Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Uhhhh... Do you not understand what "take with a grain of salt" means? ... so yeah, you told us something that still contradicts everything else in the SW canon.
Lol but it doesnt contradict it, Luke is the balance bringer
I told ya that someone would say I told ya.
Told ya that you'd say I told ya

Sent from the Cockpit of the Millenium Falcon
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Lol but it doesnt contradict it, Luke is the balance bringer

Okay I'll buy it once you can tell me how/when Luke destroyed the Jedi and the Sith.

Ready. Set. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!

:tap
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Anakin brought balance to the force. Even in the OT. But his son was instrumental in his actions.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Anakin brought balance to the force. Even in the OT. But his son was instrumental in his actions.

True. But in the same way that Palpatine was also instrumental on the opposite side of the spectrum.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Okay I'll buy it once you can tell me how/when Luke destroyed the Jedi and the Sith.

Ready. Set. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!

:tap
Well Anakin was prophesized to bring balance to the Force but Yoda comments as to whether they've interpreted it wrong. In Clone Wars (which you don't accept but is official so you sorta have to) they show that Anakin is truly the balance to the force but he tips the scales the wrong way (for the Sith). I think that by him having Luke and with everything Luke goes through he retips the scale back. Because killing all the Jedi and ruling with an evil hand doesn't exactly sound like a balance.

Sent from the Cockpit of the Millenium Falcon
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Yes, but the Jedi had lost their way, for centuries we are told they had become blind, arrogant. Anakin turning to the dark side and obliterating them before then destroying the last Sith cleared things up, he brought balance to the force by fixing things in the most unexpected and extreme way.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Well Anakin was prophesized to bring balance to the Force but Yoda comments as to whether they've interpreted it wrong. In Clone Wars (which you don't accept but is official so you sorta have to) they show that Anakin is truly the balance to the force but he tips the scales the wrong way (for the Sith). I think that by him having Luke and with everything Luke goes through he retips the scale back. Because killing all the Jedi and ruling with an evil hand doesn't exactly sound like a balance.

Sent from the Cockpit of the Millenium Falcon

You still aren't understanding. Bringing balance meant destroying the Sith and the Jedi. Yoda was right in a way, the prophecy was misread because they assumed it meant the Sith order would be destroyed and the Jedi order would live happily ever after. Wrong.

Warning: GEEK MOMENT. The Jedi at the time of the PT were not followers of the "Living Force". They were bending the force to their own will rather than being true followers. (A fact which Palpatine used to seduce Anakin to the Dark Side) This was what set Quigon apart from the Jedi council. Remember "We cannot fight a war for you" vs "Let's become Generals and fight a war" are two very differing philosophies which underscored a big problem in the Jedi Order which Quigin acknowledged and Anakin.. erm... remedied. :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Warning: GEEK MOMENT. The Jedi at the time of the PT were not followers of the "Living Force". They were bending the force to their own will rather than being true followers. (A fact which Palpatine used to seduce Anakin to the Dark Side) This was what set Quigon apart from the Jedi council. Remember "We cannot fight a war for you" vs "Let's become Generals and fight a war" are two very differing philosophies which underscored a big problem in the Jedi Order which Quigin acknowledged and Anakin.. erm... remedied. :lol

 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Whenever questions such as, "Who restored balance to the Force?" arise, I've always found it preferable, commendable even, to consult our elders. Ben, do you have anything to say?

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Very well, then. Carry on.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

(which you don't accept but is official so you sorta have to)

Sent from the Cockpit of the Millenium Falcon

:lol :lol

Anakin.. erm... remedied. :lol

:lol

Whenever questions such as, "Who restored balance to the Force?" arise, I've always found it preferable, commendable even, to consult our elders. Ben, do you have anything to say?

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Very well, then. Carry on.

:lol
 
Qui-Gon stated "we cannot fight a war for you"...
Yet the Jedi became embroiled a galactic war, with the eventual possibility of temporally running the senate if they had killed Palpatine.

Anakin basically eliminated the Dark Side and the Light Side, The Force got a clean slate to start over.
Luke became the face of the new Order. Unless some craziness happens to him in SW7.
Slightly fixed and :exactly:

V and VI clearly showed that Luke found his own way and gone beyond good and evil.
Peace and neutrality is the natural order.

Not always "Hero" = "Lawful Good" :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Anakin brought balance to the Force albeit unknowingly.
He did have help from the manipulation of Sidious and later help with the love from his son.
I wouldnt be surprised if Luke is indeed turned in this one...force choking Gammy guards, trying to shoot jabba, attempting to kill Palpatine.none of that was in self defence, but more quick to anger.
I think the best part about the sequels is the unknown...
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

It's all in the OT though?

Obi-Wan pretty much says he was arrogant to think he could train Vader? And Vader ends up pretty much saving the universe, dark to light.
I don't think Lucas really changed that with the PT just added detail that there was a Jedi prophesy that it wold happen, but the Jedi are a bunch of psychics of course they would have a prophesy. :lol
 
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