Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2)

[ironwez20]

I was under the impression her WAS SAYING he was a janitor to hide the fact he was a stormtrooper......


If he actually was a janitor it has to be before he was a stormtrooper.....you guys saw the movie right? The entire first scenes shows FINN IS A STORMTROOPER.

We also hear Phasma say he's has been trouble before...

He didnt want any of them to know he was a soldier on the opposing side..



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I’m sorry but when he shut down the shield did t he specifically say he use to clean there? So yea he’s a janitor. Janitor then stormtrooper.... whatever the case he is or was a janitor

 

[Khev]

I remember hearing that Poe was originally supposed to die in TFA when the Tie Fighter crashes, Oscar Isaac requested that his character not die, KK and JJ agreed. So there's a reason Poe feels so unnecessary, he's not supposed to be there.

Denis Lawson (Wedge) was also asked by Abrams to return but he declined. So I'm guessing that originally Poe was just going to die with Wedge leading the attack on Starkiller Base.

 

[crows]

I’m sorry but when he shut down the shield did t he specifically say he use to clean there? So yea he’s a janitor.

 

[ironwez20]

I never saw it like that. Even now that you mentioned it, I still don't see it that way. I don't even think he was following Rey around. The only reason why he initially went with her was because she was a way for him to get away from the First Order. Finn was probably closer to Solo than Poe was in the sense that he was the guy who was initially in it for selfish reasons, but eventually turned around and did something selfless to help a friend. In fact, Finn's and Rey's friendship is no less believable than Luke's and Han's were at the end of ANH.



Probably because his last conscious moment before this was spent defending Rey against a sobbing, plasma-sword (I will never see lightsabers as laser swords lol) wielding, man-baby. If I were Finn I'd probably be asking the same question when I wake up.

I've had some issues with TFA, but the Rey/Finn friendship wasn't one of them.

Nah son . The Finn and rey relationship isn’t like han solo and luke. Luke wasn’t trusting of Han and thought he was to stuck up. He earned luke’s Respect when he came to help destroy the Death Star. They had a whole lot of back and forth

Finn just meets rey and kinda trust her right off the bat. She literally saw him as a thief and moments later he tells her she saw him for who he was. It’s pathetic. Like a guy being overly nice to a girl to get laid .

 

[screamingmetal]

Denis Lawson (Wedge) was also asked by Abrams to return but he declined. So I'm guessing that originally Poe was just going to die with Wedge leading the attack on Starkiller Base.

That would've been a really cool reveal! Too bad Lawson didn't want to do it, I would've had a grin on my face like the one I had seeing Red Skull for the second time.

 

[TaliBane]

I was under the impression her WAS SAYING he was a janitor to hide the fact he was a stormtrooper......


If he actually was a janitor it has to be before he was a stormtrooper.....you guys saw the movie right? The entire first scenes shows FINN IS A STORMTROOPER.

We also hear Phasma say he's has been trouble before...

He didnt want any of them to know he was a soldier on the opposing side..



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I actually would remove those capitals and add some quotations.

Finn as a stormtrooper is a bit like a prostitute on her first night and the first guy who picks her up convinces her not to do it and they fall in love, get married and live happily ever after.

Finn is the Pretty Woman of faceless cogs of the Empire.

 

[e30ernest]

Nah son . The Finn and rey relationship isn’t like han solo and luke. Luke wasn’t trusting of Han and thought he was to stuck up. He earned luke’s Respect when he came to help destroy the Death Star. They had a whole lot of back and forth

Rey didn't trust Finn either at the start. She only gave him the benefit of doubt because of BB8. Finn didn't need to trust Rey. They were being shot at and she had a way out, so he basically had no choice but to go with her. Even while he was with her, all he cared about was getting away so Rey was just a means to an end (escape/freedom) in the same way Luke was a means to an end for Han (money/freedom).

Like a guy being overly nice to a girl to get laid .

Again I don't see that. I see him as being nice because he wanted to use her to get away. Between the two of them, she was the only one who knew how to fly a ship.

 

[ironwez20]

Rey didn't trust Finn either at the start. She only gave him the benefit of doubt because of BB8. Finn didn't need to trust Rey. They were being shot at and she had a way out, so he basically had no choice but to go with her. Even while he was with her, all he cared about was getting away so Rey was just a means to an end (escape/freedom) in the same way Luke was a means to an end for Han (money/freedom).



Again I don't see that. I see him as being nice because he wanted to use her to get away. Between the two of them, she was the only one who knew how to fly a ship.

Lol nooooooo. Finn put his self at risk to save rey . He wanted to get away but he changed his tune when he saw rey was being captured. Han and Luke are completely different. One is basically using the other to get paid and juggling between right and wrong.

Rey didn’t trust fin for like a second. Han and Luke’s trust was earned when they defeated the Death Star. Luke could of did without Han but Finn relied on rey for almost everything and acted like he owed her a life debt . Sorry but I see no similarities between Han and Luke and rey and Finn.

