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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)
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Saw this last night. I thought it was ok, I'm not a big star wars fan so I'm not that invested with what they do with the original cast but man, you can put me on the camp that feels like they missed the mark with Luke. From him throwing the light saber and his last 'fight' I was shocked and felt sad for the people waiting two years for those moments just to get that.
I don't have the desire to want to see this again like I did with the force awakens, that's still my favorite SW movie but I felt this was a major step down from that.
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I don't have the desire to want to see this again like I did with the force awakens, that's still my favorite SW movie but I felt this was a major step down from that.
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jye4ever
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They should just keep her corpse in full view at all times.
Wait it just hit me that Snikt DID HAVE his vampire moment!
Did you see Leia all Bela Lugosi like on Crait. She looked over her collar like that Bela Lugosi double did on Plan 9 from Outer Space.
So ok for the guys to save to universe and have crazy powers , but not the gals...
Got it.
You are probably on to something however....the next film we would have seen Leia pass the torch to Poe and would have focused on her exiting the scene.
Really people still refuse to accept these were exit/transition films. They were never about the OT characters.
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The movie even ended on a male and not a female.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
After thinking on it a bit- I think the movie failed with fans due to the intent the director had while writing it. To capture the old Star Wars feeling in TFA JJ basically made a soft remake of ANH. Whereas in TLJ it seemed the only goal was the other extreme and to subvert expectations at the expense of telling a good story.
It seemed every scene was - 'think you can guess what's going to happen, what he/ she is going to do? Guess again!' From snokes demise (and no backstory) to Rey's parentage to Luke throwing away the lightsaber and contemplating killing a child in their sleep etc etc it was all meant to surprise by going against everything that the fans had been guessing.
Ultimately it basically explained nothing though - like why is Rey so strong in the force, and able to take on so much with barely any training, whereas kylo was trained by 2 powerful masters. Where was Snoke this whole time (this is only important as he's shown to be more powerful than the emporer - if he hadn't been more powerful it wouldn't matter who he is, we could believe someone just picked up the pieces of the empire)
Even the title for the first time is a misnomer in SW history. In attack of the clones - that's literally what happend. In a new hope or empire strikes back - ditto. For all of the original 6 titles. However Luke clearly says 'I will not be the last jedi' and it flashes over to Rey and they show broom kid at the end, even making the title a subversion.
Rian went so far in one direction just so he could one up the audience all the way through, and he succeeded, but the backlash is making it clear the audience doesn't always appreciate that.
After thinking on it a bit- I think the movie failed with fans due to the intent the director had while writing it. To capture the old Star Wars feeling in TFA JJ basically made a soft remake of ANH. Whereas in TLJ it seemed the only goal was the other extreme and to subvert expectations at the expense of telling a good story.
It seemed every scene was - 'think you can guess what's going to happen, what he/ she is going to do? Guess again!' From snokes demise (and no backstory) to Rey's parentage to Luke throwing away the lightsaber and contemplating killing a child in their sleep etc etc it was all meant to surprise by going against everything that the fans had been guessing.
Ultimately it basically explained nothing though - like why is Rey so strong in the force, and able to take on so much with barely any training, whereas kylo was trained by 2 powerful masters. Where was Snoke this whole time (this is only important as he's shown to be more powerful than the emporer - if he hadn't been more powerful it wouldn't matter who he is, we could believe someone just picked up the pieces of the empire)
Even the title for the first time is a misnomer in SW history. In attack of the clones - that's literally what happend. In a new hope or empire strikes back - ditto. For all of the original 6 titles. However Luke clearly says 'I will not be the last jedi' and it flashes over to Rey and they show broom kid at the end, even making the title a subversion.
Rian went so far in one direction just so he could one up the audience all the way through, and he succeeded, but the backlash is making it clear the audience doesn't always appreciate that.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
So it’s wrong to make the films about hope now is it?
What a bunch of double speak from clearly brainwashed folks....
The first damn film in the trilogy is called A NEW HOPE.
The most famous line X, uttered by a female who was way ahead of the powerful women cause was “your my only hope!”
I am started to doubt some of you actually saw OT .
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So it’s wrong to make the films about hope now is it?
What a bunch of double speak from clearly brainwashed folks....
The first damn film in the trilogy is called A NEW HOPE.
The most famous line X, uttered by a female who was way ahead of the powerful women cause was “your my only hope!”
I am started to doubt some of you actually saw OT .
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
As an old school SW super fan...
Agreed!
Agreed too!
As an old school SW super fan...
Agreed!
Agreed too!
jye4ever
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JL low critics score and high fan score yet box office disaster.
