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*thinking out loud* Is that what that scene's suppose to be...
*thinking out loud* Is that what that scene's suppose to be...
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Loved him tossing it away like that.
Where are these screenshots from? I wanna see the modified Slave-1.
Those sea cows looked a lot like Watto.
While I'm here. Do you think Leia's cane was a lightsaber staff? That'd be pretty awesome.
Loved him tossing it away like that.
Where are these screenshots from? I wanna see the modified Slave-1.
Those sea cows looked a lot like Watto.
While I'm here. Do you think Leia's cane was a lightsaber staff? That'd be pretty awesome.
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I'm capturing them.
Where was Slave-1 supposed to be?
I'm capturing them.
Where was Slave-1 supposed to be?
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There's quite a few Easter eggs in the film, so I wouldn't have been surperised!
Now, was that blue or green milk?
Apparently, blue milk is Bantha milk according to the 2014 Rebellion Begins book, which is from the Rebels series and, therefore, supposedly current canon.
There's quite a few Easter eggs in the film, so I wouldn't have been surperised!
Now, was that blue or green milk?
Apparently, blue milk is Bantha milk according to the 2014 Rebellion Begins book, which is from the Rebels series and, therefore, supposedly current canon.
Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
So, does anyone know what the truth is about the story that Mark Hamill wasn't told that Luke dies in the end? Word going around is that Mark thought, or was led to believe, that Luke just collapsed from exhaustion at the end, that the death wasn't in the script, and that he only found out that the character dies when he saw the final, finished film at the première and witnessed Luke fade away on screen. Allegedly, that's why he looked so out of it during the post première press stuff, because he was still in shock (and likely none too pleased) and genuinely was kept in the dark/lied to about Luke's ultimate fate.
Because if any of that is even remotely true, then that is severely messed up.
Mark isn't exactly shy about making his feelings known, so if there is even a sliver of truth to it I'm sure we'll find out, but I really hope that's not the case, even though it wouldn't surprise me, given the way the Mouse House operates.
So, does anyone know what the truth is about the story that Mark Hamill wasn't told that Luke dies in the end? Word going around is that Mark thought, or was led to believe, that Luke just collapsed from exhaustion at the end, that the death wasn't in the script, and that he only found out that the character dies when he saw the final, finished film at the première and witnessed Luke fade away on screen. Allegedly, that's why he looked so out of it during the post première press stuff, because he was still in shock (and likely none too pleased) and genuinely was kept in the dark/lied to about Luke's ultimate fate.
Because if any of that is even remotely true, then that is severely messed up.
Mark isn't exactly shy about making his feelings known, so if there is even a sliver of truth to it I'm sure we'll find out, but I really hope that's not the case, even though it wouldn't surprise me, given the way the Mouse House operates.
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Not heard that one. But he has said a lot of disparaging things about the films.
In other news, when Luke's lonely island turned into a scene from Fraggle Rock:
The only thing they could've added to TLJ to make it better would've been a Hanna-Barbera laughter track. Especially when Luke tossed his saber off, or any time a Porg appeared.
Not heard that one. But he has said a lot of disparaging things about the films.
In other news, when Luke's lonely island turned into a scene from Fraggle Rock:
The only thing they could've added to TLJ to make it better would've been a Hanna-Barbera laughter track. Especially when Luke tossed his saber off, or any time a Porg appeared.
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Pointless OR obvious. Luke was pointless Han was obvious.
The effort to try was valid but it was obvious that it was going to go bad.
Pointless OR obvious. Luke was pointless Han was obvious.
The effort to try was valid but it was obvious that it was going to go bad.
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Am I going to have to sit through a whole lotta crap to see that ship?
You know Total recall totally lied about what happens in vacuum. I was fine with what happened with Leia, though there were those thoughts on how they'd play it after what happened in real life. It'd kinda add a weird perspective to whatever they chose to do.
Had ESB running today, I think TLJ parallels ESB as much as TFA did episode IV.
Am I going to have to sit through a whole lotta crap to see that ship?
You know Total recall totally lied about what happens in vacuum. I was fine with what happened with Leia, though there were those thoughts on how they'd play it after what happened in real life. It'd kinda add a weird perspective to whatever they chose to do.
Had ESB running today, I think TLJ parallels ESB as much as TFA did episode IV.