The trust between the first was shaky and felt like two opposite personalities contrasting. The other is a needy guy chasing after some *** since it’s the first girl he’s ever seen. In no way is rey and Finn relationship Ricky or they need something. Finn was already free . Poe did that. His whole attitude towards her was like a puppy who can’t be a ya from his master.

 

[e30ernest]

Lol nooooooo. Finn put his self at risk to save rey . He wanted to get away but he changed his tune when he saw rey was being captured. Han and Luke are completely different. One is basically using the other to get paid and juggling between right and wrong.

Rey didn’t trust fin for like a second. Han and Luke’s trust was earned when they defeated the Death Star. Luke could of did without Han but Finn relied on rey for almost everything and acted like he owed her a life debt . Sorry but I see no similarities between Han and Luke and rey and Finn.

My recollection of Han was that for almost the entire ANH movie, all he was after was the money. His change of heart came at the very last moment (Death Star fight and trench run).

It's pretty similar to how Finn and Rey played out (one of the many similarities of TFA with ANH) where Finn was in it for his own benefit (escape) and only had a change of heart (selflessness) at the final act (Star Killer Base rescue/fight).

For both movies, trust was only really earned at the final act.

I'm not saying either relationship was better by the way, just that they are under similar circumstances.

Finn was already free . Poe did that. His whole attitude towards her was like a puppy who can’t be a ya from his master.

No Finn wasn't free. He and Poe crash-landed on the planet the First Order ship was orbiting. The First Order had troops on the ground after him. He wasn't free. He was cornered. Rey was his only ticket out of the planet.

 

[Otomofan]

Poe was only supposed to be in the first 15 minutes of the movie and then die in the crash. It's well documented. Everyone knows that.

Would have been no big loss to the story if he had. Notice they don't even bother to come up with an even remotely plausible explanation for how he survived.

But his jacket did.

 

[ironwez20]

My recollection of Han was that for almost the entire ANH movie, all he was after was the money. His change of heart came at the very last moment (Death Star fight and trench run).

It's pretty similar to how Finn and Rey played out (one of the many similarities of TFA with ANH) where Finn was in it for his own benefit (escape) and only had a change of heart (selflessness) at the final act (Star Killer Base rescue/fight).

For both movies, trust was only really earned at the final act.

I'm not saying either relationship was better by the way, just that they are under similar circumstances.



No Finn wasn't free. He and Poe crash-landed on the planet the First Order ship was orbiting. The First Order had troops on the ground after him. He wasn't free. He was cornered. Rey was his only ticket out of the planet.

Nah Finn trusted rey early on. There is no sense of Finn not trusting rey in the movie. Finn wanted to escape but with rey aswell. As soon as rey was in danger he went into action.

Also Finn could of got off that planet without rey. He for some dumb reason kept holding her hand

 

[e30ernest]

Also Finn could of got off that planet without rey. He for some dumb reason kept holding her hand

How? It was established early on that he did not know how to fly a ship.

 

[ironwez20]

How? It was established early on that he did not know how to fly a ship.

He’s a smart guy. I’m sure he’d figure something out.

 

[Python]

I was under the impression her WAS SAYING he was a janitor to hide the fact he was a stormtrooper......

He's mentioned it at least twice now, despite his passed as a Stormtrooper being common knowledge. He stated in TLJ that he conveniently used to clean the room they were trying to infiltrate. Come to think of it, between Snoke's Huge ship (a 60k long ship with a crew of 2.2 million + likely has a lot of toilets ) and the literal planet sized Starkiller base, Finn must have had a lot of time to clean stuff up. Troopers have secondary roles though, just like many real life service men and women..

 

[DarkChocobi]

The Lucasfilm Story Group is largely female, but for three Instagram husbands who collaborated on snapping this photo

 

[crows]

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The Lucasfilm Story Group is largely female, but for three Instagram husbands who collaborated on snapping this photo

same thing happened to the tv show dexter,
last couple of seasons' writers
They wrote pne of the best final seasons ever

 

[DarkChocobi]

same thing happened to the tv show dexter,
last couple of seasons' writers
They wrote pne of the best final seasons ever

this is a very interesting article, you should read it...it doese help clear some of my doubts for a very long time that I have been questioned why Disney top management merely doing nothing to prevent atrocites to this franchise
https://www.fakingstarwars.net/2018/03/20/kathleen-kennedy-refuses-fire/

 

[e30ernest]

He’s a smart guy. I’m sure he’d figure something out.

Yeah I guess so.... When you're under fire, maybe it gets easier to learn to fly a spaceship in the few seconds you have before being vaporized.

/s

 

[crows]

this is a very interesting article, you should read it...it doese help clear some of my doubts for a very long time that I have been questioned why Disney top management merely doing nothing to prevent atrocites to this franchise
https://www.fakingstarwars.net/2018/03/20/kathleen-kennedy-refuses-fire/

 

[ironwez20]

Yeah I guess so.... When you're under fire, maybe it gets easier to learn to fly a spaceship in the few seconds you have before being vaporized.

/s

Lol but yea idk maybe they are similar in ways but I just thought the execution was bad