Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Wor-Gar]

I would argue that grey can be as interesting a plot device, perhaps more so than the "black and white" templete.

I think its the classic struggle. How lazy is writing, especially from an adult view, of a character like Palpatine.... He had one singular motivation, power? I mean why? What was his whole deal? Simple revenge? Did he have sand kicked on his face by a Jedi as a kid?

Luke's story was more interesting because he was struggling with his his feeling of personal revenge against Vader for killing Ben and later how to reconcile that with the fact he was his father. If Luke had been a simple "black and white" character , he would have marched right up to his father and put a light saber through him without remorse or issue.

So I hope we see some grey in the these characters. Kylo having regret or serious mental meltdown for what he did, Rey having doubt about Luke and the Rebellion, Luke showing weakness and regret for what following Yoda and Ben did to his life.......

Personally, PT shows that the Jedi were total dicks and did whatever they wanted to advance their own agenda ....regardless of the casualties to the pawns they picked and brainwashed......

The Jedi were as bad as the Sith....
Bring it....



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You say gray would be an interesting plot device but then express examples using the fight between black and white (i.e. Luke's struggle). It's not gray that's interesting -- its the dark and light struggle; the struggle between the desire for revenge versus moral justice for example. Being gray is resolution I believe.

It's an interesting yet sad declaration of the state of the world when a generation grows up perceiving the Jedi as bad.

Of course, if that's what you believe, then what does gray have to do with anything?

 

[karamazov80]

Of course, if that's what you believe, then what does gray have to do with anything?

What's gray, but a second-hand emotion?

 

[Wor-Gar]

What does gray have to do with it? Oooo-ooo-ooo

 

[DiFabio]

You say gray would be an interesting plot device but then express examples using the fight between black and white (i.e. Luke's struggle). It's not gray that's interesting -- its the dark and light struggle; the struggle between the desire for revenge versus moral justice for example. Being gray is resolution I believe.

It's an interesting yet sad declaration of the state of the world when a generation grows up perceiving the Jedi as bad.

Of course, if that's what you believe, then what does gray have to do with anything?

What's gray, but a second-hand emotion?

What does gray have to do with it? Oooo-ooo-ooo

 

[Wor-Gar]

This thread will be comedy gold a year from now. It needs to be put in the Smithsonian.

 

[karamazov80]

We still haven't seen the re-dubbed scene from Downfall, where Hitler realizes that this film will have "gray jedi." Or the Eastern European interview where the guy laughs hysterically at starting the rumor of these Jedi that everyone now believes.

 

[jye4ever]

That laughing spaniard dude is my favorite.

His spiderman reboot one was hilarious.

Even the WB one:

"12 movies of exposition in one!" then crazy laughter

lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

Someone needs to make that laughing guy regarding the grays.

 

[karamazov80]

That laughing spaniard dude is my favorite.

His spiderman reboot one was hilarious.

Where he's Kevin Feige Reboot!

 

[jye4ever]

Someone needs to make that laughing guy regarding the grays.

OMG yes it would be so perfect...

Oh man the laughing guy would be you laughing at Snikt lol

Khev would be the interviewer lol

Where he's Kevin Feige Reboot!

Reboot.....lofol

 

[twistedfreak]

The laughing guy as in Chris Evans? The tornado gif with him with grays around him could be rather epic.

 

[Wor-Gar]

No.... this guy:

 

[jye4ever]

The famous Hitler one is also a classic but that laugh just wins it for me it's so infectious.

 

[twistedfreak]

Oh that guy. Only seen him once in a video to do with the wall building by Trump. Pretty funny.

 

[Khev]

We still haven't seen the re-dubbed scene from Downfall, where Hitler realizes that this film will have "gray jedi."

"Everyone who loves Deadpool, Gremlins 2, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure please leave the room..."

Or the Eastern European interview where the guy laughs hysterically at starting the rumor of these Jedi that everyone now believes.

I can't wait.

 

[Khev]

OMG yes it would be so perfect...

Oh man the laughing guy would be you laughing at Snikt lol

Khev would be the interviewer lol

 

[crows]

Snikt as farva HAHAHAHA

 

[xipotec]

You say gray would be an interesting plot device but then express examples using the fight between black and white (i.e. Luke's struggle). It's not gray that's interesting -- its the dark and light struggle; the struggle between the desire for revenge versus moral justice for example. Being gray is resolution I believe.

It's an interesting yet sad declaration of the state of the world when a generation grows up perceiving the Jedi as bad.

Of course, if that's what you believe, then what does gray have to do with anything?

I do not look at Luke as a totally "Good" character......he was sorta in the middle.....


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[Wor-Gar]

I do not look at Luke as a totally "Good" character......he was sorta in the middle.....

The middle of what? What were his dark traits?

 

[Sachiel]