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Probably the most space balls thing to ever happen in SW
Probably the most space balls thing to ever happen in SW
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I think I felt a bit robbed coming out of this movie. It left me with a clearer sense (hinted at in TFA, revealed in TLJ) that the better story - of Han and Leia's child manifesting force powers and Luke agreeing to take him/her on, only for things to go wrong with a Sith master in play - was what the ST should have been about.
Rey, Finn and Poe - like Ridley, Boyega and Isaac - are all fine. Kylo and Driver - the character's a little weak, but Driver's talent elevates it greatly. But they, and the bigger story around them, just doesn't conjure up much mythic power or tragedy to me. So when you open the door on Luke Skywalker, the beating heart of the mythic classic trilogy, and you treat him in the way this movie does - a tinge of resentment sets in. You get why Hamill felt the way he did about this movie.
For all the criticism of TFA being too similar to ANH and the OT in general, I was blown away by the "borrowing" TLJ did. I mean yeah, you have a Hoth-esque battle, but the clearest: Rey's face-off with Snoke vs Luke's face-off with the Emperor, which plays out with the EXACT same location, context, actions, dialog and even outcome - from the hero's willing surrender to the Emperor-type being killed by his apprentice. Even tiny bits like Snoke showing Rey the hopeless Rebel ships being decimated - precisely what the Emperor does.
And Leia's "Mary Poppins" moment... brings up a host of questions about her character. Like why is her son, father and brother SO-SO-SO powerful with the force, but she's forever parked in front of a view screen without a hint of force abilities? I get that Carrie's face isn't as expressive as it was, but in a movie that's so much about girls being in the action, why does she not have more sustained powers than doing a Flying Nun in zero-g?
Initial thoughts on smaller stuff:
The blue milk udder was obviously super-bizarre but that cartoon fish over Luke's shoulders got an even bigger laugh in the theater I was in.
Luke is "hiding out" (or whatever he's doing)... on THE force island/planet where the force-tree, Force cleaners (seal/nuns) and Jedi books are? If it's the place where the force is somehow maintained, then wouldn't Kylo/Snoke know where that island is, and that Luke would be there? From TFA, I thought it was just a random island.
What the heck was that Rey enters the "only what you take with you" cave scene - like this huge mirror/echo chamber? Just didn't get what that was all about. Luke's experience in the Dagobah cave was surreal too, but the meaning was really clear.
The slow motion chase - like the Rebel and FO ships have the exact same maximum speed? Wouldn't the FO ships slowly overtake the rebel ship, or the rebel ship slowly pull away?
Luke's death - he seems to fully recover from his force projection, then apparently wills his own death. Like it's not the over-exertion of energy exactly, more a conscious choice to just die.
Laura Dern's hair. The rebels are in desperate straits, down to their last ship, but she's had time to have her hair recently dyed purple and to dress as if she's headed to the Met Gala.
Yoda... odd in so many ways - concept and execution.
And um... did Luke dye his beard for his force projection self? He looked a bit like the host of "The Actor's Studio" with that fake jet black beard.
I think I felt a bit robbed coming out of this movie. It left me with a clearer sense (hinted at in TFA, revealed in TLJ) that the better story - of Han and Leia's child manifesting force powers and Luke agreeing to take him/her on, only for things to go wrong with a Sith master in play - was what the ST should have been about.
Rey, Finn and Poe - like Ridley, Boyega and Isaac - are all fine. Kylo and Driver - the character's a little weak, but Driver's talent elevates it greatly. But they, and the bigger story around them, just doesn't conjure up much mythic power or tragedy to me. So when you open the door on Luke Skywalker, the beating heart of the mythic classic trilogy, and you treat him in the way this movie does - a tinge of resentment sets in. You get why Hamill felt the way he did about this movie.
For all the criticism of TFA being too similar to ANH and the OT in general, I was blown away by the "borrowing" TLJ did. I mean yeah, you have a Hoth-esque battle, but the clearest: Rey's face-off with Snoke vs Luke's face-off with the Emperor, which plays out with the EXACT same location, context, actions, dialog and even outcome - from the hero's willing surrender to the Emperor-type being killed by his apprentice. Even tiny bits like Snoke showing Rey the hopeless Rebel ships being decimated - precisely what the Emperor does.
