Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[a-dev]

I also was surprised that they took Starkiller Base out so quickly after it was introduced. Unlike the DS which was established in the opening crawl of ANH, Starkiller Base didn't appear until like an hour into the movie and didn't even last to the end. I assumed that with it being as massive as it was that it would be the SW equivalent of Mount Doom and that it would be a threat until the end of Episode 9. Guess not.

Maybe that's part of the reason Starkiller base, despite all its power, just didn't come across as very threatening. ''What's that, oh it's another superweapon. Huh, it can blow up five planets we've never been to before, killing no characters of any importance.'' And with TFA having more humour aswell it sorta knocked the stakes down. When the characters don't seem particularly worried I guess I won't be either.

Compare this to Rogue One with a far less powerful superweapon.

 

[DiFabio]

Khev's idea of keeping the Starkiller around for three films actually makes sense and would have been more effective.

When did we first find out about that crap anyway. The film poster? I remember groaning about another Death Star but can't remember when.

 

[Khev]

Yeah even Han was all "what a stupid threat. If I make my landing approach at lightspeed I can be back in time for dinner."

Saw Gerrera's pet squid was scarier than Starkiller Base.

 

[a-dev]

The Resistance should be asking themselves some serious questions about how they failed to notice that thing being built. After 2 Death Stars what excuse do they have at this point.

The First Order meanwhile...should probably be ****ing crippled after pumping so much resources into that one weapon that has now been destroyed in such short time. If they could build that then how had they not already retaken control of the entire galaxy in the first place?

 

[Prime Clone]

Death Star is tough to beat as far as weapons go.

I mean, how do you top it -- a galaxy-sized weapon? The Death System? Necro-Universe?

It's pretty much the best bad guys base ever.

 

[DiFabio]

 

[Wor-Gar]

That video sucks! Those aren't bases.

You must be so embarrassed.

 

[DiFabio]

You must be so embarrassed.

 

[cmiller99]

Starkiller Base follows the Darth Maul tradition of a good idea thrown out far earlier than it should have been.

 

[jye4ever]

TFA is a weird bird of a movie.

It's a movie that sucks but in a good way.

I'm not overtly offended by its suckage anymore.

 

[Khev]

I saw one review by a female youtuber who said that "TFA is like a Don Bluth animated film, not particularly exciting but it just has a charm that you enjoy watching." I think there's some validity to such a claim. I still love the movie but I can see why it would rub people the wrong way. On its own terms I think Abrams and company did a great job. Basically as a "TFA film" it's awesome, as a "RO film" it sucks.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I love that.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Yup, they should've failed their misson and Starkiller base survived to fight another day.

that would be counter-productive writing, Hans death would be even more meaningless.

what they should have done, is cross out starkiller all together, make it so the final mission is getting the map back from TFO, say Kylo has it on his star destroyer, in order to find Luke. You can still fit Han's death in there, the lightsaber duel etc. The stakes would be just as high in the audience eyes, while at the same time condensing the story and giving fans less of that "soft reboot" feeling.

I don't mind that they had a super death star, I know that bugs a lot of people, but I was just happy to get a good SW flick.

TFA is a weird bird of a movie.

It's a movie that sucks but in a good way.

I'm not overtly offended by its suckage anymore.

sometimes I wonder if you guys own the same TFA as I do.

 

[Bo Shrek]

Like Phantom Menace I think the dust is clearing with TFA and people are changing their initial positive experiences. Make no mistake TFA is a entertaining movie and gave us all we ask that was wrong (CGI) about the PT but in the end it leaves a “hollow / forgotten” feeling.

We are only one movie in to this trilogy so we can’t judge too heavily.

Everytime I watch TFA I keep thinking how much did the “good” government **** up to allow another “empire” and what appears a Larger “Empire” to return. Say what you want ..”The First Order” has better accountants!

 

[chewblacca]

I think the big draw of the Force Awakens is the feeling of nostalgia from seeing the original cast. If it had a great story and the cast from one of the prequel films it would not have made as much. Everyone wanted to know how Luke Han and Leia ended up. Which is not always a good thing. Sometimes defeating the Empire, redeeming my your father and dancing with Ewoks should be enough.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Like Phantom Menace I think the dust is clearing with TFA and people are changing their initial positive experiences.

Yes....

I think the big draw of the Force Awakens is the feeling of nostalgia from seeing the original cast.

YESSSS!!!!

 

[Python]

Nah, I was fine with Phasma not being a mindless drone.

What do you think she was out of interest? She was the most pointless character I've ever seen.

 

[crows]

Like Phantom Menace I think the dust is clearing with TFA and people are changing their initial positive experiences. Make no mistake TFA is a entertaining movie and gave us all we ask that was wrong (CGI) about the PT but in the end it leaves a “hollow / forgotten” feeling.

We are only one movie in to this trilogy so we can’t judge too heavily.

Everytime I watch TFA I keep thinking how much did the “good” government **** up to allow another “empire” and what appears a Larger “Empire” to return. Say what you want ..”The First Order” has better accountants!

Whats sad is that rogue one kinda showed me that after the next movies come force awakens might end up being the weakest of this franchise but the only one that has the 3 original actors.
I have a feeling they are only gonna get better from now on.
Its like they already found their groove so the other movies will be better at the expense of this movie

 

[Khev]

What do you think she was out of interest? She was the most pointless character I've ever seen.

She was just a commanding officer with some cool looking armor. The marketing ran with her image but I didn't have a problem with her in the movie.

 

[Khev]

Like Phantom Menace I think the dust is clearing with TFA and people are changing their initial positive experiences.

That "clearing dust" has a name and it's Rogue One.

Seriously, that's why just this month so many people are noticing greater and great weaknesses in the TFA narrative. It's not because it's a bad movie, it's because it has been so substantially outshined by RO.