32 years and all they did was recolor the Tie wings

The A-Wing is in Episode VIII so we might see TIE Interceptors again.

They really held back in TFA.

I wonder now if we'll see continue to see a trickle of additional vehicle combat or if the flood gates are going to open up.

They's holding back on a RO sized battle if not bigger we all know that.

Is there an army of newly trained Sith waiting in the wings as well?

 

[Prime Clone]

Until Midichlorians

Occurred to me recently, those who have a problem with midichlorians can look at them as an example of the Jedi being blinded to the bigger picture of the rise of the Sith by getting preoccupied with the details, overanalysing The Force etc.

It wasn't just his acting. It was the whole concept. Anakin should have been a man in his mid 30s at least. Someone with a battle warn, manly look to him. Not a kid in his early 20s who looked younger due to boyish features and slightly effeminate mannerisms. The long, billowy hair didn't help this impression.

Anakin's age and whininess is a common complaint about the PT, and while I was expecting someone older myself, it makes more sense that someone younger, less developed and more impulsive would fall to the dark side.

Plus Luke was whiny too.

 

[ShadowX81]

Anakin's age and whininess is a common complaint about the PT, and while I was expecting someone older myself, it makes more sense that someone younger, less developed and more impulsive would fall to the dark side.

Plus Luke was whiny too.

It only makes sense if you portray Anakin's fall as an extremely rushed product of gullibility and manipulation. It did not have to (and should not have) been done this way in the first place.

At the end of the day the movie's job is to provide a satisfying narrative experience while linking the prequels to the OT. And portraying Anakin as the complete antithesis of Darth Vader did neither. To this day I still cannot link the two characters in my mind.

It was just such a frustrating series to me because it could have been a great character study at such an iconic role. But it just dropped the ball on this in every conceivable way, including something as simple as portrayal.

Was there anyone at all that pictured Darth Vader this way prior to the prequels?

I hope more than anything that someday Disney goes back to remake the prequels, wiping them from canon and restoring the Star Wars universe to how it should have been.

 

[a-dev]

They are absolutely not the same character. Accordingly I disregard them and don't watch them anymore. Take that RIDDICK and Evilface!

 

[jye4ever]

My nephews prefer PT Anakin to OT Vader.

Had to be the vaccinations.

 

[DiFabio]

I prefer RO Vader to Prequel Anakin and OT Vader.

He got jokes, kills rebels and ain't fraid of nuffin.

 

[jye4ever]

Pecker joke

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Even with the RO ending, I still think Vader was at his best in ESB.

I also love his dialogue in his intro scene in RotJ.

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[GasparZizou]

I prefer RO Vader to Prequel Anakin and OT Vader.

He got jokes, kills rebels and ain't fraid of nuffin.

Ditto.

Even his older James Earl Jones voice is better.

 

[Khev]

Anakin's age and whininess is a common complaint about the PT, and while I was expecting someone older myself, it makes more sense that someone younger, less developed and more impulsive would fall to the dark side.

It would have also "made more sense" for Luke to have missed the exhaust port given the stress of the circumstances and the fact that he was still so untrained. But movies shouldn't bow to the most likely scenarios at the expense of what would be more enjoyable to watch. Anakin should have been older and been more commanding and respectable as a Jedi while still conveying an inner darkness just waiting for an opportunity to manifest. Many actors have proven capable of such personalities on screen over the years (probably because that's what they're really like in real life *coughRussellCrowecough* lol) but Hayden just did NOT. He was not commanding, had no charisma, and his flaws were at best annoying and at worst downright creepy. Very unbecoming for what was supposed to be Anakin/Vader in his prime.

Plus Luke was whiny too.

That doesn't validate Hayden's poor characterization because Luke was never required to segue seemlessly into DARTH VADER. Luke just had to be Luke. And even at his worst he was always likable.

They are absolutely not the same character. Accordingly I disregard them and don't watch them anymore.

Yep the movies that feature recasts of previous leading characters will never fit with the other ones. Ewan, Hayden, Temuera Morrison, Alden Ehrenreich, Donald Glover and any other main character who gets recast will always represent "Elseworlds" Star Wars and any movie they appear will as well. It doesn't mean that "Elseworlds" stories or versions are bad. I think we can all compartmentalize Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan as being worthy of respect and the Han Solo movie may indeed be decent in its own right but it will never fit seamlessly with RO/SW/ESB/ROTJ/TFA. I'm including TFA because even though I'll probably always consider the story to "end" at ROTJ at least TFA didn't recast any main characters. So in that regard it does indeed feel like I'm watching the same characters on screen as the previous films. Not so with the PT.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I prefer RO Vader to Prequel Anakin and OT Vader.

He got jokes, kills rebels and ain't fraid of nuffin.

one hunna agree lad

 

[Khev]

This is freaking hilarious. Thank God Lucas didn't think to do this.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Best is when that guy enters the War Room to report on Dantooine and Vader says "Hi"

He actually says Hi to everyone.

 

[DiFabio]

This is freaking hilarious. Thank God Lucas didn't think to do this.

Holy ****, that was amazing. The end especially with the editing in the trench run.

 

[Khev]

Best is when that guy enters the War Room to report on Dantooine and Vader says "Hi"

He actually says Hi to everyone.

The "Hi's" cracked me up but him jubilantly obliterating X-Wings to the tune of Van Halen's Panama before accidently destroying the DS himself might be the funniest SW related thing I've *ever* seen.

 

[Wor-Gar]

"Ooops. Let's get outta here".

 

[Khev]

"Ooops. Let's get outta here".

That was perfection.

 

[Prime Clone]

Yep the movies that feature recasts of previous leading characters will never fit with the other ones. Ewan, Hayden, Temuera Morrison, Alden Ehrenreich, Donald Glover and any other main character who gets recast will always represent "Elseworlds" Star Wars and any movie they appear will as well.

Maybe in your mind, but according to LFL they're canon.

That's a pretty rigid view. Does it apply to the Dark Knight Trilogy's Rachel? Does every James Bond exist in a different universe?

At least Doctor Who and Star Trek's Kelvin Timeline have built-in explanations for the different actors...

 

[jye4ever]

omg that was freaking hilarious, Tarkin's face, Vader destroying the DS holy crap best SW comedy video ever.