TLJ high critic score and 50/50 fan score yet box office record breaker
I’m confused my head hurts someone smarter than me please make sense of that.
TLJ high critic score and 50/50 fan score yet box office record breaker
I’m confused my head hurts someone smarter than me please make sense of that.
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Isn't that what Rey is for? Why are you making it about gender?
Flying Leia was stupid, this is coming from someone that loves the spunky OT Leia. They didn't need to give her super powers in the 70s and 80s to make her a powerful character.
She is a Jedi though. Just not one that ever used her powers so obviously before. Getting blown out into space would seem like a good time to do it.
I thought it was fine to give her a moment like that. An acceptable upgrade from just seeing her reacting to someone or an event across the galaxy but not so far as seeing her jumping around with a lightsaber, which, surely we can concede, would have had a lot more faces buried in palms.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
Perhaps I'm missing something, but doesn't Luke saying that indeed give truth to the title? Especially with it then summarily flashing over to Rey and this proverbial "broom kid" I've read about after Luke saying that? Luke seems to be essentially saying that the Jedi (plural) isn't dying with him, because there is now another (Rey). Perhaps showing this broom kid is meant to be a harbinger that Episode IX will indeed take place some years into the future from TLJ, and that Rey will be the Jedi Master and this broom kid her padawan.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but doesn't Luke saying that indeed give truth to the title? Especially with it then summarily flashing over to Rey and this proverbial "broom kid" I've read about after Luke saying that? Luke seems to be essentially saying that the Jedi (plural) isn't dying with him, because there is now another (Rey). Perhaps showing this broom kid is meant to be a harbinger that Episode IX will indeed take place some years into the future from TLJ, and that Rey will be the Jedi Master and this broom kid her padawan.
dan350zr
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Didn't hurt opening weekend, worldwide it's made over $450 million... Besides that, your statement makes no sense, the longer the movie is at the theater the less people will see (happens with all movies) so they need less theaters to show it in.
Isn't that what Rey is for? Why are you making it about gender?
Flying Leia was stupid, this is coming from someone that loves the spunky OT Leia. They didn't need to give her super powers in the 70s and 80s to make her a powerful character.
Leia's powers didn't turn on until she had kids
jye4ever
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Star Wars is fantasy not science fiction. Magical powers and ***t, so yeah why not.
Yeah I agree Leia using her force powers in such a weird way was off putting. Just because it’s so unrealistic....not that any of the powers are realistsic, but that was the low point of the film for me.
Honestly , Leia should have been the one to light speed the cruiser into Snokes ship.
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Honestly , Leia should have been the one to light speed the cruiser into Snokes ship.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD
Not to disrespect or insult old people what I’m saying is the our heroes are older and not in the role they once had. Disney is retiring them with every movie. They have respect and explain it in the films. Remember when Finn calls Han a war hero? But Rey remembers him as a smuggler? Luke being a legend and Leia being a general but referred to as ‘royalty’ to the ‘older generation?’ Luke said it best to describe the movie in Johnson’s view, we can’t expect Luke to destroy the FO with a laser sword anymore. As much as we all wish it could be and may be done, his role as the savior is no more. His time is over and we need to accept that however difficult it may be. Disney is doing a good job keeping their roles in the galaxy alive but now they aren’t the same roles as we are use to. While I will show my son the OT and PT and ST, and will always favor the OT, I can’t be upset if he leans more towards the ST either. The great thing about SW is that it’s there to entertain and relate to everyone from all walks of life. After the Vietnam war, Lucas said he wanted to build the hopes of those who were lost and have lost. Star Wars is generational which is why it has stood the test of time. As long as they continue to cater to the generations, it will be relevant.
Not to disrespect or insult old people what I’m saying is the our heroes are older and not in the role they once had. Disney is retiring them with every movie. They have respect and explain it in the films. Remember when Finn calls Han a war hero? But Rey remembers him as a smuggler? Luke being a legend and Leia being a general but referred to as ‘royalty’ to the ‘older generation?’ Luke said it best to describe the movie in Johnson’s view, we can’t expect Luke to destroy the FO with a laser sword anymore. As much as we all wish it could be and may be done, his role as the savior is no more. His time is over and we need to accept that however difficult it may be. Disney is doing a good job keeping their roles in the galaxy alive but now they aren’t the same roles as we are use to. While I will show my son the OT and PT and ST, and will always favor the OT, I can’t be upset if he leans more towards the ST either. The great thing about SW is that it’s there to entertain and relate to everyone from all walks of life. After the Vietnam war, Lucas said he wanted to build the hopes of those who were lost and have lost. Star Wars is generational which is why it has stood the test of time. As long as they continue to cater to the generations, it will be relevant.
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