And Leia's "Mary Poppins" moment... brings up a host of questions about her character. Like why is her son, father and brother SO-SO-SO powerful with the force, but she's forever parked in front of a view screen without a hint of force abilities? I get that Carrie's face isn't as expressive as it was, but in a movie that's so much about girls being in the action, why does she not have more sustained powers than doing a Flying Nun in zero-g?
Initial thoughts on smaller stuff:
The blue milk udder was obviously super-bizarre but that cartoon fish over Luke's shoulders got an even bigger laugh in the theater I was in.
Luke is "hiding out" (or whatever he's doing)... on THE force island/planet where the force-tree, Force cleaners (seal/nuns) and Jedi books are? If it's the place where the force is somehow maintained, then wouldn't Kylo/Snoke know where that island is, and that Luke would be there? From TFA, I thought it was just a random island.
What the heck was that Rey enters the "only what you take with you" cave scene - like this huge mirror/echo chamber? Just didn't get what that was all about. Luke's experience in the Dagobah cave was surreal too, but the meaning was really clear.
The slow motion chase - like the Rebel and FO ships have the exact same maximum speed? Wouldn't the FO ships slowly overtake the rebel ship, or the rebel ship slowly pull away?
Luke's death - he seems to fully recover from his force projection, then apparently wills his own death. Like it's not the over-exertion of energy exactly, more a conscious choice to just die.
Laura Dern's hair. The rebels are in desperate straits, down to their last ship, but she's had time to have her hair recently dyed purple and to dress as if she's headed to the Met Gala.
Yoda... odd in so many ways - concept and execution.
And um... did Luke dye his beard for his force projection self? He looked a bit like the host of "The Actor's Studio" with that fake jet black beard.
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I live in Canada near a major university. I haven't spoken to a single person between the age of 20 and 50 who actually liked The Last Jedi. Whether I've spoken to university students, grocery clerks, lawyers and law clerks... contempt for the film seems to transcend age and social class. No one likes it. No one has said to me, "I thought it was alright...". Everyone hated it.
When asking people why they hated it, the same grievances arise over, and over again:
1) It's boring. The movie was too long, trivial and anti-climactic.
2) Many plot holes. The internal logic of the film was deeply flawed.
3) It broke the logic of the franchise, making past films problematic.
4) It was too campy as a Star Wars film, breaking the suspension of disbelief.
5) Aesthetically, it was unappealing.
Personally, I thought aesthetically it looked much better than the prequel trilogy, which I disliked. When making a Star Wars film, I prefer adherence to the original designs by Ralph McQuarrie. Rogue One accomplished this. Episodes 7 and 8 were far better than episodes 1 & 2, in terms of set design (with the exception of the puzzling Las Vegas scene). However, the character design has been underwhelming. When the only significant contribution to the franchise has been a robotic soccer ball, someone needs to be replaced in the fx department.
Worse, the dialogue in The Last Jedi was unforgivable. Language within the Star Wars universe is verbose, technical and devoid of modern slang or allusions to our pop culture... although I'm surprised Luke didn't cry out "Bazinga!" while "brushing off" Kylo's attack at the end of the film.
I live in Canada near a major university. I haven't spoken to a single person between the age of 20 and 50 who actually liked The Last Jedi. Whether I've spoken to university students, grocery clerks, lawyers and law clerks... contempt for the film seems to transcend age and social class. No one likes it. No one has said to me, "I thought it was alright...". Everyone hated it.
When asking people why they hated it, the same grievances arise over, and over again:
1) It's boring. The movie was too long, trivial and anti-climactic.
2) Many plot holes. The internal logic of the film was deeply flawed.
3) It broke the logic of the franchise, making past films problematic.
4) It was too campy as a Star Wars film, breaking the suspension of disbelief.
5) Aesthetically, it was unappealing.
Personally, I thought aesthetically it looked much better than the prequel trilogy, which I disliked. When making a Star Wars film, I prefer adherence to the original designs by Ralph McQuarrie. Rogue One accomplished this. Episodes 7 and 8 were far better than episodes 1 & 2, in terms of set design (with the exception of the puzzling Las Vegas scene). However, the character design has been underwhelming. When the only significant contribution to the franchise has been a robotic soccer ball, someone needs to be replaced in the fx department.
Worse, the dialogue in The Last Jedi was unforgivable. Language within the Star Wars universe is verbose, technical and devoid of modern slang or allusions to our pop culture... although I'm surprised Luke didn't cry out "Bazinga!" while "brushing off" Kylo's attack at the end of the film.
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